On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:49:03AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > surely there must be _some_ merit to creating a list of lower level
> > > development tasks (as dictated by those with experience to judge) to
> > > encourage people to enter the development cycle.
> > 
> > The most amusing thing about this thread is that such a list has been
> > published for years (it's somewhat short right now, but there's some
> > simple stuff in it) and is the first search hit when you search on one
> > of the obvious queries on google.
> 
> Surely they are too busy whining at us for lists, to actually search
> for the lists.
> 
> I'll say it again more clearly -- all of you whiners just plain suck.

Who do you mean with whiners? People who report bugs? Those people save you
work, because instead of having to run time-consuming tests to find the
problems, you just rake the problem reports in from these people.

> We know you'll never write diffs, and it is up to you to prove us

I fixed some bugs in BRL-CAD (a 30 year old oldschool C-only 3D modelling
system from the US Army) because BRL-CAD people are friendly and helpful.
Instead of "you suck", they tell you "this XX you wrote cannot work because of
YY".

I asked here for janitor list, got a reply that it doesn't exist. I looked
into the PR database into documentation section but there were 0 hits. I looked
into other sections but that seemed to be complicated, I don't want to invest
significant time into learning OpenBSD internals at the moment.

CL<
> wrong.  If you don't write diffs, we have a difficult time feeling any
> loss.

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