Re: line editor command history behavior

2001-12-04 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 04:20:03PM +1100, Doug Kearns wrote: > I've just noticed that if you are cycling through the command history > and abort with a ^G, the next time you invoke the line editor you are > placed at the point in history list at which you aborted. > > example: > > :command 1 > :

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:21:38PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > the only quasi-official reference i've been able to find on the > Mail-Followup-To header is: > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt > > while i think that this becoming standard would

Re: a hook entered upon sending a message?

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 01:34]: | % | > If it really bothers you that much, unset $signature and $sig_dashes and | % | > then modify your editor command to append your signature file onto the | % | > temp file after the real editor completes. Note that re-editing a file | % |

Re: a bunch of newbie questions

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 01:26]: [context] | Rene, since starting to use mutt I've never wished delete was set to | ask-yes, but I sure hated mark_old (though I want stuff marked old at | times) :-) That was actually the first option I unset ;) -- René Clerc

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:21:38PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > the only quasi-official reference i've been able to find on the > > Mail-Followup-To header is: > > > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt > There are many

Re: Locking mboxes

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-12-03 13:36:30 -0600, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: >So I recompiled: ./configure --with-flock --enable-nfs-fix Don't use flock for locking mail folders accessed via NFS. Fcntl was the right thing to do. I'd guess that some part of your NFS locking is screwed up. What kind of NFS server a

Re: Locking mboxes

2001-12-04 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:45:45PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > % I would not design a production quality mail setup that relied on it > % if that is what you are asking. > Well, that's one way to answer it :-) I don't know enough to know > whether there are "right" and "wrong" ways to implement NF

Re: color problems after upgrade

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
> I tried you colors, and those object where default is specified as the > background, the aterm background shows thru - everything else - the > message body, and the main index background is still white on black. perhaps your $TERM is xterm-color (except for hardcoded applications that ignore $T

Re: Locking mboxes

2001-12-04 Thread David T-G
Steve, et al -- ...and then Steve Kennedy said... % On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:45:45PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % > % I would not design a production quality mail setup that relied on it % > % if that is what you are asking. % > Well, that's one way to answer it :-) I don't know enough to know

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Cedric Duval
> > > >http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt > > There are many RFC's in use as "standards" that never got beyond being > > draft standards "officially" I believe. > well their point seems to be that since it doesn't appear in rfc 2822, > it's likely

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Cedric Duval wrote: > > Even less "official" than the above draft, there is > > http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html > > which gives some arguments about why implementing MFT. yeah i noticed this one as well, although given the author i decided not to mention it (although it does make some

Re: Limiting folder list

2001-12-04 Thread Michael Tatge
Thomas Hurst muttered: > I've got quite a few folders, but a number of them haven't had any new > mail for the last few days - is there a function similar to to > limit the folder view to, for instance, folders with a last modified > date < 24 hours? No realy what you want but, don't put them in

Re: color problems after upgrade

2001-12-04 Thread Dave Price
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:58:02AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > I tried you colors, and those object where default is specified as the > > background, the aterm background shows thru - everything else - the > > message body, and the main index background is still white on black. > > perhaps yo

Re: color problems after upgrade

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Dave Price wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:58:02AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > I tried you colors, and those object where default is specified as the > > > background, the aterm background shows thru - everything else - the > > > message body, and the main index back

Re: color problems after upgrade

2001-12-04 Thread Dave Price
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 08:02:12AM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Dave Price wrote: > > > > > > > rereading - I addressed the wrong point. You have to use 'default' to > > > get the background to show through in all cases (except where mutt is > > > doing the wrong thing, o

Re: color problems after upgrade

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Dave Price wrote: > It is ncurses: > Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09) > System: Linux 2.2.19 [using ncurses 5.2] I'll have to try building 1.3.23i and see if I can spot the problem (when I'm at home). I did build one or two of the 1.3.x series, but just to check on progress... --

Re: color problems after upgrade

2001-12-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser
> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 06:11:14 -0700 > To: "Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: color problems after upgrade > From: Dave Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > also, when i try to set: > > color body black default > > i get "too few arguments"? hmmm co

Bug reports - where do they go?

2001-12-04 Thread Dave Smith
Hi all. I've got a couple of potential bugs, and some questions on how to debug/report them. First, the bugs: o Mutt seems to be losing track of the number of new messages. Every now and then, I end up with "New: 1" in the status bar at the bottom of the screen, but there aren't any n

Re: color problem - worked around

2001-12-04 Thread Dave Price
> > I'll have to try building 1.3.23i and see if I can spot the problem (when > I'm at home). I did build one or two of the 1.3.x series, but just to > check on progress... > setting the color of the normal object to have a default background makes all the difference. it is not even necessary

Re: Weird e-mail headers

2001-12-04 Thread Dave Smith
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:26:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not sure how to phrase this > > My e-mail headers are being displayed in Mutt like so: > > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 1.3^M > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M > Subject: daily AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR December 4

locking solved (was Re: a bunch of newbie questions)

2001-12-04 Thread Paul Brannan
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 08:30:27PM -0600, David wrote: > I think that this is exactly the problem... I dont know if you are on > linux, but in my mounts through NIS to an HPUX machine from linux, I use > a 'nolock' option that disables attempting to lock over NFS, and I just > use dotlocking. I d

Re: a bunch of newbie questions

2001-12-04 Thread Paul Brannan
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 02:59:31PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > ...and then Paul Brannan said... > % macro index $ ':set delete=ask-yes:set delete=no' > % > % All I get is a beep, and delete remains set to "ask-yes". > > That makes sense. Your macro sets it to ask-yes and then tries to sync > th

Re: a bunch of newbie questions

2001-12-04 Thread David T-G
Paul -- ...and then Paul Brannan said... % On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 02:59:31PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > ...and then Paul Brannan said... % > % macro index $ ':set delete=ask-yes:set delete=no' % > % % > % All I get is a beep, and delete remains set to "ask-yes". % > % > That makes sense. Y

Missing Mail-Followup-To

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas Hurst
I have set followup_to in my .muttrc, I have subscribe set (although only with the first part of the list name, i.e. cvs-all not [EMAIL PROTECTED] list-reply works fine, but for some reason mutt .24 isn't setting Mail-Followup-To. Is it only set in original mails, not replies? Hm, it is being se

Re: Weird e-mail headers

2001-12-04 Thread Jason Rashaad Jackson
Nah, actually the IMAP server is Cyrus IMAP on Linux. > Is the IMAP server running on Windows? Looks like a CR/LF problem to me. > > > -- > David Smith Tel: +44 (0)1454 462380 (direct) > STMicroelectronicsFax: +44 (0)1454 617910 > 1000 Aztec WestTINA (ST only

Downloading Mutt Source

2001-12-04 Thread Jeff Brodnax
I was just at ftp.mutt.org and was trying to download the source code. For somereason it would only let me download 59 percent of it. The expected size was 2.4 megs and I would only get 850 kb. I was just wondering if I am doing something wrong or is there another place to get it at? I have

Re: a couple more questions

2001-12-04 Thread Ailbhe Leamy
On (30/11/01 10:45), Paul Brannan wrote: > 1) How can I refresh the current inbox? The 'G' key seems to be >POP-specific (I'm using IMAP). Try $ > 2) Can I set up vim to place the cursor in the "To" field automatically >when composing a message? Probably, but I don't know how... -- H

Re: a bunch of newbie questions

2001-12-04 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:24:00PM -0500, David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rene, since starting to use mutt I've never wished delete was set to > ask-yes, but I sure hated mark_old (though I want stuff marked old at > times) :-) There is an patch which leaves messages marked old marked old

Re: Downloading Mutt Source

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Jeff Brodnax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 18:59]: | I was just at ftp.mutt.org and was trying to download the source | code. For somereason it would only let me download 59 percent of it. | The expected size was 2.4 megs and I would only get 850 kb. I was | just wondering if I am doing som

Re: a bunch of newbie questions

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 19:27]: | On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:24:00PM -0500, David T-G |<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Rene, since starting to use mutt I've never wished delete was set to | > ask-yes, but I sure hated mark_old (though I want stuff marked old at | > tim

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Josh Huber
Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > yes. this seems like kind of a bad idea to me, and something best > left to MUAs - even if they are slow to adopt this, it seems as if > enforcing this in an MTA might cause some problems. for instance if > i set the 'Reply-To' header to my address, bu

Re: Locking mboxes

2001-12-04 Thread Aaron Goldblatt
> >So I recompiled: ./configure --with-flock --enable-nfs-fix > Don't use flock for locking mail folders accessed via NFS. Fcntl > was the right thing to do. I'd guess that some part of your NFS > locking is screwed up. For the benefit of the archives, I resolved the issue by disabling both

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Josh Huber wrote: > Will Yardley writes: > > Er, a few points: > > 1) to have qmail generate the Mail-Followup-To header automatically, >you must have a list of mailing lists for it to use, so unless you >add addresses to this list, the header won't get generated. true, however if your

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 21:22]: | Josh Huber wrote: | > Will Yardley writes: | > | > Er, a few points: | > | > 1) to have qmail generate the Mail-Followup-To header automatically, | >you must have a list of mailing lists for it to use, so unless you | >add address

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Ren? Clerc wrote: > > I didn't check for group reply, but when I reply to your mail, it will > be sent to you directly, and when I 'L'ist reply, as I'm doing now, it > is sent to the list. Strange, I can't think of any directive that > would cause this behaviour... yeah you're correct about 're

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 21:52]: | Ren? Clerc wrote: | > | > I didn't check for group reply, but when I reply to your mail, it will | > be sent to you directly, and when I 'L'ist reply, as I'm doing now, it | > is sent to the list. Strange, I can't think of any directive th

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Mark Sheppard
On 2001-12-04 (Tuesday) at 21:40:40 +0100, René Clerc wrote: > * Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 21:22]: > | Josh Huber wrote: > | > > | > 1) to have qmail generate the Mail-Followup-To header automatically, > | >you must have a list of mailing lists for it to use, so unless you

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Ren? Clerc wrote: > * Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 21:52]: > | Ren? Clerc wrote: > | yeah you're correct about 'reply' - my bad. however group-reply i'm > | pretty sure honors MFT... if i select group-reply, in response to your > | mail, it is just addressed to the mutt list. >

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ren? Clerc wrote: > >> Then you probably have set ignore_list_reply_to=yes (where no = default) > > i don't. > > zugzug [~]% grep -ri ignore_list_reply .mutt* > zugzug [~]% A better test might be :set ?ignore_list_reply_to inside of Mutt. > yes i

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 22:41]: [...] | besides, i don't think you had reply-to set on your message anyway... | hitting group-reply still honors MFT i'm pretty sure. You don't have to have a Reply-To header in order for group-reply to work, do you? -- René Clerc

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Mark Sheppard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 22:11]: | > | true, however if your admin were to add this list to the server (say for | > | internal lists, or common lists) then you would have no way to change | > | this (assuming you do not have root access on the machine). if it's | > | your

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 22:43]: | Mutt should generate the MFT header based on the people you've | included in the To: and Cc: headers. If you remove the improperly | Cc-ed individual from the Cc: header, Mutt should not put that | person in the MFT header. I completely

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
Something else that strikes me: 591 r Dec 04 Will Yardley ( 38) mq> 592 s> Dec 04 To Mutt Users( 74) mq> 593 rs Dec 04 Mark Sheppard( 41) tq> 594 S> Dec 04 To Mutt Users( 50) x mq> 595

verify pgp-signature outside of mutt?

2001-12-04 Thread Gerhard Siegesmund
Hello Mutt-Users First of all: I love mutt. It really rocks. Ok. Lets get down to business. I tried to create a small script which automatically verifies pgp-signed mails from mutt. I have a mailinglist-archive for all of the mailinglists I get. But I want to verify the signatures when the mails

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread David T-G
Rene -- ...and then Ren? Clerc said... % Something else that strikes me: Whack! % % % ... % 593 rs Dec 04 Mark Sheppard( 41) tq> % 594 S> Dec 04 To Mutt Users( 50) x mq> % 595 S Dec 04 Will Yardley ( 42) mq

Re: Downloading Mutt Source

2001-12-04 Thread David T-G
Jeff -- ...and then Jeff Brodnax said... % I was just at ftp.mutt.org and was trying to download the source code. For somereason it would only let me download 59 percent of it. The expected size was 2.4 megs and I would only get 850 kb. I was just wondering if I am doing something wrong or

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 23:41]: | Rene -- | | ...and then Ren? Clerc said... (see below) | Did you postpone in the middle of that message? If you postpone, you | must be in the same mailbox when you recall and complete in order for the | flag to be properly updated. That

Re: a bunch of newbie questions

2001-12-04 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 07:49:46PM +0100, René Clerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 19:27]: > > | On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:24:00PM -0500, David T-G ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > Rene, since starting to use mutt I've never wished delete was

Re: verify pgp-signature outside of mutt?

2001-12-04 Thread David Ellement
On 011204, at 21:42:48, Gerhard Siegesmund wrote > [...] I tried to create a small script which automatically > verifies pgp-signed mails from mutt. [...] It already works with > inline-signatures. Simple script, simple output. For the > mime-signed mails it doesn't work. :-( > > Signed mail i

char sets (was "Re: mail-followup-to standard...." though it shouldn't have been)

2001-12-04 Thread David T-G
Rene, et al -- ...and then Ren? Clerc said... % * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-12-2001 23:41]: % % | Rene -- % | % | ...and then Ren? Clerc said... ... % | % -- % | % René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) % % Hmm... you still seem to find three ways to spell my name ;) I

binding and slow reaction

2001-12-04 Thread Brian Clark
Greetings, Can anyone tell me why this: bind pager \e exit Causes there to be a full 1 second delay, after hitting Esc, before it actually quits the pager? For example, arrow over the message in the list, hit enter, view message, hit Esc, one-one-thousand, message returns to full-view index.

Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Is there a way to exit Mutt directly from the browser? After "c ", "q" just takes me back to the "Open mailbox" prompt. The help doesn't reveal any other promising commands. I'm running Mutt 1.3.24i and have "quit" set to "yes". Thanks, Sam -- It doesn't matter if you're the greatest guitar p

Re: binding and slow reaction

2001-12-04 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 09:48:35PM -0500, Brian Clark wrote: > Greetings, > > Can anyone tell me why this: > > bind pager \e exit > > Causes there to be a full 1 second delay, after hitting Esc, before it > actually quits the pager? > Yes I can tell you. Esc is a lead in to many other commands

Re: binding and slow reaction

2001-12-04 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:20:05AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 09:48:35PM -0500, Brian Clark wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Can anyone tell me why this: > > > > bind pager \e exit > > > > Causes there to be a full 1 second delay, after hitting Esc, before it > > actua

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:46:39PM -0500, Samuel Padgett wrote: > Is there a way to exit Mutt directly from the browser? After "c > ", "q" just takes me back to the "Open mailbox" prompt. > The help doesn't reveal any other promising commands. I'm running > Mutt 1.3.24i and have "quit" set to "

Re: binding and slow reaction

2001-12-04 Thread Brian Clark
* Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 04. 2001 23:22]: > > bind pager \e exit > > > > Causes there to be a full 1 second delay, after hitting Esc, before it > > actually quits the pager? > > > Yes I can tell you. > Esc is a lead in to many other commands. > The delay is to see if anything

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Ken Weingold
On Wed, Dec 5, 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:46:39PM -0500, Samuel Padgett wrote: > > Is there a way to exit Mutt directly from the browser? After "c > > ", "q" just takes me back to the "Open mailbox" prompt. > > The help doesn't reveal any other promising commands.

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > The meaning of "q" is context dependent. > > Or you could just remap 'q' to Quit. Or use 'Q'. What about CTRL-C...? Seems to work everywhere... KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Personal Homepage: http://www.skyjammer.com/~pronovic/ "They that can give up essential liberty

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Or you could just remap 'q' to Quit. Or use 'Q'. Key is not bound. Press '?' for help. Hm. Sam -- It doesn't matter if you're the greatest guitar player in the world. If you're not enlightened, forget it. -- George Harrison

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Samuel Padgett
Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about CTRL-C...? Seems to work everywhere... If I delete a message in a mailbox, type "c ?", then quit with "C-c", Mutt doesn't purge the deleted message :-( Sam -- It doesn't matter if you're the greatest guitar player in the world. If you'

Re: Quitting Mutt from Browser

2001-12-04 Thread Ken Weingold
On Wed, Dec 5, 2001, Samuel Padgett wrote: > Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Or you could just remap 'q' to Quit. Or use 'Q'. > > Key is not bound. Press '?' for help. > > Hm. Weird. I never touched those in my muttrc, so they are default for me. Qquit

Weird e-mail headers

2001-12-04 Thread Jason Rashaad Jackson
Not sure how to phrase this My e-mail headers are being displayed in Mutt like so: X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 1.3^M From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M Subject: daily AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR December 4, 2001^M This wouldn't bother me if it weren't for the fact that it seems to be sc

Re: Weird e-mail headers

2001-12-04 Thread Jesper Holmberg
* On Tue Dec 04, Jason Rashaad Jackson wrote: > My e-mail headers are being displayed in Mutt like so: > > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 1.3^M > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M > Subject: daily AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR December 4, 2001^M If you're using fetchmail to retreive your e-mai