Re: [www.openbsd.org] faster machines and scareware

2012-07-28 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>btw, I hope no one minds if I plug OpenBSD's website in the subject. this is a >method of trying to get the site back up to better rankings in google. AFAIK, and few _really_ know, Google rankings use an acyclic graph with cumulative "credibility" weights. Say a NY Times article points to a web

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Calomel is ranked 2 on google because it has been linked several hundred >times from this list. Google doesn't know about good/bad opinions or >flamewars. Google only cares about the "reputation" of the origin of the >link. I don't think that's true; google "link:calomel.org -site:calomel.org" to

Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known >issue. > >Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works: >mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After resume >there's no power in any usb port. USB 3.0 interface are capable of supplying

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Ted Unangst [t...@tedunangst.com] wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:53, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> >> > /reference/, they're not meant to solve high-level problems. The FAQs are >> > really are no FAQs at all but a gigantic snowball with floppy install &

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:24:31PM +0200, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> >That said, the attitude you're displaying does no one any favors: nobody'ss >> >here to make you feel special; either you're willing to put in the work >> >or you aren't. &g

Re: Calomel.org sucks ass

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 07/26/12 03:04, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>> Everytime you follow a non official documentation, you waste your time >>> and the developer's time, we're not cranky about "calomel" only, we're >>> cranky about people following unofficia

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>That said, the attitude you're displaying does no one any favors: nobody'ss >here to make you feel special; either you're willing to put in the work >or you aren't. Who the fuck do you think you are to use that tone? The royal "we"? Are those mutual favors a currency I can trade for a cash? Will

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> The site can look butt-ugly (or wikimedia-bland) but needs a >> semi-official stamp of approval instead of blinking red THIS IS NOT >> AFFILIATED WITH OPENBSD.ORG!!! > >Set up the site, make it work. Approval will come. Other way around. I got better things to do than start a project obsd mai

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 07/26/12 03:53, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>> Apparently calomel is full of bad and/or outdated advice for openbsd, >>> especially the sysctl tuning stuff. >>> >>> Your best advice is to follow the official FAQ's on openbsd.org, and >>

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Everytime you follow a non official documentation, you waste your time >and the developer's time, we're not cranky about "calomel" only, we're >cranky about people following unofficial documentation, remember, our >FAQ and manpages are accurate 99.99% of the time and they are pretty >well written

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> Here's a better idea I'm putting out there to see how fast it gets shot >> down: openbsd-wiki.org, with a rule that whoever gets a question answered on >> misc has to add an entry with the cleaned reply. It'd do wonders for misc's >> signal/noise because lazy fucks, retards and trolls would t

Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Apparently calomel is full of bad and/or outdated advice for openbsd, >especially the sysctl tuning stuff. > >Your best advice is to follow the official FAQ's on openbsd.org, and >read openbsd man pages to learn your techniques. > >Maybe there needs to be a calomel faq on openbsd.org. Here's a be

Re: minimal radio streamer on Alix LX800 gateway?

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >> >That looks like the most difficult part, because offhand I have no >> >idea how to interface those input devices with a tty. >> >> The point is not to need tty or network client/server messaging. I query >> a USB device dir

Re: minimal radio streamer on Alix LX800 gateway?

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >> Ok I'm looking at madplay since most other players seem to depend on >> madlib anyway. > >madplay doesn't support streaming or interactive controls. The >madlib-based mpg321 does, and eats about twice as much CPU as mpg123 >

Re: minimal radio streamer on Alix LX800 gateway?

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 07:06:21PM +0200, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> >Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> > >> >> I want to set up a minimal mp3 Internet radio streamer directly on my >> >> PPPoE ADSL modem so it doesn't travel through the rest o

Re: minimal radio streamer on Alix LX800 gateway?

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Jul 23 11:00:19, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> I want to set up a minimal mp3 Internet radio streamer directly on my Alix >> Geode 500 MHz gateway. The idea is to grab the data closest to my PPPoE ADSL >> modem so it doesn't travel through the rest of the LAN and poll

Re: minimal radio streamer on Alix LX800 gateway?

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >> I want to set up a minimal mp3 Internet radio streamer directly on my >> PPPoE ADSL modem so it doesn't travel through the rest of the LAN and >> pollute logs, > >I don't understand that rationale. For Internet radio to feel

minimal radio streamer on Alix LX800 gateway?

2012-07-23 Thread Peter Laufenberg
I want to set up a minimal mp3 Internet radio streamer directly on my Alix Geode 500 MHz gateway. The idea is to grab the data closest to my PPPoE ADSL modem so it doesn't travel through the rest of the LAN and pollute logs, assuming the decoder daemon is secure and not too demanding on the Alix

Re: vesafb and vesabios

2012-07-21 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Enabling either option VESAFB or the vesabios device without the other results >in i386 kernel build failure. This patch works around the problem by removing >#ifdef VESAFB in favor of NVESABIOS > 0. > >Feedback welcome, especially if consensus is that I'm wasting my time on this >class of error

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> My yahoo account separates out the many list mails. I sometimes feel a >Th problem is not yahoo but all such services. Yahoo, gmail, hotmail, >@wp.pl etc... are all here to control people. nothing else. > >You should avoid every large corporation touching your private data. But... they're free

Re: Fuloong: how to boot single user mode from pmon?

2012-07-17 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> how can loongson 3 be (roughly) compared to x86 CPUs in performance? > >It's slower. A hell lot slower. > >3A systems are running at around 1GHz. The x86 code translation stuff >was benchmark-only and, to the best of my knowledge, has never been made >public (with full source code and acceptable

Re: amd unmounting

2012-07-17 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Can anyone help with a little amd problem? > >I have some partitions on SSD and some on HD and would like to use >amd(8) so that the HD filesystems are only mounted on-demand, reducing >fsck time in a crash. > >I've got them mounting OK... > >$ cat /etc/amd/master >-c 60 -x all -l syslog /a bamboo

Re: Fuloong: how to boot single user mode from pmon?

2012-07-17 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:00:06PM +0200, Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >> >On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:00:12AM +, John Long wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:10:33PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:50:28A

Re: Fuloong: how to boot single user mode from pmon?

2012-07-17 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:00:12AM +, John Long wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:10:33PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:50:28AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >> > >> > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 09:09:54AM +, John Long wrote: >> > > >> >> > I see now th

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 2012-06-27 19:25, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg >>> wrote: >>>> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional >> graphic >>> designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's v

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-29 Thread Peter Laufenberg
what kind of shit are we talking about here? Scheisster baby eat my caviar turds or sinewy shrimp intestines you have to swallow wholesale lest being called a fag? Don't leave this up for interpretation or commentators unaware of Tourette syndrome tax deductions will /again/ quote out of contex

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. > >It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for >all ports. > >Currently, it's a static port. It could very well be a dynamic application. > >You can experiment with css, you can experiment with nginx. >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg [open...@laufenberg.ch] wrote: >> >> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional graphic >> designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: >> >> www.flexstudio.ch >> >> Richar

Re: OpenBSD's webpage design

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg [open...@laufenberg.ch] wrote: >> >> Richard's not a web designer; he's a graphic designer. He put his portfolio >> on blogspot after I commented that downloading a single, enormous PDF kindof >> sucked, and I didn't know of a CMS tha

Re: OpenBSD's webpage design

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> >> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were >> >> updated. Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirty work of >> >> actually coming up with a functional design and then updating the >>

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
well as references to floppies and tapes in the docs are spot on. Seriously. -- p >On 06/27/12 17:58, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>>> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were >>>> updated. Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirt

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>TLDR: It's not your place to tell others what they like. Am I? It's not about one individual likes, it's about whether your messages reaches a majority of your audience. Most of the filtering is subconscious and immune to fashion btw. >On 28 June 2012 07:59, Peter Lau

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg >wrote: >> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional graphic >designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: > >that would be cool to presence as a bystander No

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were >> updated. Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirty work of >> actually coming up with a functional design and then updating the >> HTML. >> >> Talk is cheap. I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a profess

Re: Hardware/System Question

2012-06-22 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>  I'm looking for a small system that I can run ftp, web, personal mail and >maybe a build enviroment.  I say small system only due to space requirements.  >A normal desktop computer or small would work well.  This is one that I was >looking at but not sure if it would be i386 since it is an embed

Re: ASUS E35M1-M PRO Fusion AMD E-350 APU

2012-06-22 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>I used a brand new ASUS motherboard I referred to in the subject with the AMD >Fusion APU and associated chipset(s) with OpenBSD 5.1 i386. This ran well for >a few days but ultimately dropped to ddb> repeatedly when i copied several >gigabyte of files from one SATA disk to a softraid mirror of tw

Re: OpenBSD as IPv4+6 gateway

2012-06-22 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 6/21/12 7:52 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:39:24 -0500, Rod Whitworth >> wrote: >> >>> It is not a "school of thought" - it is how it is. I have seen one /126 >>> out in the wild but it is very lonely. >> >> I work at an ISP/datacenter. We use /126s for the link net. Handing

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-20 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Jay Patel wrote: >> Hi all users, >> >> I am users too.  Thanks cody. I am learning C too. from "C primus >> plus" any thoughts from devs. which we should read? > >Udacity.com had a good python class. Intro, from zero background, to >writing a mini-google (crawl

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-20 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Jay Patel wrote: >> Hi all users, >> >> I am users too.  Thanks cody. I am learning C too. from "C primus >> plus" any thoughts from devs. which we should read? > >Udacity.com had a good python class. Intro, from zero background, to >writing a mini-google (crawl

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-18 Thread Peter Laufenberg
geez, it's a /segway/ -- p >Dont steal the thread. >On Jun 18, 2012 9:55 AM, "Peter Laufenberg" wrote: > >> speaking of stuck CAPSLOCK, anyone else having DEL/INS problems on US >> keyboards w/ Euro key on 5? They're cheapo USB Dell manufactured by >&

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-18 Thread Peter Laufenberg
speaking of stuck CAPSLOCK, anyone else having DEL/INS problems on US keyboards w/ Euro key on 5? They're cheapo USB Dell manufactured by Logitech. Tweaking wscons flags didn't help (not running X11); should I remap keys individually? -- p >NO. GPL IS COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE TO TRUE FREE SOFTWARE. >

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-17 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Funny thing is, I've never been upset about the 20+ OpenBSD and >ex-OpenBSD developers who now work for google. Do they still work on OpenBSD and contribute back? -- p

Re: Solid state disk geometry

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:31:38 +0200 >Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >> >Some SSD controllers use compression > >I wonder if they use the average compression ratio to boost advertised >capacity? Define "average" :) Nah that'd be too obvious given SSDs are of

Re: Solid state disk geometry

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 2012-06-12, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>>On 06/11/12 19:25, Jens A. Griepentrog wrote: >>>> Let me know, please, whether it makes sense to modify disk geometry >>>> for solid state disks? >>> >>>If you knew what physical block size your SSD

Re: Solid state disk geometry

2012-06-11 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 06/11/12 19:25, Jens A. Griepentrog wrote: >> Let me know, please, whether it makes sense to modify disk geometry >> for solid state disks? > >If you knew what physical block size your SSD worked with, you might -- >MIGHT -- see some benefit using that, but the 4k offsets seem to work >just fin

Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Peter Laufenberg >wrote: >> Qemu seems like a good project given the flack it gets on wikipedia (very >> Cartesian, I know), how well can it run on OpenBSD? what's holding it back? >> which kernel improvements/patches will help?

Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:35:50AM +0800, z_axis wrote: >> I know wine port has been stopped. I wonder whether or not it is >> applicable to port wine to OpenBSD ? >> Wine works great on FreeBSD, why cannot it run on OpenBSD ? > >Somebody has to resolve the issues in the code :) > >Take it from p

Re: PHP issue with native Apache and ProxyPass

2012-06-06 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>I wanted to proxyfy another WordPress instance, running on a remote OpenBSD >5.1 installation. >So far, the remote installation works like a charm. > >But when I configure the reverse-proxy, URL with PHP files and variables >aren't managed properly. > >The remote website is located on http://192.1

Re: No audio on auvia0 / "VIA VT8233 AC97"

2012-06-05 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>>Also try 44100 Hz. > >I tried but audioctl will not let me lower the Hz rate below 48000 Hz. Probably the native freq but it's strange it'd interpolate in software. >> >Is there something else I can try before getting a PCI soundcard? >> >> Update BIOS and any other firmware. > >As far as I kn

Re: No audio on auvia0 / "VIA VT8233 AC97"

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Not 100% sure from the logs but you've got a lot of mixer channels muted, maybe PCM isn't getting amped. Also try 44100 Hz. >I don't have windows available to update bios You probably don't need Windows, just a boot CD like from PE Builder, Ultimate Boot CD, etc. Intel and Dell also have some I

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present >> itself as defender of freedom, but it's really an evolution of PCs >> running black-box code when and where it can do most harm. > >In fac

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present >> itself as defender of freedom I meant that sarcastically -- p

Re: apmd closes/crashes on lid close

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
dump "xset -q" and "wsconsctl -a", compare working/non-working states, check for possible race condition? -- p >"xset dpms 5 10 15" isn't doing anything either, nor "xset s 4". > >On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Robert Connolly < >robertconnolly1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sometimes apmd crashes

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-03 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Of course, it isn't /quite/ that simple. GPT is still fairly new, and >whilst it's not too difficult to get a number of operating systems to boot >from GPT, sharing a disk has a number of gotchas. Exposing dormant OpenBSD partitions to an untrusted OS is stupid unless you have no other choice li

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-03 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> 2012/6/1 Tyler Morgan : >> > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive >> >> That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives >2TB. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table >> >> Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB drive on an UEFI system? > >Try to buy systems th

Re: Thinkpad T60 "sticky touchpad" (amd64/5.1-stable)

2012-05-31 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T60 amd64 laptop (dmesg below) running 5.1-stable >(fresh install of -release from the CD set, then CVS update to -stable). >The touchpad > > pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) > wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 > wsmouse1 at pms0 mux 0 > pms0: Synaptics touchpad, firmware 6.2 > >has an

Re: (Kinda O.T.) Digital Millennium Copyright Act used to censor hardware specifications

2012-05-31 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:11, Brett wrote: > >> Pursuant to a rights owner notice under the Digital Millennium Copyright >> Act (DMCA), the Wikimedia Foundation acted under the law and took down and >> restricted the content in question. A copy of the received notice can be > >> Reverse engineeri

Re: realtek 8188ce "not configured"

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Lenovo won't let me replace the Realtek 8188CE mini-pci card that came >with it with another. The hardware refuses to boot with an >"unauthorized network card detected" or somesuch error (brilliant!). > >What are the chances of getting this card working with obsd? :) bios-mods.com has high-wire p

Re: Plan 9 to OpenBSD (Was Re: OpenBSD in April's issue of the CACM)

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Laufenberg
gprivacy to mask your MAC on ipv6 sockets), pf is unmatched, etc. The only thing I miss is an X-less framebuffer in OpenBSD even it'd support just a console and text editor. IMHO X has to die, it's a huge pile of crap. -- p >Hi, > >Peter Laufenberg wrote on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 07:

Re: OpenBSD in April's issue of the CACM

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Laufenberg
on a year ago cause they were wasting my time on the crapper (admittedly quality reading time:) > From: Peter Laufenberg [mailto:pe...@x.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:28 PM > To: xx...@acm.org > Subject: Re: Welcome to your second year as an ACM member! > > Hi, &g

Re: Notebook

2012-05-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>I installed VLC, and my webcam works, but my microphone does not seem to be >detected at all. dmesg does not list a usb audio device. What should I do >to investigate this? Is there a better application, other than VLC, for >using a webcam with OpenBSD? Before you install X/KDE, etc., do a vanill

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >> My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions >> spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional "technique" used in >> in the past. > >But that's for targeted surveillance. They still ca

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>car + eimer? ay carambas?!! "Autoeimer", with unlimited strcat() known to overflow students' brains. Yes the "Bundestrojaner". I pictured a fat politician's soggy condom on the back of his doggy-style mistress: "one for the country!" Mild stuff considering German pr0n culture. -- p >On Thu,

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly >in German only) on www.golem.de My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional "technique" used in in the past. -- p

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Outstanding point. The thing is this: With MS >PHP is clearly distinct from the OS. I go get it >from php.org. With BSD I must rely on the >package system. This is taking up a lot of ink; is this a genuine enquiry or a provocation? Search for "Extraneous entries for Visual C++ Standard hotfixes"

Re: IPs in the facebook.com domain accessing OpenSBD firewall

2012-05-17 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>I wonder if these machines in the facebook.com domain are infected >with some malware bots? Facebook *is* a malware bot:) Let the request through and log what it tries to do next, this could be quite a story. -- p

Re: Thank you for an awsome product...

2012-05-16 Thread Peter Laufenberg
if you ssh from Windows try Bitvise Tunnelier instead of putty. If you ssh from *nix... just use ssh. -- p > Hello, And thank you for an awsome product...I am a novice, >(just starting out in the linux/unix/bsd world), been a windows server guy and >3d modeler/animator, graphic a

Re: stresstest + safest crashlog?

2012-05-13 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On May 13 17:47:55, Petah wrote: >> I've had a bunch of crashes freezing one PC to such an extent I couldn't >> recover any log, > >You mean, after a reboot? Ctrl-alt-del won't reboot (pc has no X), I have to keep powerbutton down 5 secs. There's one post-reboot log entry unrelated to the panic

Re: Watchdog timeout reset in 5.1 on intel nic:s

2012-05-12 Thread Peter Laufenberg
I've had the same problem with a KVM, maybe worth a note in the install docs? -- p >On May 11, 2012, at 19:05, "Per-Olov Sjvholm" wrote: > >> On 11 maj 2012, at 11:16, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> >>> On 2012/05/11 01:15, Garry Dolley wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 03:31:27PM +0100, Stuart He