Re: New to Mutt -> Sven's Setup Page

2002-03-11 Thread Sven Guckes
* Busby, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020309 12:23]: > I have a RH 7.2 box and am interested in using Mutt. I have it > installed, but I can't seem to get it to do anything - yet.. > I have looked at the man page but that really doesn't seem to > help me. Can anyone direct me to a good new user lo

another build question

2002-03-11 Thread Ken Weingold
Thanks for all the feedback about the building. I will try out what was suggested. One issue though: iconv. I don't want to use up my disk quota installing libiconv into my homedir. I don't see it anywhere on the system, but see an iconv binary in /usr/local/emul/linux/usr/bin/iconv/usr/local/

Re: Is mutt really "handicapped"? -> vim :split

2002-03-11 Thread Sven Guckes
* Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020307 21:28]: > On 07/03/02 Heiko Heil did speaketh: > > I use the splitting-feature of vim (:help sp). > How do you use it to read mail in a folder though? > Do you open the mbox file? $ vim ~/Mail/michael.soulier :split See? ;-) Sven -- Sven G

Re: Mutt with IMAP

2002-03-11 Thread Gerhard Häring
Le 11/03/02 à 17:15, Gerhard Häring écrivit: > Le 11/03/02 à 15:54, Simon White écrivit: > > [mutt & imap is slow] > > [...] > Reading the ~5000 emails from my mutt-user folder takes approx. 18 > seconds. That's really slow, IMNSHO. I think the only thing that would > really help would be to inst

folder_format

2002-03-11 Thread Michel
Hello again! I test the folder_format with the string: set folder_format= "%\%C %N %t %d %\ %s %>. %f %\ " I like how it fell, but I'm want to correct some mistakes: - The "%N" and "%t" string don't work... %N puts on screen a mark for boxes with new mail, %t puts a mark for boxes with t

Re: Another Color to new Mail. (Solution)

2002-03-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hello, On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 02:15:57PM -0300 Michel wrote: >9 Feb 19 04:51 22 .. inbox@ >10 Mar 09 08:42 38377 ... lidas [...] > set folder_format= "%\%C %N %t %d %s %>. %f %\ " [...] > Only in

Another Color to new Mail. (Solution)

2002-03-11 Thread Michel
Hello folks! I'm wondering with this feature :) Darren: I try this and enjoy :) Everybody: see how is my folder before... 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 10

7 bit and quoted message question

2002-03-11 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello to all, Recently I've noticed that there are some differences when I send a message with pgp signature and without it. The differences are: ==> pgp signed message: "I 1 [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.2K]" ==> message without pgp s

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Lorin Winchester
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:23:22PM +, Simon White wrote: > > Confusion on my part. I guess I remembered being able to subscribe to the > > list from http://www.mutt.org and figured that it was a Mailman interface. > > > > Didn't you use some other reason just a few minutes ago? ;-) I was

7 bit and quoted message question

2002-03-11 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello to all, Recently I've noticed that there are some differences when I send a message with pgp signature and without it. The differences are: ==> pgp signed message: "I 1 [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.2K]" ==> message with

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Alexander Skwar
»Lorin Winchester« sagte am 2002-03-11 um 11:38:48 -0500 : > to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece > of software. Well, setting the header right (ie. Reply-To: ) is hardly Mailmans fault. It's rather the "fault" of the mailinglist owner for enabling that ver

Re: New mail notify with Maildir "spools"?

2002-03-11 Thread Alexander Skwar
»Nicolas Rachinsky« sagte am 2002-03-11 um 01:03:16 +0100 : > What does ? show? Somebody asked this question Hm, just one directory. Changing to just "=" gives me all the directories. Well, seems like it fixed my problem. Thanks! Also thanks for, uhm, "das Du so lange nachgebohrt hast" ;) Al

OT: netmind and for-pay -- not necessarily?

2002-03-11 Thread David T-G
Hi, all -- Recently someone remarked that mind-it had gone for-pay only. Their web site certainly suggests that, but I just clicked on an old link of mine and was taken to the registration page and apparently completed successfully. It may be that you have to follow a link in order to still reg

Re: Another Color to new Mail.

2002-03-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:22:30AM -0300 Michel wrote: > 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ > 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ > 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Feb 19 02:02 Musica/ > 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel

Re: Disabling Shell Command function

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Tatge
Devin Brown muttered: > I'm a sysadmin of a Linux server in which users telnet (or ssh) into shells > using rbash so they can only execute progams I want them to execute. > right now the only E-Mail client I give them access to is Pine because Mutt > has a function where you can execute a shell c

Re: Disabling Shell Command function

2002-03-11 Thread Mike Schiraldi
Also, look into mount's "noexec" switch, or else users can mail themselves arbitrary binaries and then save them in the jail and run them. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg25307/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Disabling Shell Command function

2002-03-11 Thread Mike Schiraldi
> Anyone know a way to do this? As has been pointed out, any plan that makes it impossible for a smart user to execute arbitrary programs from within mutt would also cripple mutt. Usually the right way to handle a situation like you describe is with the chroot command. It's a bit of a bother, si

Re: Disabling Shell Command function

2002-03-11 Thread David T-G
Devin, et al -- ...and then Devin Brown said... % % I'm a sysadmin of a Linux server in which users telnet (or ssh) into shells % using rbash so they can only execute progams I want them to execute. As of Interesting. % right now the only E-Mail client I give them access to is Pine because M

Re: FCC to a program/pipe?

2002-03-11 Thread David DeSimone
David G. Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been digging around for a bit trying to figure out the best way > to do this: How can I set mutt up to pipe an auto-FCC of my outgoing > mail to a program, instead of a file? Mutt already sends every mail you send to a program... The MTA! T

Mails not deleted through IMAP

2002-03-11 Thread Jose Celestino
I'm having a little problem when trying to delete mails from an IMAP account. For instance, in a maildir with about 3000 mails if I mark 250 mails as deleted and then get out of mutt (syncing the maildir of course) the next time I login I see that only 10 or 20 of the mail I delete where really de

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Simon White
On 11-Mar-02 at 13:15, Lorin Winchester's inspired musing was thus : > One user (one of the Outlook/AOL bunch) > said that it's just too much work to have to manually enter the address of > the poster he wishes to reply to directly, so he complains and sends private > replies to the list. It's be

Disabling Shell Command function

2002-03-11 Thread Devin Brown
I'm a sysadmin of a Linux server in which users telnet (or ssh) into shells using rbash so they can only execute progams I want them to execute. As of right now the only E-Mail client I give them access to is Pine because Mutt has a function where you can execute a shell command. If the command

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Lorin Winchester
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:34:32PM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: > I'd say that it's bad MUAs being mis-configured; you can only do > so much about that. I've never seen/heard of this problem, and my > first instinct is to chalk it up to user mis-education. This is also the way that I think.

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Lorin Winchester
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:31:42PM +, Simon White wrote: > It can be changed. That's what I though. Time to mail the administrator of that list! -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Lorin Winchester
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 10:51:15AM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > These lists are majordomo, not mailman. Oops, I was getting this list confused with yet another list I'm on that switched to Mailman. But I posted to the correct list. :) -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another Color to new Mail.

2002-03-11 Thread darren chamberlain
Quoting Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 11, 2002 12:58]: > I'm with a little matter: I work with several folder to store > mails in filtering of procmail... When I type "c" and "?" I > receive: > > 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ > 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel mich

Another Color to new Mail.

2002-03-11 Thread Michel
Hi brothers :) I'm with a little matter: I work with several folder to store mails in filtering of procmail... When I type "c" and "?" I receive: 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:38:48AM -0500, Lorin Winchester wrote: > to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece > of software. Which it isn't. > I (and others on the list using Mutt) have never noticed this "bug" that the > (l)users speak of, since Mutt handles ma

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread darren chamberlain
Quoting Lorin Winchester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 11, 2002 11:39]: [-- snip --] > So is this a case of users not knowing how to properly > configure/use their MTAs, or is it a case of the list > administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I > posted this here since this list runs

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Simon White
On 11-Mar-02 at 11:38, Lorin Winchester's inspired musing was thus : > This is semi-off-topic, but it somewhat relates to Mutt and Mailman. I'm on > another mailing list that was recently switched from Majordomo to Mailman. > Many times when users try to reply privately to a poster they end up po

Re: Mutt with IMAP

2002-03-11 Thread Gerhard Häring
Le 11/03/02 à 15:54, Simon White écrivit: > Hello > > I am having some performance problems with IMAP via MUTT, it seems hungrier > for I/O than PINE was. However, I like mutt enough to put up with some > slowness, but over a 10mbps network direct to the mailserver I'd expect it to > be a bit bet

Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Mar 11, Lorin Winchester [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > This is semi-off-topic, but it somewhat relates to Mutt and Mailman. I'm on > another mailing list that was recently switched from Majordomo to Mailman. > Many times when users try to reply privately to a poster they end up posting > to the

Re: Mutt on Mac OS X?

2002-03-11 Thread Ken Weingold
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002, Thomas Baker wrote: > Looking into it further, I find precompiled ports of vim, pine, lynx, > ncftp, and (in theory) procmail -- only in theory, because its ftp > directory is empty -- under http://www.osxgnu.org/software/index.html. > But no mutt! > > Does anyone here know

Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs

2002-03-11 Thread Lorin Winchester
This is semi-off-topic, but it somewhat relates to Mutt and Mailman. I'm on another mailing list that was recently switched from Majordomo to Mailman. Many times when users try to reply privately to a poster they end up posting to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor

Mutt with IMAP

2002-03-11 Thread Simon White
Hello I am having some performance problems with IMAP via MUTT, it seems hungrier for I/O than PINE was. However, I like mutt enough to put up with some slowness, but over a 10mbps network direct to the mailserver I'd expect it to be a bit better. Maybe a better IMAP server would help. I can fin

Re: Mutt on Mac OS X?

2002-03-11 Thread Josh Kuperman
I have been using Mutt on OS X. I installed it with Fink package manager. If you use the sendmail that comes with OS X, then procmail is the local mail delivery agent by default. It is already precompiled into it. With any luck you'll see that this is being sent out from a "Darwin" machine in the

Re: building question

2002-03-11 Thread darren chamberlain
Quoting Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 10, 2002 18:05]: > I am getting a new shell account where I am limited 50 megs of > space. Even though I use my own patched version of mutt, they > do have it installed. What I want to do is use the mutt binary > from ~/bin, but use the rest of the s

Re: building question

2002-03-11 Thread David T-G
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % I am getting a new shell account where I am limited 50 megs of space. Yikes :-) % Even though I use my own patched version of mutt, they do have it % installed. What I want to do is use the mutt binary from ~/bin, but Cool; that is helpful. % us

Re: problem recieving .zip attachment

2002-03-11 Thread David T-G
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % Hi % is there any reason why I'm recieving a zipped file from an Lookout! % user as inline content? Probably because of Outhouse. If it looks that way when it gets to you, it isn't your fault. %

Re: New to Mutt

2002-03-11 Thread David T-G
Richard -- ...and then Busby, Richard said... % % I have a RH 7.2 box and am interested in using Mutt. I have it installed, Yay! % but I can't seem to get it to do anything - yet.. I have looked at the man Fair enough. % page but that really doesn't seem to help me. Can anyone direct me to

Re: Displaying all mail after a limit command

2002-03-11 Thread darren chamberlain
Quoting Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 10, 2002 23:02]: > After I used the limit command (l) to find certain emails, I am at a > lost for going back to my original view of all the mail. I suppose I > could open up the mailbox again, but that seems wrong. Limit to ~A (all) does it for me. (

Re: compose edit command

2002-03-11 Thread Holger Lillqvist
On Mar 10, Maik Holtkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just spend the weekend by trying to bind edit in compose menu like > the manual told me: > > 6.4.7 > edit e edit the message > > Since mutt did not stop complaining for: > > bind compose edit > > I asked in my di

Re: New mail notify with Maildir "spools"?

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Tatge
Alexander Skwar muttered: > However, I've now "tweaked" the script a little, and it now generates > this: > > =+Daemon_Mails [...] ^^ What is this any way? Use either '+' or '=' but not both. HTH, Michael -- "Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs." (B

Re: decoding quoted-printable attachement names?

2002-03-11 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:15:45PM +0100, Michael Tatge wrote: > Louis-David Mitterrand muttered: > > Hi, > > > > Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names > > > > When trying to save them Mutt doesn't try to decode their name and > > convert them to accented characters. >

Re: orange editor

2002-03-11 Thread Mads Martin Jørgensen
* Todd Kokoszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 11. 2002 13:16]: > Hi, > > I happily use vi as my editor with mutt. However, when I started using > commands like d/. or c/; and the +like (changing or deleting a line > until a specific character), my vi display under mutt changed. Each > +character that

Re: decoding quoted-printable attachement names?

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Tatge
Louis-David Mitterrand muttered: > Hi, > > Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names > > When trying to save them Mutt doesn't try to decode their name and > convert them to accented characters. > > Is there a way to get > > Prévision_tréso.xls > > instead of >

Re: orange editor

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Tatge
Todd Kokoszka muttered: > I happily use vi as my editor with mutt. However, when I started using > commands like d/. or c/; and the like (changing or deleting a line > until a specific character), my vi display under mutt changed. Each > character that I chose became highlighted in orange. Don't

Re: orange editor

2002-03-11 Thread Joel Hammer
Those commands work fine here. No orange stuff. Maybe try: df. or cf; On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:09:48PM +0100, Todd Kokoszka wrote: > Hi, > > I happily use vi as my editor with mutt. However, when I started using commands like >d/. or c/; and the > +like (changing or deleting a line until a sp

Re: Mutt on Mac OS X?

2002-03-11 Thread Ryan Singer
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:15:28AM +0100, Thomas Baker wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > > > Ten years ago I had MKS UUCP with Mailx under DOS 3.3, and this > > > actually worked reasonably well. I am lost without vi/vim. > > > > Not what you want to hear, but any chance you co

Re: decoding quoted-printable attachement names?

2002-03-11 Thread Charles Jie
Hi, I've noticed this problem, too. The worse is that mutt refuses to decode such encoded text in Subject/To/From/Cc if there is intervening spaces. (very sticky to the standard and not tolerant) I use procmail to decode such text by myself before reading mail with mutt. But I only finished the

orange editor

2002-03-11 Thread Todd Kokoszka
Hi, I happily use vi as my editor with mutt. However, when I started using commands like d/. or c/; and the +like (changing or deleting a line until a specific character), my vi display under +mutt changed. Each +character that I chose became highlighted in orange. Today I chose I think the d/.

Re: Mutt won't read inbox

2002-03-11 Thread Simon White
On 10-Mar-02 at 14:14, Jerry Van Brimmer's inspired musing was thus : > I understand that Mutt reads the From line to organize messages. Why is my From > lines so far down in the messages? All of them are the same. Do I need to set > some command in fetchmail, or procmail, or sendmail, or Mutt? T

Re: Mutt won't read inbox

2002-03-11 Thread Jerry Van Brimmer
Here's the way I'm doing things: I'm using fetchmail to fetch the mail which sends it to procmail, which puts it in the mailboxes. At least I htink that's the way it working. My mail dir is: /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox and /home/jerry/muttmail/suse-linux Here is my fetchmail.rc

Re: set hostname

2002-03-11 Thread Mike Erickson
* Sergei Gerasenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm curious about the "set hostname" option. It works > like a charm, no complains, but I'm wondering how it > can work if sendmail doesn't allow to a regular user > to set the "from" line. That is, I run mutt as a > regular user and wi

Re: rfc 2369

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Elkins
Will Yardley wrote: > you could even have commands to 'post to this list', 'followup to this > list', and perhaps even 'subscribe to list'... probably none of these > would be bound by default, but could be interesting. are there any > patches which do something like this? I suspect that unless

Re: Mutt won't read inbox

2002-03-11 Thread Jerry Van Brimmer
Here's the first few lines of the first message: Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from pop3.ispwest.com [216.52.245.18] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jerry@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.gbnet.net (unverifi

compose edit command

2002-03-11 Thread Maik Holtkamp
Hy, I just spend the weekend by trying to bind edit in compose menu like the manual told me: 6.4.7 edit e edit the message Since mutt did not stop complaining for: bind compose edit I asked in my distribution mailing list and there was a guy with the right hint: bin

set hostname

2002-03-11 Thread Sergei Gerasenko
Hi guys, I'm curious about the "set hostname" option. It works like a charm, no complains, but I'm wondering how it can work if sendmail doesn't allow to a regular user to set the "from" line. That is, I run mutt as a regular user and without the "set hostname" opton, my messages have: From: my_

decoding quoted-printable attachement names?

2002-03-11 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
Hi, Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names like (screenshot follows): -- Mutt: Attachments I 1 [text/plain, 8bit, iso-8859-1, 2.9K] A 2 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls?=[appl

Re: How to display texts encoded in UTF-8?

2002-03-11 Thread Charles Jie
Hi, Erika, Thank you for your suggestion. I'll try though I'm not sure they are interested in this application-specific question. In our (of the majority of Taiwanese) platforms, either win32 or linux, we use Big5-based text in daily work instead of unicode. Therefore the locale or codepage is s

orange editor

2002-03-11 Thread Todd Kokoszka
Hi, I happily use Vi for my editing with Mutt, but I have a problem that only exists under mutt, not when I regularly run vi. When I used the commands d/, or c/> and the like (change or delete to a specific character, the display of that specific character became orange. Today I think I did d

Mutt on Mac OS X?

2002-03-11 Thread Thomas Baker
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > > I have happily used (and still use) Pine under Unix. Since I work > > with project partners that use MS-Office and other WIN2000 programs, > > however, I now have to move primarily to a Windows environment. I > > work alot from home or on the road, li

Re: Problems sending large attachments

2002-03-11 Thread Simon White
On 10-Mar-02 at 11:03, Johannes Franken's inspired musing was thus : > Try reducing the mtu-value in /etc/ppp/options . You might also want > to put in some hayes commands to turn off hardware data compression, > which may be broken on your card. If the problem persists, have a look > at http://s