David T-G wrote:
>
> *This* question has started coming up relatively recently, and before now
> it hasn't been a concern.
I thought I read about the whole "Problems with PGP mails from Outlook"
more often in the last months.
> Whoa -- when did we jump to traditional style from macros? These
> macros simply let you verify *one* sig, be it traditional or not, but
> usually not spend the time on doing so for all messages. Macros are
> no longer (in 1.3.x where x=>20 at least) necessary for traditional
> verification.
I meant the whole old-style handling, not this point in special.
The main thing which bothers me: I get very often old-style signed/
encrypted mails. Every time when I open such a mail I have to press
Esc-P per default, which is annoing in my eyes. I would like to have
this to be done automatically like in the new-style. The common answers
about this problem is "write a macro". Because a message-hook fails
(resp. failed the last time I tried it, there was an endless loop), I
have to write lots of macros (for every possible key I can enter this
mail). It would be so much easier for everyone if check-traditional-pgp
would become a variable ("set always-check-traditional-pgp=yes"), so
that every mail will be checked automatically on demand (instead of
handling 50% of all mail accesses via macros and doing some terrible
workarounds for the other 50%).
(The other problems when *writing* old-style PGP mails probably do not
exist anymore. I didn't had the time to test the patches announce here
in the last weeks.)
> All you have to do is hit esc-P and it's all there, AIUI, so either build
> esc-P into your macro, folder-hook an esc-P on all messages when you
> enter,
Concerning the single Esc-P (or another bounded key): It's (clearly)
intricately.
Concerning folder-hook: This may a long time on large folders, so it's
not really good for me.
Concerning macros: There are so many ways you can "enter" a mail that
it's hard to detect them all; and (AFAIK) not all work with macros.
The only good thing I see is to make a message-hook. But (kill me if
it's wrong) it seems not to work with it. *If* it's wrong: Forgive me
and tell me the answer. I asked a month ago, but I found no satisfying
answer.
The most perfect way in my eyes is a $always-check-traditional-pgp
variable.
> or use procmail to "adjust" the message at delivery time so that
> it looks like MIME. There's no need for another setting and for mutt to
> have to parse every message in case it *might* be signed in the body.
Personally I don't like it to modify my mails (e.g. with procmail). In
the worst case the mails become corrupted and no more readable at all.
Apart from this I see no reason for modifying, the MUA can handle it.
> % Please don't write: There is no patch for this, write one. I don't have
> Of course I wonldn't write that; I'd use a semicolon instead of a
> comma ;-)
Ok, in *this* case... :-)
> Unless I've misunderstood (and need correction), you've mixed two
> different items: traditional checking (accomplished via esc-P) and
> on-demand verifying (accomplished through various macros). Can you
> confirm or deny?
Indeed I must confirm you. Sorry! The problem is clearly the *checking*
not the *verifying* (this is done correctly after the manual checking).
Greets,
-volker
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