gh to let us know you really
care enough to get our attention.
(might want to set your system clock properly, too.)
Nick.
doesn't work, what is up, unwiredbsd, rtsol etc?
You did it wrong.
Most likely, that's not your nwid or wpakey. And you probably don't
have a .if interface.
Based on the information you provided, that's all I can or will say.
Nick.
o stack two of them, but should be doable.
Nick.
developers...I just have memories of certain Debian devs who thought the
same thing once ... Crypto is hard, have some trust in the
professionals, or you will probably create far bigger security problems.
Nick.
On 03/11/15 18:59, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> On 2015-03-11, Nick Holland wrote:
>
>> As for the general premise of thinking you know more than the OpenSSH
>> developers...I just have memories of certain Debian devs who thought the
>> same thing once ... Crypto is
worked fine.
>
> It seems this machine does not like Linux.
...
*looking around* As this is an OpenBSD list, I think it sounds like it
is working just fine. ;)
Nick.
your monitor. If this is the cause, you could disable radeondrm
> with config(8)..
or as has often been the case with some drm configs, if no monitor is
attached at boot it just doesn't work with /any/ known monitor. Same
fix, but as I've run around and plugged some pretty capable and tolerant
monitors into these "dead" video ports, I wouldn't spend a lot of time
looking for a "better" monitor.
Nick.
me in concatenation (.) or string at
> /usr/libexec/security line 434.
> Use of uninitialized value $home in concatenation (.) or string at
> /usr/libexec/security line 434.
> Use of uninitialized value $home in concatenation (.) or string at
> /usr/libexec/security line 434.
Stunning lack of information, but sounds like you botched an upgrade
somewhere.
Nick.
jump through hoops that cost lots of money and provide no
benefit to anyone?
Besides, the artwork and stickers in the CD sets are great. Really.
I've been buying CDs since 2.6, and I look forward to getting every
single one. And this is from someone who works with the project and
pays the same price everyone else does (and historically, usually got it
AFTER many of you guys are bragging about getting yours).
Nick.
u can
hopefully mount most of them R/O, and not have to worry about fsck times
at all.
Nick.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Eric Furman wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 07:10 AM, Илья Шипицин wrote:
>> ÓÒÅÄÁ, 10 ÏËÔÑÂÒÑ 2012 Ç. ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ Nick
Holland
> ÐÉÓÁÌ:
>>
>> > how it supposed
>> >> to work for non-nfs filesystems ?
>> >
old system (look ma! no copying
terabytes of data!).
I know some people trying to manage many terabytes of fast-moving data
in one chunk. They started with FreeBSD and ZFS, but had problems with
it (and a definite Linux bias), so they jumped to Linux, but again are
finding Big File Systems are difficult. Would be so much easier for so
many reasons if they just "chunked" their data across multiple file
systems... Ah well...
Nick.
in a new one, install to it, bring it up.
Problem that takes you outside your downage window? revert to original
disk.
Nick.
pretty much ready for release? I figured I'd take some time to look over it
> ahead of time.
>
usually, posted somewhat earlier than this. :-/
I hope to have upgrade52.html done and committed Very Soon.
Nick.
On 10/21/12 07:29, Rares Aioanei wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:05:20 -0400
> Nick Holland wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/12 23:25, Matt Morrow wrote:
>> > Does anyone know when the upgrade guides are usually posted? I know
>> > we're a couple of weeks away
he 5.2 media?
>
> You are now running bleeding edge software/what will evolve and become
> 5.3. "Upgrading" this machine to 5.2 will actually be a downgrade and
> this is unsupported.
>
exactly.
Please read the start of http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html
Nick.
On 10/31/2012 07:17 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
/ Nick Holland wrote on Wed 31.Oct'12 at 7:03:48 -0400 /
On 10/31/12 00:13, Daniel Melameth wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Matt M.
wrote:
Yesterday I upgraded from 5.1-release to -current. Is there any
need to upgrade t
On 11/03/12 10:29, Hrvoje Popovski wrote:
> Hello,
>
> last few days I want to update the lastest current from cvs
um. no. You compile for giggles, you update from binary.
> (ftp5.eu.openbsd.org or anoncvs.spacehopper.org) and I allways had this
> error.
...
> # dmesg
> OpenBSD 5.2-current (GEN
cards splattered all over the 'net? Well, I
can say with confidence, compromise was involved -- between good design
and an arbitrary deadline, between good design and pretty pictures,
between good design by a skilled (and expensive) programmer and the
$5/day that a programmer in Elbonia charged.
Nick.
rms/. Under the cover, they are more similar
than sparc64 and amd64, perhaps, but they are still /different platforms/.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#amd64i386bin
Nick.
On 11/24/12 08:26, bofh wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Nick Holland
> wrote:
>> On 11/22/12 09:58, bofh wrote:
>>> Can I just run install -> upgrade and install everything but etc.tgz
>>> and xetc.tgz? Any post installation stuff I have to worry about
estions. The dmesg tells us what is in
your machine, how it is connected, and sometimes, an idea of what went
wrong.
Nick.
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Michał Markowski
> wrote:
>
>> 2012/11/29 Tony Berth :
>> > s a fresh install! I couldn't find a CD image
lar manufacturer
switched to OpenSSH in a later version of their products. I talked to
them about why they used SSH.com's product (and had a separate license
key in place just for it) rather than OpenSSH. It appears it was
something of an internal question; no one still there was quite sure why
they did that.
Nick.
what you think you are serving (i.e., your tftp server
isn't configured like you think it is).
Nick.
ht.
Hey, why don't we have a crypto-ls? It's really important! What if
someone is looking over your shoulder when you do an 'ls'?
Nick.
about as non-modern as OpenBSD/i386 supports. Seriously.
That's a 4x clock multiplied 486.
The only things less modern and supported are 3x, 2x, and 1x 486 chips.
The machines I have seen those chips in have difficulty pumping that
much data, ignoring encryption (though in large part, I suspect, due to
the crappy NIC chips).
Nick.
On 12/19/12 00:50, Robert Connolly wrote:
> Assuming you have read what is out there, I have a technigur
>
and the margin was too small...
ode of the SATA ports to AHCI ("enhanced" "good" "non-sucky" no
idea what they'll call it). You will know you are in AHCI mode if your
disks come up as "sd" rather than "wd" devices.
Nick.
d7819c0c85,sd4:ef8be159ad6b717f,sd5:eb3971fada5612b9,sd6:e4fc87e6abfa5e45,sd7:e92e54806f9e4124
In case you are wondering...that's a six physical disks and a couple
softraid disks on a sun e250.
(do a "sysctl hw" on your machine...in many cases, you will be amazed)
Or use duids, and don't worry 'bout names. Keep reading in the above
link. :)
Nick.
x
month old one is still quite good)
* future complete solution replacements. (*)
the simplest possible solutions that will accomplish the above within
acceptable business frameworks (i.e., not "we'll have our entire IT
staff working a major multi-day holiday because that's the only
applications.
Or just build yourself a usb disk. MUCH more useful, 'cept for really
old machines which don't boot from USB.
Nick.
On 12/25/12 19:50, Eric Furman wrote:
> Not long ago Nick did go into some detail about this very thing.
> I don't remember how long ago or what the thread was about,
> but you might find it in the archives.
> Just search for Nick Holland. Anything you find will be worth
>
of my systems to
replace the apache-derived httpd, and it was pretty darned simple, so
we'll have to see if OpenBSD-specific Questions end up being Frequently
Asked...but I have no desire for OpenBSD.org to become a primary source
of information about generic nginx usage.
Nick.
hundreds of MB.
Obviously a few things need to be left out or minimized. Every byte
counts on the install images, it really does.
Now, if you really mean someone's "live CD", then yes, maybe you have
grounds to complain...to them, not to us.
Nick.
on the main site already.
Nick.
h to retain. You aren't marking "don't reformat"
partitions, you need to mark where all partitions will be mounted,
leaving out the ones you wish to retain.
After you complete your install, edit your /etc/fstab to point to your
old /home partition, mount it (I'd suggest a reboot), done.
btw: you will want to practice this locally on a "test" system first.
Nick.
On 12/27/2012 07:48 AM, lilit-aibolit wrote:
On 12/27/2012 02:24 PM, Nick Holland wrote:
On 12/27/12 05:57, lilit-aibolit wrote:
On 12/27/2012 12:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Le 2012-12-27 14:15, lilit-aibolit a écrit :
Hello misc.
I have a /home at old system and I want
to install new one from
in
blank again after restarting. I think the faq may include the guideline
to make it persistent as well.
um. it does...
in 15.2.2, in fact.
Nick.
On 12/27/12 17:25, Jiri B wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 03:26:43PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
>> Probably thinking of this thread:
>> http://marc.info/?t=117689108200011&r=1&w=2
>> and my two contributions to it. A number of other people provided some
>>
ther OSs to their platform, which is, of course, their
right...but it is also our right to not show great interest in the
system for that reason.
Nick.
thing is to decide for yourself exactly what "manage" means, then
work out the tools that can help. But when you have lots of similar
machines, things need not be difficult.
Nick.
rk-smarter-not-harder-roll-your-own-openbsd-ram-disk/
>>
>
> My goal with this email was rather aimed to suggest growfs be included,
> or to ask why it isn't, I've found I can easily mount /, copy growfs,
> and umount / as a quick workaround anyway.
space is at a premium on the ramdisk kernels. Since there's a "quick
workaround", I think I'll take drivers or other things where there is no
workaround...
Nick.
tes to learn how it
works before you need it.
Nick.
riving
by, laughing at you for sitting on the curb crying about the lack of
your favorite tool.
Nick.
hanging their $PATH and/or adding things to $HOME/bin... or doing
it on their own, and wondering why YOUR script blew up shortly after
they installed their own custom 'cp' command, and put it in their path
before your silly, boring system 'cp'...
Nick.
understand some basic tools that
we try to keep normal people from having to use. The info for figuring
out how to do that is all in the OpenBSD FAQ, though not in recipe form.)
Nick.
en. Note: P2V by raw disk image
is not my recommended way of doing it, but I find the ability to do it
shows how darned nifty OpenBSD is about things like this.
Nick.
BSD (or Linux, or ...), and you would
probably find a simple elegance unrivaled in the free software world.
After doing some FreeBSD work for my day-job, my primary reaction to
FreeBSD is, "well, beats Linux", but geez they really need to be
looking over our shoulders more than we need to be looking over theirs.
Nick.
rting to see what you mean by undue burdon (why would you add
> something new if what is being used right now works just fine?) I will
> have to have a look at marc.info and see what I can find on the topic on
> binary updates there also. Nick your right I should stop trying to make
> Op
we
have a machine with four vr(4) interfaces ..." would work just fine. I
see Stuart did this.
While I personally love the "Reboot and voila", I'm always concerned
about how non-English/French readers would handle this -- does a Chinese
person reading the FAQ understand this? I'm hopelessly monolingual, so
maybe I worry about the wrong things here (and this from the guy who
"re-styled" the FAQ as the Hitchhiker's Guide / Bugbuster's Guide, so
what do I know? :)
but...good work, thanks!
Nick.
GENERIC with
> every drivers, that attach to isa, not in RAMDISK disabled and it
> and/or schsio re-enabled fails. Beside this, my Compaq Presario 433
> works fine. It's my only OpenBSD computer running 24/7 and
> occasionally does NFS/Diskless server duty.]
>
An fyi: you will probably find that (near) future OpenBSD versions will
not run on machines with less than 32M RAM. The kernel will be moved up
to the 16M point, to allow space for ISA DMA buffers, so stripping the
kernel of "unneeded" drivers won't get you below 16M (and probably not
below 24M).
Nick.
ecause that's how you learn to avoid them. You can't
just hand people computers and say "click away!" and expect technology
to keep them safe.
The usual response I get from doubters of my statement: "You can't train
everyone to never make a mistake" My response: we don't even try to
train people. The "technology will save us" is CLEARLY not true.
And this is wy off topic for this list...
Nick.
27;ve usually seen it used as a way to avoid good system design. Yes,
huge file systems can be useful, but usually in papering over basic
design flaws.
Nick.
s.
And, you don't use the 'c' partition as a file system. ever. Just
don't. (and for those in the peanut gallery who say, "but I got away
with it!", no, it just didn't bite you yet).
See FAQ14...
you can skip the "-O2", unless you are making an under-sized partition
you may later want to growfs to FFS2 size.
Nick.
ypto at ISP link speeds is
completely insufficient for what you probably want out of disk speeds.)
'course, since you SNIPPED YOUR DMESG, it could probably be a lot of
other things too... (hint: if you are so sure you know the minimal
amount of info we need to resolve your problem, you can undoubtedly
solve your own problem)
Nick.
t; If zeroing and recreating the metadata fails to solve the issue, I can
> provide
> a diff that adds some debug info.
I just took my pair of test 3TB disks (thanks to the donor!) and
verified that, if zeroed first, there is no issue setting up a (most of)
3TB RAID1 via softraid.
Nick.
utting too many big locks
on the secure door...and neglecting the open window next to it.
Nick.
uning the system for "optimal
performance" when you aren't coming anywhere close to maxing anything
out (hey, I've done it, often to pathetically comical results, myself).
It is also absolutely trivial to test these things yourself... One BIOS
setting, a choice in kernels.
Nick.
1a:/bsd"
and any other "hd*a" that shows up before the boot prompt. If it boots,
you have proven OpenBSD is compatible with your machine. If you needed
to tell it hd1a or hd2a, then your BIOS is trying to boot from the wrong
device.
If that doesn't work, boot from the CD in ahci mode, and show us what
the output of "fdisk sd0" looks like.
Nick.
is something I should be able to walk a
non-technical person through over the phone (i.e., secretary, janitor.
Not managers, I have given up walking them through things).
This Just Works on OpenBSD. It doesn't work easily in most other OSs.
Nick.
ble"?
If you want things just like Linux, I'd suggest you run Linux.
If you have a real problem, let us know...but "things not like Linux" is
generally considered a "Thank goodness" moment around here.
(hint: soft updates. See FAQ 14)
Nick.
o waste too much time on this)
That's assuming a healthy install thought process. Nothing stops you
from installing xshareXX.tgz without the rest of X, but it would be silly.
Really, if you care about it, just (re)install everything. It will still
be smaller than almost anything else.
Nick.
ecause
it is supposed to be wireless. What do I do with it besides stare at
the boot messages? I love dmesg porn as much as anyone, but... uhm.
after a certain point, you memorize it and it stops being interesting.
Nick.
r calling you up to find out why...and look at the
headers and see that more than one thing seems to have gone wrong...and
there are twenty other people on hold right now, each with different
problems)
Nick.
e not universal.
The reader in my netbook Just Works (though it has to be in place at
boot, otherwise the reader isn't powered), I unload my camera's cards
with a SD->USB adapter.
Nick.
want to run X on it, as these are graphical machines, they have a
fantastic keyboard, a mouse that was DESIGNED for X, and clip along
pretty well once X is running, and X configuration Just Works...even if
just as a bunch of Xterms. Don't run firefox on it, though...
Nick.
quite
skeptical that we have a "just works" with OpenBSD solution here.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
If it's true, this would be way-cool, but I'm not selling my air
conditioners yet.
Prove me wrong, I'll thank you.
Nick.
r whatever config you use
> cd ../compile/GENERIC # or GENERIC.MP or ...
> make clean
>
>
> --
> Michał Markowski
>
yep, fixed, thanks!
Nick.
* Many of the "features" of alternatives are not desired in the OpenBSD
development model.
Obviously, it is possible to build a quality-focused product of
Operating System magnitude using CVS. I don't think one can quite say
CVS is the REASON for OpenBSD's quality, but it obviously hasn't hurt.
Nick.
-brief.pdf)
if that's helpful at all.
Below is my dmesg with an external (eSATA) drive connected.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
-Nick
OpenBSD 5.3-current (GENERIC) #121: Thu Apr 4 09:42:08 MDT 2013
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 1022230528 (
On 04/29/13 00:00, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
> On 2013-04-20 23:32, Nick Holland wrote:
>> On 04/20/13 03:42, Alokat MacMoneysack wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > first, I don't want to start a flame war about why is CVS better or
>> > not better than
he OSs you are trying to
multiboot). But once that was done, the OpenBSD install will only use
the OpenBSD fdisk partition by default unless you push it elsewhere.
But from that point onwards, no, I do not recommend people follow your
process.
Nick.
- and
usually putting it at the end of the disk so less capable OSs will have
a place to install.
back to the topic at hand: changing the install process does not impact
this one bit. If your BIOS has a problem, it has a problem. I have
several machines which multiboot with OpenBSD loaded after 128GB.
Nick.
(1)
> command has many options, some of them are required to
> checkout and update a useful tree.
> Other commands can cause a broken tree.
Yep, I'd agree with that. Committed, thanks!
Nick.
e over the computer and control its operation dates
back...well, pretty much to the dawn of computers (i.e., hardware
debuggers. If you can REMOVE bug with hardware, you can certainly
insert them).
In fact, about five seconds after someone says "Firewire has DIRECT
MEMORY ACCESS", I think you should say, "oh. baad idea" (those five
seconds were spent wondering if there was a use of "DMA" that applies
here that you weren't thinking of).
Nick.
rowser) and bsd is
binary (never display, just download)?
Nick.
(waiting for a well-deserved "rtfm ...")
(and grumpy about this CP/M-MSDOS concept of "extension" on Unix ...)
be not... :-/
file(1), no, though I'll admit it crossed my mind -- briefly. I was
thinking more along the lines of globbing or (IFF it could be done
safely and efficiently) RegEx, or even significantly subsetted regex.
Nick.
nt?
On new DRM capable cards, yes.
And, looking at your dmesg ... oh wait, you haven't provided us one.
Nick.
")
Now...inside that directory, you can create writable directories.
There is a reason for this (of course) -- you don't want your chroot
user creating a /etc and /dev et al. directories which could be
influencing other chroot'ed applications.
Nick.
pler". though I admit if I
saw this on a machine without understanding why, I'd think unpleasant
things about the administrator. :)
Nick.
> Am 01.05.2015 um 15:15 schrieb Nick Holland:
>> On 05/01/15 07:07, Markus Rosjat wrote:
>>> hi there,
>>>
>>>
for the heads up
>
> I'll light a candle in the window and wait in the rocking chair for the
> Prodigal Puffy
The Blues Fish will be at the leading edge of the most amazing car chase
you have ever seen! :)
Nick.
lly want one authoritative source.
Unfortunately, he's been posting a lot of his "experiences" which
involve reinventing wheels with some really oddly shapes and making some
simple things complicated. That's not helpful.
Nick.
> Il 07/mag/2015 10:43, "Jiri B"
ng PC about OpenBSD is ... a couple target platforms. :)
Nick.
(making note to offend more in the future)
0 channel 0: reset failed for drive 0
> wd0a: device timeout writing fsbn 16 of 16-31 (wd0 bn 80; cn 0 tn 1 sn 17),
> retrying
I think you will find this applies:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#i386flash
Nick.
to submit his bug report.
> Obviously you can't use
> href="http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sendbug&sektion=1";>sendbug(1)
> when your system won't boot, but you should use it whenever possible.
yep, thanks!
Nick.
l getting through. If it is 10% idle vs. 20% idle,
you have the wrong hardware and are having (or soon will have) problems.
Nick.
log style combined
}
location "/priv/*" {
authenticate with "/htpasswd"
}
}
seems to be a "no op" -- never seems to prompt for the uid/pw.
I'm sure whatever I'm missing is stupidly simple, but not sure what it
is ...
Nick.
file.
> Currently it just silently fails. Should be at least a warning.
send diff. :D
But yeah, I found lots of ways to make errors and get unexpected results
from those errors. On the other hand, the apache config file and I
never were best of buddies, either.
Thanks!
Nick.
ays, that was true for the project.
Today, that "art" consists of stories, music, and written commentary,
which is perhaps better represented on the Lyrics page.
(that, and the "art*.html" pages haven't seen much maintenance in a
while. If you are looking for current stuff, lyrics.html is much better)
Nick.
as used to build these
snapshots", and that would be wrong. And...if you want to download the
entire -current source tree, just do it with cvs(1).
> Should this be mentioned in the documentation or is it just me?
5.1, under "Snapshots" kinda covers this, I think.
Nick.
On 06/07/15 22:57, bytevolc...@safe-mail.net wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:27:05 -0400
> Nick Holland wrote:
...
>> Where did you get these source files? Just checked the ones on the
>> mirrors, they do not have such a tag on them. I'll check the
>> CDs..um...
pt and
restore a machine regardless of of the purpose and operation of the
machine, you probably are going to be stuck using dump over an ssh link.
All the OS specific issues are managed on the machine being backed up,
all that ends up on your Linux machine is a big file that can be pumped
back over ssh to do a restore.
Downside: those dump files are not very useful for anything other than
restores.
Nick.
On 06/15/15 12:54, Liviu Daia wrote:
> On 15 June 2015, Nick Holland wrote:
> [...]
>> In the first case, an rsync-based backup is probably almost impossible
>> to beat. Combine with the --link-dest option (google for it. the
>> man page is accurate, but you won't
point
that the system death-spirals as queries come in faster than they are
answered. (this is why when you have an imbalanced redundant pair of
machines, the faster machine should always be the standby machine, not
the primary. Sometimes "Does the same job just slower" is still quite
effectively "down").
Nick.
On 06/19/15 13:38, andrew fabbro wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Nick Holland
wrote:
been meaningless for some time). When the disk runs out of places to
write the good data, it throws a permanent write error back to the OS
and you have a really bad day. The only difference in this
ncrypted, this can work -- but the os will probably have to be on
non-encrypted space, and you will activate the encrypted space
post-boot. Maybe that's useful to you, maybe not. In general, I don't
like systems that don't boot to a fully-functional state on their own.
Nick.
ually, if you are intent on doing this wrong, you might be able to
use the "location" key word to call a CGI script when you try to fetch
index.txt...but again, this is (in my opinion) the wrong way to do THIS
task)
Nick.
problem report makes me
sure of that.
Nick.
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> Nick.
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(wtf? and it's even weirder looking in my outmail box. sorry for the
noise)
mentioned. You made up your own process, and blamed the documentation.
The documentation is correct, and the first paragraph of this section is
written for people like you.
Bye. Don't let the CDROM drawer smack you on the butt on the way out.
Nick.
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