On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Is it true that Puffy is not here because of Theo's concerns about > > his copyrighted Puffy logo? > > http://misc.allbsd.de/Kampagnen/NoBlob/NoBlob-en-Poster.jpg > > No. That is false. Whoever told you that lied to you.
That was written in this post on a Swiss IT news portal: http://www.symlink.ch/comments.pl?sid=07/03/15/1557213&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=9 If you don't understand German, I can try to translate (I don't understand wel): "Oh, that's even better. allbsd.de has started a "Stop Blob" campaign. While the other BSD's can identify themselves with it, Theo thought that they would put his intellectual property to danger, steal ideas and use the Puffy fish illegitimately on the poster. (The e-mail went on the allbsd-misc mailing list but I can't find an archive link at the moment.) The campaign is now called NoBlob http://misc.allbsd.de/Kampagnen/NoBlob/ " > > > I also couldn't use Puffy logo on Ronja because then I wouldn't be able to > > talk > > about OpenBSD negatively if it came out there is some serious problem with > > Ronja and OpenBSD together. > > There is a serious problem with what allbsd is doing. They first > approached me on the 13th with a campaign using our "Stop the Blob" > slogan. That is something OpenBSD takes very seriously, yet at the > bottom of the poster you can see a list of operating systems which > specifically use a Blob, and actually those projects work against us > when we take on vendors pushing Blobs. > > Of course the first Blob to mention is the Atheros driver in all > those operating systems. I wanted to use Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 in my laptop to connect to wireless network in my work. I found out from the manpage it requires nonfree firmware files (is this a blob?). Instead of downloading them, I dropped an e-mail to the address mentioned in the manpage saying like they can stick their blob up their ass. I can use a wire connectivity for most of the time. Should I need a wireless connections, there are other methods than IPW 2100. I think it's just right to categorically refuse blobs even when the users cannot use their hardware. They should avoid hardware crippleware. My fault that I didn't. > > But more and more of these Blob's are making it into FreeBSD all the > time. The Nvidia driver (though now they are using our nvidia driver, I just wonder what happens if every commercial manufacturer starts requiring a blob? Will OpenBSD stop existing? Or will you adapt a pro-blob policy? Or will someone pop up and design a free hardware design for that product category? > and they have a nvidia employee on their team who commits things to > that driver without talking to anyone). And the same thing is > happening to lots of other drivers in FreeBSD. FreeBSD apparently has > a signed agreement with Nvidia over the accelerated video driver, and So you have absolutely no signed NDA agreements? > I guess that creates a reluctance amongst them to fight Nvidia with us > for ethernet drivers. The same has happened with other things like > Adaptec RAID. FreeBSD developers actively side with the vendors when > we demand documentation. > > So isn't it rather hypocritical to have a anti-Blob campaign, backed > by projects which embrace the Blob? > > After being shown the first version of the art (showing our slogan, > and all the BSD's down below), I told allbsd that > (1) they cannot misuse our slogan like that > (2) I felt their whole campaign was hypocritical > > Daniel Seuffert got very angry, and instead of removing operating > systems which are pro-Blob from an anti-Blob posted, they instead > deleted us. > > Isn't that just incredible? It's just an ordinary political practice. Talks about morality and truth are used in a straightforward manner to get better sales without a regard to actual consistency or correcntess. > > > I think Theo should stop being paranoid about his Puffy. Puffy is not > > something > > you steal from a bowl and it disappears. I also have a Ronja logo which is > > under GFDL and noone is stealing it and damaging me. The same for the Linux > > Tux > > I have the feeling. > > You've got it wrong. Now it makes sense. The adoption rate of a product typically goes up with how crap it is. So your explanation is more plausible than theirs because FreeBSD has higher adoption. CL<
