OpenBSD poster

2008-03-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I have made an OpenBSD promotion poster. http://images.twibright.com/tns/21a8.html CL<

misc rejects because of sender verify

2007-11-06 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello If I configure my exim on my laptop according to what's written in the comments, I cannot send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The comment says that primary_hostname should be "your host's canonical name [...] the fully qualified "official" name of your host". Well my laptop is called kestrel a

Regenerating damaged /etc

2007-11-06 Thread Karel Kulhavy
During upgrading between 4.1 and 4.2 I accidentally typed rm -rf /etc instead of rm -rf etc in the /tmp directory. After fixing couple of vital things I continued normally with the upgrade, unpacking the etc42.tgz and xetc42.tgz and reinstalling couple of programs so that their /etc/ files are reg

What happens with mismatched filesets?

2007-11-05 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I didn't find an answer to my question in the upgrade guide: What happens if I upgrade using the cd4x.iso and leave unselected a fileset that was selected when the system was installed? Will it leave old versions of files and make the system inconsistent? Or will the old set be removed from the sys

Re: What happened to my virtual consoles?

2007-11-04 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:35:06PM -0500, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > I just installed OpenBSD 4.2. When I run X, I no-longer have access to the > virtual consoles. When I try to switch to a virtual console (by pressing > CONTROL-ALT-F2, for example), the screen goes black for a few seconds and >

Re: The program 'foobar' received an X Window System error.

2007-11-04 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 01:10:09PM +0100, Manuel Wildauer wrote: > Hi > > I have a problem with my X. > > -- snip -- > [~] firefox > The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error. > This probably reflects a bug in the program. > The error was '82'. > (Details: serial 428 error_cod

Re: Open hardware.

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:47:27PM +, Adrian Fisher wrote: > How much modern computer hardware is fully open source or at least has fully > open interfaces that allow anyone to create device drivers? I Sun and I've made one that implements wireless comms... ronja.twibright.com > another comp

Re: What is the "nice" process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:15:14PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > > > > > You've been on this list and using OpenBSD for long enough that you > > > should be trying things like "man nice&quo

Re: What is the "nice" process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:21:13PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote: > 2007/11/3, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It's clear to me what is the nice column. I asked for the nice state instead > > - if you run top, you have a line "CPU state: ...0.0% nice...&qu

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 02:21:27PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/11/03 13:40, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > > > no; character devices (such as /dev/audio) keep per-unit state > > > (encoding,

Re: What is the "nice" process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 08:55:04AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > > >From the replies I got (none of which actually answered my question) it > > >looks > > like the "nice" state might

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:44:02PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > Hello, > > This thread has been really interesting. > > On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. > > Mplayer is GPL, so be careful abou

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:23:31AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > > On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple > > > process to o

Re: What is the "nice" process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:40:11PM +0200, Lars Noodin wrote: > Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > ... > > man nice doesn't say what the "nice" state in the top printout is neither > > man top says it. > > ... > > Bug report time. Manpages are 'easy

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:47:20AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > On 10/31/07, Samuel Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a > > question about the sound system , is there a way to play > > two sounds at the sam

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:17:05AM -0400, Samuel Proulx wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a > question about the sound system , is there a way to play two sounds at the > same time ? Example watching youtube videos with opera and playing so

Re: Questions to 4.0->4.1 upgrade

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
see Patricia Evans: Controlling People http://www.amazon.com/Controlling-People-Recognize-Understand-Control/dp/158062569X CL< > rather quickly that you're not the stupid idiot that needs to spam misc@ > with boring questions like this. > > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 02:00

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:05:20AM -0700, Dag Richards wrote: > n0g0013 wrote: > >On 31.10-11:12, Nick Guenther wrote: > >[ ... ] > >>>and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the > >>>possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most > >>>significant barrier

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:55:20PM +0100, Pierre Riteau wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:30:24AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > > On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > They don't need a list. They could already have started coding. Yet > > > we see how few people actu

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:49:03AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > surely there must be _some_ merit to creating a list of lower level > > > development tasks (as dictated by those with experience to judge) to > > > encourage people to enter the development cycle. > > > > The most amusing thing

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:23:53AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >On 31.10-08:40, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >[ ... ] > >>> Yeah, right. > >[ ... ] > >> I don't understand. Is newbies learning new things a waste to you? Do > >> you think they won't really learn anything unless the patch is > >> app

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 08:26:07PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: > > Is there a list similar to Linux kernel janitors also for OpenBSD? It's a > > list > > of tasks for which you don't have to be experienced in the particular OS > > internals to be able to complete them properly. > > No, there isn't.

Re: What is the "nice" process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:35:41AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:57:06PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > I am raytraing a video with a command "rt" and the "top" is showing this: > > > > CPU states: 48.4% user, 48.7%

A prototype of suggested OpenBSD manual

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
The OpenBSD has very good documentation when it comes to the manpages, but with the web guides there is one thing I don't like: one is presented information he doesn't need at the moment, which consumes time and increases likelihood of a mistake. So I wrote an example prototype of a guide how I i

Questions to 4.0->4.1 upgrade

2007-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I want to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.2 and I see I am supposed to perform 4.0->4.1 first. But some things are unclear to me in http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade41.html: "Pay special attention to mail/* if you are using something other than the default Sendmail(8) configuration." - I use Exim so I should

OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-10-30 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Is there a list similar to Linux kernel janitors also for OpenBSD? It's a list of tasks for which you don't have to be experienced in the particular OS internals to be able to complete them properly. CL<

Re: Google employment opportunity

2007-10-27 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 05:23:37PM -0700, David Mack wrote: > Hi Theo, > > My name is David Mack, and I am a recruiter for the Google.com engineering > team, a dynamic, challenging and fun group, which is responsible for our > Google website, from start to finish. > > While doing a search for a s

What is the "nice" process state?

2007-10-27 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I am raytraing a video with a command "rt" and the "top" is showing this: CPU states: 48.4% user, 48.7% nice, 3.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle [...] PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATEWAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 29174 clock 79 10 33M 15M run -0:00 4.25% rt

lookup option in /etc/resolv.conf ignored

2007-10-13 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I want to make my OS return 127.0.0.1 on google-analytics.com and ad.doubleclick.net to speed up the work with Sourceforge. I put 127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net into /etc/hosts and checked that /etc/resolv.conf contains lookup file bind According to man resolv.conf

fsck.ext2 segfault

2007-10-10 Thread Karel Kulhavy
OBSD 4.0, the disk is an IDE disk taken from a long-ago Linux computer put into a IDE-to-USB disk enclosure. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fsck.ext2 /dev/sd0j [...] /dev/sd0j: 503728/7208960 files (3.3% non-contiguous), 9188731/14390223 blocks umass0: Invalid CSW: tag 904086 should be 904087 sd0: WARNING:

Correct place to report bugs in perl

2007-10-07 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I would like to report a bug - a segfault - in Perl v5.8.8 which is a standard part of OBSD 4.0. The perl page says that perlbjug should be used for perl version 5. man perlbug says: "If you have found a bug with a non-standard port (one that was not part of the standard distribution), a binary di

Missing manpages db4_*

2007-10-07 Thread Karel Kulhavy
The following programs have missing manpage on OpenBSD 4.0: db4_archive db4_checkpoint db4_deadlock db4_dump db4_dump185 db4_load db4_printlog db4_recover db4_stat db4_upgrade Does anyone have any idea what these are for? I guess they are for some database manipulation. --help doesn't give much us

Another segfault in DB_File.so

2007-10-07 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I guess this means a bug in DB_File.so or Perl. No matter how badly Spamassassin is written it must not be able to produce a segfault. Is DB_File.so an OpenBSD-specific implementation of database? This segfault was produce by sa-learn -D --sync and the last debug message it printed was "[25545] d

Re: Perl/libc? segfault

2007-10-07 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I tried to track this down to a single message but I failed - when I divided the large mailbox into two halves, each of the halves went through successfully. BTW, the spamassassing still segfaults regularly. CL< On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:27:13PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > While r

Speeding up OBSD bootup

2007-10-06 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Is it possible to specify the kernel that the hardware for which there are drivers probing for but I don't have in my PC is absent? Since OBSD has no suspend to disk/RAM, the bootup speed is critical when working with a laptop in public transport. Or are there any other possible ways how to speed

Perl/libc? segfault

2007-10-05 Thread Karel Kulhavy
While running spamassassin (the one in OpenBSD 4.0) my Perl (also OBSD 4.0) happened to segfault when learning what is spam. There is no suspicion on bad hardware, and this situation already happened in the past several times ocassionally. There were 9153 spam messages in the folder. I'll try if I

PCC? GCC has crap optimization!

2007-10-01 Thread Karel Kulhavy
GCC has no idea about optimization even if the optimization is turned to the maximum: unsigned long long x(unsigned lo, unsigned hi) { return ((unsigned long long)hi << 32) | lo; } gcc -O3 -c -o a.o a.c; objdump -d a.o: 0: 55

OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-09-29 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at my laptop and asked "where did you get this damned cool sticker"? It was the wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop on the bus. I think this confirms that the stickers are really good de

man strnlen mistake?

2007-09-26 Thread Karel Kulhavy
"In doing this, strnlen() looks only at the first maxlen characters at s and never beyond s+maxlen." Shouldn't it be "never beyond s+maxlen-1"? CL<

Proper way to install library from source

2007-09-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello I would like to have the AoTuV Vorbis encoder. There is no package for that. Is this supported on OpenBSD and if yes what is the proper way to do it? I downloaded the AoTuV libvorbis (it's just a different "version" of libvorbis), compiled, installed, then oggenc didn't recognize -q 2. So I

Checking mailbox ownership.

2007-09-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I am getting this message from Charlie Root over and over: Checking mailbox ownership. user clock mailbox is drwx--, group users Does it mean I should change the mailbox flags or group? If yes, what are the correct values then? CL<

mc doesn't work on console

2007-07-26 Thread Karel Kulhavy
If I try to start mc (midnight commander) on a text console I get a black screen with one horizontal blue strip 1 char thick 2 chars from the bottom of the screen. It doesn't seem to work and behaves unpredictably. For example if I type "ls", instead of a list of files I get the whole screen blue.

Re: Hack OpenBSD and improve fitness at the same time

2007-07-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:09:53PM +0100, Stefan Olsson wrote: > -Apart from health this could be used to generate electricity for Theo's > servers! Then you could put in a section on the Donations page to come over > and do a few hours on the bike and help keeping the electricity bill down. >

Re: GPL is free for forcing people to free code when they publish, not free as in free to do what you want, which is actually what free as in BSD, and real freedom ends at the tip of my nose

2007-07-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:25:43AM -0400, Umnada Tyrolla wrote: > Why isn't there some zealot out there who recodes gpl stuff into > bsd licensed code? That would be a service to developers, at least. Because preaching takes much less energy than sitting for long hours at a computer and figuring

Re: 4.1 !

2007-07-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:10:26AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: > It's in ! It looks very very very cool ;) > > Thanks Wim for such an incredibly speedy delivery ! In my last case Wim delivered very slowly. I wanted to buy an obsd hoodie as a christmas 2006 present. Wim assured me it shouldn't be

Re: Zurich OpenBSD

2007-07-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 01:27:28PM +0400, Anton Karpov wrote: > > RFC, anyone? :) > > > > > My coffee had just run out, so no keyboard harmed. > > > > Timo > > > > > > I like the idea of T-shirts and stickers "It's an OpenBSD thing. You > wouldn't understand" ;-) I have the big white Puffy sticke

Hack OpenBSD and improve fitness at the same time

2007-07-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I understand that hacking OpenBSD code requires a lot of time commitment sitting in front of a computer but that people possibly also have concerns about their health which needs regular exercise. Add an everyday job to this and you get a shortage of time. Therefore I have developed a special open

Zurich OpenBSD

2007-07-18 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hi I saw someone at Zurich Central with an OpenBSD t-shirt 2 days ago, I wonder if he's subscribed to this list. I should have stopped him ;-) CL<

Similar USB scanners

2007-06-22 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello uscanner(4) supports Epson Perfection 610U,636U,1200U,1200U Photo, but I can get only Perfection V10. Or HP ScanJet - supported 4100C, 5200C, 5300C, 6300C, but I can get only 2400C. Is there a chance that Epson Perfection V10 or HP ScanJet 2400C will be not only recognized, but will also w

Re: Security of the keyboard

2007-06-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:00:01PM +0200, Artur Grabowski wrote: > Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 07:05:38PM -0700, Don Scott wrote: > > > I think Artur Grabowski too easily dismisses the question. > > > > >

OpenSSL key theft through cache timing

2007-06-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
http://www.daemonology.net/papers/htt.pdf This is the missing link to my post about keyboard security. CL<

Re: Security of the keyboard

2007-06-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
ugh the timing. Mikulas said he even knew some link to where they cracked OpenSSL this way - Mikulas can you post it? CL< > > On 6/19/07, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A friend who is happening to write his own operating system just pointed > >out > >

Security of the keyboard

2007-06-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
A friend who is happening to write his own operating system just pointed out to me that a keyboard driver cannot use - lookup tables, because timing accessing these lookup tables would yield information what key was pressed when entering a root password - tests and jumps, because the same would

Re: sockaddr_in in manpage and /usr/include different

2007-06-05 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:29:48PM +0200, Andreas Maus wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:29:52PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > Hi. > > > OpenBSD 4.0 man 7 ip says: > Thats interesting. On my OpenBSD 4.0 systems I don't have a man 7 ip. > I have a man 4 ip instead - and

sockaddr_in in manpage and /usr/include different

2007-06-05 Thread Karel Kulhavy
OpenBSD 4.0 man 7 ip says: struct sockaddr_in { sa_family_tsin_family; /* address family: AF_INET */ u_int16_t sin_port; /* port in network byte order */ struct in_addr sin_addr; /* internet address */ }; /usr/include/netinet/i

mplayer and libdvdread and libdvdcss

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I tried to play a .vob file with mplayer and got this message: Encrypted VOB file! Read DOCS/HTML/en/cd-dvd.html So I read /home/clock/MPlayer-1.0rc1/DOCS/HTML/en/cd-dvd.html and that says: "MPlayer uses libdvdread and libdvdcss for DVD playback and decryption. These two libraries are contained in

Machine freezes from invalid Ethernet packets

2007-05-04 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello I connected a 10Mbps free space optics link to a 10Mbps hub to which OpenBSD 4.0 machine (Dell Inspiron 510m) was connected. The link had probably bad signal because on the Dell directly (i. e. in the NIC) I could receive the RTP that was transmitted through the link, but another device coul

nonsense from OBSD 4.0 ping

2007-05-04 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I have the OpenBSD 4.0 ping and it wrote this: 64 bytes from 192.168.2.215: icmp_seq=3029 ttl=64 time=6.057 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.2.215: icmp_seq=3035 ttl=64 time=44.108 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.2.215: icmp_seq=3036 ttl=64 time=-994831.-515 ms

X Window System crash

2007-04-18 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Looks like X Windows have some race condition or maybe it's in the kernel? I've been running spamassassin learning which loaded the system. Then I started X Windows System with "startx". During normal startup, a screen of garbage flashes and is replaced with black screen and then with X background

Re: scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:33:57AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:02:50PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > On 2007/04/11 13:41, Bryan Irvine wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-11 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:13:16AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:41:41PM -0500, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:02:50PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > On 2007/04/11 13:41, Bryan Irvine wrote: > > > > scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:"a\ b" . > > >

Re: scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-11 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:02:50PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/04/11 13:41, Bryan Irvine wrote: > > > > >I agree, spaces in filenames should be avoided. But spaces in > > >filenames are legal, so programs need to support that; this seems like > > >a case scp was never tested against b

Re: scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-11 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:55:29PM +0200, Simon Effenberg wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:17:38PM -0400, Nick ! wrote: > > On 4/11/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >

Re: scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-11 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:17:38PM -0400, Nick ! wrote: > On 4/11/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >> Of Karel Kulhavy > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:47 PM >

Re: scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-11 Thread Karel Kulhavy
than is written in the manpage regardless of the user's motivation. CL< > > > danno > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Karel Kulhavy > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:47 PM > To: OpenBSD > Subject:

scp problem with remote filename escaping

2007-04-11 Thread Karel Kulhavy
For the same filename, sometimes you have to specify a different filename to scp, depending on whether the file is on remote system or local one. I have created a remote file whose filename "a b" is 3 chars long - ASCII codes 97, 32, 98 scp '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:a b' . doesn't work - prints: scp: a:

Why gtk-gnutella stopped working

2007-04-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello gtk-gnutella shipped with OpenBSD 4.0 is now obsolete and obsolete versions are banned after 1 year from the Gnutella network. If you are wondering, why it's suddenly not working, uninstall gtk-gnutella, download the official one, delete ~/.gtk-gnutella, do Configure -d, make, make install

Re: Installing Skype

2007-03-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:36:37PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 09:48:35PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:26:25PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > > On Friday 23 March 2007 12:13, Tobias Weisserth wrote: > > > >

Re: Installing Skype

2007-03-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:26:25PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Friday 23 March 2007 12:13, Tobias Weisserth wrote: > > From the emails in this thread we know he needs it for work, so he > > hasn't really got a choice. There's no other client to the Skype > > network. Maybe there's a way to

Re: Installing Skype

2007-03-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 12:03:54PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Friday 23 March 2007 11:35, Tobias Weisserth wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Rafael Morales wrote: > > > I need the shared library libasound.so.2, anybody > > > could send to me ???, I don't have a linux box here. > > > > I

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 10:03:14AM -0400, Dan Farrell wrote: > I second that. > > danno > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of chefren > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:34 PM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: No Blob without Puffy > >

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 12:43:06AM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > Tell me, would you let Microsoft for example, access your servers to see > if they work well? I don't think so. But again, you might already do > that via BLOB. You just don't know. Interesting story about a security breach.

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:52:35PM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: > Lars D. Nooden wrote: > > > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Dave Anderson wrote: > > > You've left out the extremely important fact that many vendors > > > interpret acceptance of blobs by any "free" OS as validating their > > > position of n

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:23:43AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 01:53:00PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > It's therefore not the responsibility of the programmer to check whether the > > result of optimization is correct. Therefore it's n

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:15:16AM -0400, Jason Beaudoin wrote: > > > > > > >> Everything is much slower than existing Linux system. For example, > >> Firefox takes 3-5 seconds to start on Linux but ~10 seconds on > >> OpenBSD on same machine! > > > >I have the same problem. The FFS doesn't seem t

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:26:56AM -0400, Nick ! wrote: > On 3/19/07, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:06:43PM +0100, Joachim Schipper wrote: > >> > >> Aggressive compiler optimizations are not generally a good idea. The &g

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:23:43AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 01:53:00PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > It's therefore not the responsibility of the programmer to check whether the > > result of optimization is correct. Therefore it's n

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 12:06:31AM +0100, SW wrote: I have a feeling that the campaign means "We don't want vendors to require us to use a blob but we'll ocassionally use them when we have to other way", while Theo means "I don't want vendors to require us to use a blob and I refuse to use them ev

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:35:14AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > * SW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-19 03:21]: > > Free as in FreeBSD > > ahh, I finally get it. > > dry like water > hot like ice > free like freebsd FreeBSD is released under BSD licence and therefore is free software, see http://

Re: FreeBSD Announces Intel Approval for Redistribution of Wireless Firmware

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:43:27AM +0100, Alexander Farber wrote: > FYI (sorry if this already been mentioned here): > http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/03/prweb509818.htm > > "In order to use the firmware provided by Intel, FreeBSD users must > first agree with the license. FreeBSD developers ha

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:23:28PM +0100, Vim Visual wrote: > >Agreed. It's not the lawsuit that makes people use Linux instead of the > >BSD's; it's the holier-than-thou, > >fuck-'em-if-they-dare-question-our-judgement attitude. > > > >Jeff > > indeed... > > actually, I was curious to see what a

Re: Sony laptop sound problems with auich0 and openbsd 3.9, 4.0, 4.1-beta.

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 10:34:52PM -0800, zion wrote: > Hello list, > > Having serious problems with Sony PCG-V505EX laptop. > Basically, sound doesn't work unless there is some activity (traffic) on > fxp0 or iwi0 interfaces. Even if there is some traffic, sound grinds to > a halt after few secon

Re: firefox compiling dependence

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:38:02AM +0800, ronald jiang wrote: > I want to compiling firefox in obsd4.0. > I've installed obsd fully. > What else do I need to compile firefox? If you want to compile and not install from binary, read about the ports on openbsd.org faq page I think it's section 5. Be

Re: OT? Is this bad news?

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:31:14PM +0200, Marius ROMAN wrote: > Programming documentation is restricted also because the hardware is > full of bugs and like Theo said there is no errata for a lot of > hardware. On the other hand, some vendors go as far as releasing even the schematics and gerbers

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:06:43PM +0100, Joachim Schipper wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:36:00PM -0500, R. Fumione wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am using OpenBSD on server since few years now, and I am very happy > > with it's easy maintenance and it's stability. I want to try on > > desktop,

Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops

2007-03-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:36:00PM -0500, R. Fumione wrote: > Hello, > > I am using OpenBSD on server since few years now, and I am very happy > with it's easy maintenance and it's stability. I want to try on > desktop, and I am having trouble. > > Everything is much slower than existing Linux sy

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:43:47AM +1100, fonkprop wrote: > Yet again, we see that although Theo is willing to beg, wheedle and threaten > his user community into sending him money when he needs it, he holds them in > too much contempt to respond to simple, uncontroversial and valid criticism. > >

Re: Slightly OT: i386 Sound Card Recommendation

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0400, JT Croteau wrote: > This may seem like a simple question but it has been a long time since > I've done any multimedia work on a *nix platform and never on OpenBSD. > I need to add a sound card to my OpenBSD desktop box for basic audio > playback from .mp3's

Quickly fix the latest IPv6 vulnerability

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
For the people who don't have time to learn about compiling at the moment... Not tested though, sorry. On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:38:19PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote: > > sudo -s > cd /usr > export [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs > export VERS=OPENBSD_`uname -r | tr '.' '_'` >

Re: OpenBSD-Entwickler wollten kritische Lu:cke kleinreden

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 05:56:03PM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:08:02 +0100 > Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.heise.de/security/news/meldung/86730 > > And for the majority of the worlds population that doesn't speak

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:49:52AM -0500, Travers Buda wrote: > * tony sarendal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-16 06:03:49]: > > > http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html > > --- > > *security-announce* Security announcements. This low volume list receives > > OpenBSD security advisories and pointers to se

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 05:53:10AM +, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > On 03/15/2007 11:55:44 PM, Kian Mohageri wrote: > > >Security isn't about receiving notifications to your Inbox in a timely > >fashion. It is about being proactive yourself. You should be the one > >taking measures to secure your sy

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:49:19PM -0600, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: > Karl O. Pinc wrote: > > On 03/15/2007 11:29:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > >> I looked for your name on the donations list. I don't see it. > > > > I only buy CDs and stuff occasionally, and generally > > invest time in what I

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
--> Bram, your gtodo is mentioned. On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:40:57AM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > Karl O. Pinc wrote: > >On 03/15/2007 11:29:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > >>I looked for your name on the donations list. I don't see it. > > > >I only buy CDs and stuff occasionally, and gener

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:31:32AM +, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > On 03/15/2007 10:48:49 PM, Ray Percival wrote: > >On Mar 15, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > > >>I rely on having a clear channel for security related > >>problems. > > >The only communication problem here is that you don't l

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:23:00AM +, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > No, but if security errata announcements arn't delivered > in a fashion that delivers them to a human then they > do no good. I should not be expected to peruse the > misc@openbsd.org list to find errata announcements. > OpenBSD says

Re: Important OpenBSD errata

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:29:22PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." > > -- Robert A. Heinlein > > I was trying to decide if I should reply, and if so, how. > > I looked for your name on the donations list. I don't see it. O

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Is it true that Puffy is not here because of Theo's concerns about > > his copyrighted Puffy logo? > > http://misc.allbsd.de/Kampagnen/NoBlob/NoBlob-en-Poster.jpg > > No. That is false. Whoever told you that lied to you. That wa

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
s published guidelines, and had no problem getting > permission. > > > On 3/16/07, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is it true that Puffy is not here because of Theo's concerns about > >his copyrighted Puffy logo? > >http://misc.allbsd.de/Kampagn

Links+

2007-03-16 Thread Karel Kulhavy
http://openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html The name of the browser that is at http://links.twibright.com is not Links+, but Links (or Twibright Links). It's not a different browser than the textmode Links. If you run recent Links without -g, you get the textmode links. There is an older version of Links whi

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