Re: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i

2002-09-11 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:20:41PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote: > is there a new release of mutt (1.5.1i) available? this is the cvs version. it hasn't been "released" afaik. -- Peter Abplanalp PGP: pgp.mit.edu msg30874/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Trying to do too much with Mutt?

2002-09-11 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 07:33:23PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: >Alternatively, I don't suppose it's possible to use send-hook to put >the outgoing mail through awk, to generate X-Topic from Fcc, before >it is scrubbed? Now that would allow me to go to town! i would suggest you cr

Re: mutt + procmail + qmail

2002-09-11 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 01:32:19PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Johan Almqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-11 05:46]: > > No, because the address subscribed to this list is johan-mutt and I have > > > > #cat .qmail-mutt > > ~/Maildir/.mutt/ > > > > That's a lot better that filtering based on som

Re: mutt + procmail + qmail

2002-09-11 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 10:11:22AM +1000, Iain Truskett wrote: > :0: > * ^Sender: owner-mutt-(dev|users)@mutt.org > apps-mutt/ the first line can actually be written as follows: :0 the second colon tells procmail to lock an mbox file which isn't necessary for maildir. -- Peter Abplanalp PGP:

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As for the manner on this group, you are correct. This group can > be a little rougher in its treatment of newbies than most others. > I'm not sure why they think they have to be but its just the select few > self-appointed/sel

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:00:19PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > In this discussion, many replies are polite and informative but others > are cynical and rude, even they are written in 'good style'. I can sit > down and argue with you about compared to web, ftp, mp3, rm, how much > bandwidth is used for

Re: location of signature.

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 01:00:49PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > Are there good manners? yes, there are. i am going to make an assumption here and assume that english is not your first language (no slight intended.) let's say you and two other people are talking, one speaks your native language and t

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Yes, but it's much less likely to happen... a spammer would have to go > to a lot of effort (comparatively) to sign up for a list like this... > and spamming a list of largely technical people would be dumb anyway. i disagree. it wo

Re: overriding headers - is version info a security hole?

2002-08-29 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:44:51PM -0400, krjw wrote: > Thank you for the flame. It's the first one I've received since being > on this list for less than a day. you'll have to excuse sven and you don't really want to antagonize him. he knows a lot about mutt. lighten up. it's all good. btw

Re: Emulating (gaaack) Outlook attribution

2002-08-29 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:37:30AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Peter T. Abplanalp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-29 23:29]: > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:21:53AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > if your boss behaves stupid and you play along - does that help? > >

Re: Emulating (gaaack) Outlook attribution

2002-08-29 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:21:53AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Sven Guckes wrote: > > the problem is that M$ does not play according to the rules. > > it's time to give up compatibility with them and let them > > feel that they are using bad software. let *th

Re: overriding headers - is version info a security hole?

2002-08-29 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:01:13AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * krjw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-29 20:56]: > > As for version numbers, there's nothing wrong with them > > unless they are advertised to potentially malicious users. > > Assuming a given version of a given MUA has a known security

Re: Emulating (gaaack) Outlook attribution

2002-08-29 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:55:18AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Michael Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-29 17:26]: > > At work, I use Linux and have been using Mutt and Sylpheed. > > Yesterday, my boss complained about the format of my e-mails. > > So to make him happy, I have developed > > a

Re: a number of newbie questions

2002-08-29 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:30PM -0400, krjw wrote: > +-- On 29082002 12:16:11 +, darren chamberlain uttered: > | * krjw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-29 11:57]: > | > | > 1) Firstly, does mutt support or will mutt ever support extended > | > maildirs? I've never seen extended maildirs 'til

Re: where to specify html viewer

2002-07-31 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:42:10AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I installed the latest version of mutt, it changed or lost how to view > html messages (lynx), and now returns this error: > >h: lynx-dump: command not found > > I've looked through the main mutt config and doc's, but

Re: gpg-decryption produces "^M"s

2002-07-24 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:05:01PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: > Hi, > > * Peter T. Abplanalp [02-07-24 19:55:29 +0200] wrote: > > > for example (untested): > > > set pgp_decrypt_command="gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose --batch > > --output - %f | se

Re: gpg-decryption produces "^M"s

2002-07-24 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 05:08:09PM +0200, Heiko Heil wrote: > Hello Mutt-users, > > a friend of mine uses Outlook :-( in order to write me encrypted > GnuPG E-Mails... a common problem. i have it as well and have, as yet, been unable to solve it. :-) > Everytime (after pressing ESC-P) i get th

Re: automatic pgp key import

2002-07-16 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 11:25:53AM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: > Check the upgrade notes to GnuPG 1.0.7. I believe you need: > > keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve minor clarification: you need to put the above in your gnupg options file not in any of the muttrc pgp stuff. -- Peter

Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:18:54PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: > Hi, > > Don't know where to go to first with this problem, so y'all please be my > victim ;) > > I run mutt in a gnome-terminal. I use LC_CTYPE=en_US, so defined in > .bashrc. So far so good. > > I also have a shortcut aka launc

Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:18:54PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: > Hi, hello. > I don't know if the --command option for gnome-terminal causes a > different environment to be set. And if so if it's a feature or a > bug. After searching faqs, checking manuals and browsing bugzillas, > I give up.

Re: Extracting a PGP signature?

2002-06-26 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:59:41PM -0400, Phil Gregory wrote: > People have sent me some PGP signed emails in PGP/MIME format (with > signature as a separate attachment). I would like to turn these into > standalone files with just the contents and the signatures. Does > anyone here know how I'd

Re: creating weird encrypted mails (like pgp_create_traditional)

2002-06-24 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 08:42:15PM +0200, Raoul B?nisch wrote: > Hello! hi. > "How can I send really broken encrypted email with mutt?" interestingly enough, it is possible to break mutt in such a way as to do this. from memory, you can use the 1.5 dev version of mutt which does this automagic

yet another outlook question

2002-06-20 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
hi all, is it possible for mutt to scan the headers of a message one is replying to and set certain parameters based on regexs? basically what i want is for mutt to set p_c_t if it sees a x-mailer that looks like outlook. is this possible? thanks, -- Peter Abplanalp Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

pct patch for 1.5

2002-06-18 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
i was wondering if someone could point me at a source for dale woolridge's pct patch for outlook compatibility for mutt 1.5. i looked on his web site but it says contact him for the patches but i couldn't find any contact info. probably understandable. 1.4 would work as well, if anyone knows a

Re: Deleting a message from multiple folders

2002-06-12 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 09:52:34AM -0400, Mike Schiraldi wrote: > I'd like to transition to a setup where most incoming mail gets procmailed > into three folders: archive-, archive, and either INBOX or whatever > other mailbox the procmail rules determine. > > That part i can take care of myself.

Re: bcc on folder-hook

2002-06-11 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 03:17:16PM -0400, Mike Arrison wrote: > Mutters, > I can't figure out how to make a folder-hook that will set the > bcc field. Basically whenever I'm in folder "abc", I'd like to bcc an > address. I can't figure how to make it work with a send-hook either. > I'm t

Re: More send-hook (+folder-hook) questions (long)

2002-06-11 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 02:22:47PM -0400, Sweth Chandramouli wrote: [...sniiip..] > So, I'm totally confused now. What gives? i don't know. ;-) but i have a suggestion in the form of a question because i don't have time to play with it myself. is it possible to get rid of t

Re: maildir vs mbox

2002-06-09 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 05:23:45PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I don't want to start a religious war, but is there consensus opinion > as to whether mbox or Maildir is better? I know mutt supports both > automatically, so it's probably a bit of a mute question, but mutt > also gives you the o

Re: NuBe: upgrade question

2002-06-06 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:58:18AM -0400, Kevin wrote: > So here's my question (at long last!): Should I uninstall the Mutt > 1.2.5 RPM, and then just do a default install of Mutt 1.4? I've > already been using Mutt and have mail folders, etc that I don't > want to lose. it may be too late bu

Re: Default folder for save attachements

2002-06-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:45:20PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > I don't believe so; I just did a quick grep thru the manual and didn't > see anything on it, but that's where you'd find out about it. The > closest you can probably come is changing to there before starting mutt > if you don't want to

gpg & mutt

2002-06-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
i have mutt set up with gpg. when verifying a message, gpg gives the following output: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Wed Jun 5 13:45:19 2002) --] gpg: Signature made Wed Jun 5 13:24:25 2002 MDT using DSA key ID D654075A gpg: Good signature from "Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" gpg:

Re: alias instead of real from

2002-06-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
you may also want to have both lines in your muttrc. off the top of my head, i can't remember what each does but i find that i like to have both set. On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:37:48PM -0400, Mike Arrison wrote: > Mutters, > I recently changed a line in my muttrc from 'lists > [EMAIL PROT

email list woes

2002-06-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
this may be a little off topic but you are all such a friendly bunch and i used mutt to send the email, i thought i'd give it a try... i have tried to subscribe to a couple mailing lists by sending a subscribe message (using mutt!) to the list subscribe address but i never get a response of any k

Re: un-alternates?

2002-04-07 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:12:46PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > Here you go: > > while () > { > if (m//) > { > print "It matches!\n"; > } > else > { > print "It doesn't match!\n"; > } > } i would suggest you pass in both the regex and the email. that way you won't ha

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:46:15PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Let me see if I get this straight: ok. > This hypothetical person is capable of installing a PGP plugin for > Outlook, but isn't capable of using it to decrypt an attached file? first a little clarification, i am talking about th

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:05:41PM +, Simon White wrote: > If it dies, it's biology. If it blows up, it's chemistry, and if it > doesn't work, it's physics. ...and if it doesn't work, it's...anyone...anyone...anyone...OUTLOOK! -- Peter Abplanalp Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: pgp.mi

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 04:39:17PM +, Simon White wrote: > Isn't that kinda like saying you have a door with 3 locks, but there are > people who can't be bothered to use 3 keys, so you leave one open anyway > so that those people can come into your secure environment with less than > the requ

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > > No. IMHO, Dave shouldn't bother making that work. If you really need to > send an Outlook user a signed email and a patch, and he has to open both > the email and the patch seperately, well, sometimes Microsoft's > stupidity is

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:12:05AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Ah; didn't realize that was the problem you were describing. Yes, > that's a limitation of the patch. > > That's what happens when you try to do something that isn't > standardized; different people do it differently. curses! am

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:10:04AM -0500, David T-G wrote: > He means that he would like for you to send a message in $p_c_t format to > the list for our review. He might even mean that you should send another > with an attachment (hey, why not `mutt -v` and make it useful? :-) > and attempt to t

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:37:33AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > There's a better way, but more on that after we get your problem fixed. > Could you answer "yes" on a response to the list, so we can see what > you're sending out? not sure what you mean here. do you want me to send a simple email

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:39:42AM -0500, David T-G wrote: > I wondered about this the last time but didn't jump in, but since I'm > here now... Peter, does $p_c_t work for you for normal messages? I read > you to say that it doesn't work the way outhouse expects for attachments, > but I think t

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:22:19AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > > It does when I use it. What did you put in your .muttrc to activate it? > it is my understanding that what is necessary to activate it is the p_c_t variable which i have set to ask-no because in most cases i want to do pgp/mime

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 08:54:26PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:49:15PM -0700: > > that this would be considered "broken" by today's "standards." i > > guess if i want mutt to ha

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 08:26:49PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > > No. That's one reason inline signatures are evil. > i kind of figured; however, the gnupg plugin for outlook from g-data handles it by inline signing the message and then signing the attachment separately. it handles encryption

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
...David T-G made some exceleent suggestions... ok, i got mutt 1.3.28, put dale's patch over it, compiled and installed it. now my outlook can read the stuff. thanks! however, if i am working without any attachments everything works fine but as soon as i add an attachemnt, i no longer get the

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:50:25PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Peter T. Abplanalp wrote: > > > > given the above, i know mutt handles pgp/mime natively and that it can > > do application/pgp with the pgp_create_traditional. my problem is > > that neither of these for

gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
ok, i've spent a number of hours over the last two days going over the list archives for mutt and gnupg reading up on the conventions for signing messages. it is now my understanding that there are 3 ways to sign a message: pgp/mime, ascii armor, and application/pgp. i'm not certain on the termi

send-hook and set

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
i think i know the answer to this but i wanted to make sure... if i have a send-hook: send-hook somelist set pgp_autosign=no it changes the value of pgp_autosign from there on out, yes? it is not a temporary item just for this send afterwhich the global value of pgp_autosign returns. that is

Re: language-problem -> no locales files foo.mo

2002-04-04 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 05:30:35PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > and next thing you know it'll be > "handbuch handbuch" instead of "man man". > no thanks. shouldn't that be "hand hand"? (man is a shortcut for manual) ...i'm not really that funny but i try... > (you English-only types are not su

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
: -/u sub 1024g/CB44AB9B created: 2002-01-09 expires: never (1). Peter T. Abplanalp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Command> check uid Peter T. Abplanalp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sig! 7D224574 2002-01-09 [self-signature] sig! 09468BD5 2002-02-06 Peter T. Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 12:42:19PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > If you're using GnuPG, see the "lsign" option. ok. just to see how things work, i lsigned the key that i got from the keyserver when i opened the email i am responding to. presumably your key and email ;-). now when mutt invokes

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:33:36PM +0100, Dave Smith wrote: > You could succumb to the non-standards-following world and use the > pgp_create_traditional variable. There are also other ways of signing > messages that have been used in the past, and many discussions have taken > place here, and p

message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
hi all. just a quick question from a newbie. i usually sign all my emails but one of the lists i write to complains that it will not accept emails with attachments due to the fact that they don't want to spread msft viruses. now it is my understanding that when you sign an email you are actuall

Re: gnupg

2002-03-30 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
http://www.mutt.org has a few links to pgp/gpg stuff. take alook. On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 12:48:23PM -0500, keeper1 wrote: > Greetings! As a newbie to mutt, I was wondering if somebody could direct > me to a site that has a howto for mutt and gnupg to get me started. > Thanks for anything. > >