Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-23 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi Stan, > Mutt's current behavior is consistent with elm and other mailers. > This is traditional mbox behavior. I happen to like it. Are there RFCs or something like that? That is has always been so doesn't necessarily mean that it's correct. > > Great! Developers, will you change it then? :

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-23 Thread Stan Ryckman
Mutt's current behavior is consistent with elm and other mailers. This is traditional mbox behavior. I happen to like it. > Great! Developers, will you change it then? :-) I hope not. There is no need to have the mtime to be updated every time the ctime is updated. (Or, if there is such a ne

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-23 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi Matt, > My reasoning is close to Luke's: to support legacy mail notification > programs. I thought about that, too. I think the change whouldn't affect bash if mutt only keeps the timestamp of the incoming mailbox /var/mail/..., right? > However, I see your point. I wasn't really thinking a

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-23 Thread Matt Dunford
* Andy Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010719 15:08]: > > > Noone objected - does that mean that the code will be removed in the next > > > release? If no, what do I have to do so that it will be removed? > > > > I'll throw in my objection then. You're proposing something like this?? > Yes. > >

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-19 Thread Andy Spiegl
> > Noone objected - does that mean that the code will be removed in the next > > release? If no, what do I have to do so that it will be removed? > > I'll throw in my objection then. You're proposing something like this?? Yes. > I think mutt should restore the a/m times. Hm, and why do you

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-19 Thread Luke Ross
Hi, On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:50:19AM -0500, Andy Spiegl wrote: > > Noone objected - does that mean that the code will be removed in the next > release? If no, what do I have to do so that it will be removed? As I touched upon before, I'll be unhappy if it breaks my bash new mail notificat

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-19 Thread Matt Dunford
* Andy Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010718 12:58]: > > > Might be helpful with some naive new-mail checking programs, but of > > > course breaks mechanisms which really look for mailbox updates. > > I vote for removing the code. (c: > > Anyone objects? > > Noone objected - does that mean that th

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-18 Thread Andy Spiegl
> > Might be helpful with some naive new-mail checking programs, but of > > course breaks mechanisms which really look for mailbox updates. > I vote for removing the code. (c: > Anyone objects? Noone objected - does that mean that the code will be removed in the next release? If no, what do

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-12 Thread Matt Dunford
* Matt Dunford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010707 16:54]: > > I'm experiencing a similar problem. My mailboxes count fluctuates as I > browse through my mailboxes. Here's a snippit from my .muttrc: > > set status_format="%v: %f%r [%M/%m] [N=%n,*=%t,post=%p,boxes=%b] %?V?{%V}?" > mailboxes ! =ancientb

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-11 Thread Thomas Roessler
Depends on what kind of heuristic bash applies. On 2001-07-11 21:29:23 +0100, Luke Ross wrote: >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:29:23 +0100 >From: Luke Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Mutt User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated &

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-11 Thread Luke Ross
Hi > > Might be helpful with some naive new-mail checking programs, but of > > course breaks mechanisms which really look for mailbox updates. > I vote for removing the code. (c: > Anyone objects? Will it affect bash telling me I have new mail? (As in, it'll say I do every time I quit mutt?)

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-11 Thread Andy Spiegl
> In order to remove this behaviour, you'd just have to comment out > lines 960-965 in mbox.c. Ah, great. Hm, but what will I break doing that? :-) > Thinking about it, the code in question makes sure that an mbox > folder's mtime is always the point of time at which the last message > was _a

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-11 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-07-10 19:08:27 -0500, Andy Spiegl wrote: >> >> hamster:~>l testmailbox >> >> -rw---1 spiegl users 26537 Feb 20 20:57 testmailbox >[...] >> >> hamster:~>l testmailbox >> >> -rw---1 spiegl users 26579 Feb 20 20:57 testmailbox >[...] >> >> hamster:~>l testmail

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-11 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-07-10 19:08:27 -0500, Andy Spiegl wrote: >By the way you are also wrong about the proof of the 60 seconds. >:-) I had done this test not 5 months ago, but very recently. >Only the timestamp of the file is from February! Thinking about it, the code in question makes sure that an mbox f

duplicated it [Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated]

2001-07-11 Thread Tony Godshall
I was going to ask for what your alias was, but I went and tried it myself. ls -l shows the same effect! On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 07:08:27PM -0500, Andy Spiegl wrote: > By the way you are also wrong about the proof of the 60 seconds. :-) > I had done this test not 5 months ago, but very recently.

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-10 Thread Mr. Wade
I have also noticed that mbox mailbox files' modification times seem not to be updated when messages are deleted. Whenever a message is added, the file's modification time is updated, though. Unfortunately, I have no idea why. Andy Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mutters, > > I am gradu

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-10 Thread Andy Spiegl
> All you have been proving so far is that mutt is able to read and > rewrite a 4-message, 20k mailbox within less than 60 seconds... N, I have also proven that the timestamp is the same BEFORE and AFTER opening and changing the contents of the mailbox: > >> hamster:~>l testmailbox > >> -rw

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-10 Thread Thomas Roessler
To: Mutt User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated >Mail-Followup-To: Mutt User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i >Organization: Radio Marañón, Peru > >Hi Mutters, > >I am gradually getting concerned that n

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-10 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi Mutters, I am gradually getting concerned that no one is caring about this bug (if it's a bug and not a strange feature). Please let me know if there is something I can do to change this strange behaviur of mutt. I can't find anything in the manual and FAQ. Hope I didn't overlook anything.

Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-07 Thread Matt Dunford
* Andy Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010706 17:16]: > Hi Mutters, > > I found it very strange to find out that mutt sometimes doesn't update the > timestamp of a mailbox file. Here's an example: > > [...] *snip* > > Is there a specific reason for this behaviour? Or could it be a > configuration