On Jan 6, 2008 4:25 AM, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
> > > allow them to be redistributed with the system.
> > >
> >
> > You are talking of free as
> There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest
> analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Was it the
> FSF by any chance?
>
A guy called it 'Free as in Sex' here. Blame him for the next dumbest term. :P
> >
> > > By now if you have been carefully studyi
On Jan 5, 2008 11:51 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated
> > at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read.
> >
>
> I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
> like and
On Jan 6, 2008 1:22 AM, Jacob Grydholt Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I use ports. I am not dumb. :P The goals do not specify "to encourage
> > people to use
> > non-free software", but I see that happening anyway.
>
> And so what?
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:25:37 +1100, "Sunnz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 2008/1/5, Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > rm -P wont work... I looking to clean up deleted data ... not securely
> > delete a file.
> >
> >
>
> Just create a file and filling it with /dev/zero until it takes up all
> the free spac
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:39:35PM -0600, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:28:39 -0800 (PST)
> Reid Nichol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well OpenBSD is fine here. But, are you sure about RMS? Because he
> > has been contradicting himself all over the place in this thre
> On 1/5/08, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does ReactOS recommend non-free software?
> > If so. please show me what it says, and the URL.
>
> I have a better idea. Why don't you do your own fucking homework.
Oh come now. You can't expect a hypocrite to do homework that
undermi
This really is getting old... it's getting harder to want to even go
through new messages in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not siding with RMS or anybody, but let's either make a new
mailing list for it or let this stuff get archived and move on.
Just my 2"
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 07:48:53PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On 1/5/08, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there anything that, bug-wise, could go wrong with that remote
> > browser that would be able to read or alter anything on the local
> > machine? I'm talking about using ssh
Lars NoodC)n wrote:
L wrote:
...
The first time I heard cult mentioned was when people were complaining
about open bsd being a cult of open bsd followers, or mean rude cult
members...
I assume you are talking about this dreadful thread.
...
Outside this thread the first time I he
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
BTW, one would say that the accusations of "cult" did not start from me
(or Richard), so I'd say you "accusers" fall straight on the "above all"
that's included in that link:
"We are not a cult -- all of those other groups are. We work very hard
to make sure that
L wrote:
> ...
> The first time I heard cult mentioned was when people were complaining
> about open bsd being a cult of open bsd followers, or mean rude cult
> members...
I assume you are talking about this dreadful thread.
Outside this thread the first time I heard cults mentioned was back in
t
On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
On 1/5/08, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there anything that, bug-wise, could go wrong with that remote
browser that would be able to read or alter anything on the local
machine? I'm talking about using ssh's X forwarding features
Let me make a sincere apology to all who read that and thought I was
drawing a parallel. It obviously was poor choice of words and I am
sorry for saying it. I won't even try to explain what my actual
intention was since it'll sound hollow.
Bad marco.
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:47:10PM -0500, De
On 1/5/08, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there anything that, bug-wise, could go wrong with that remote
> browser that would be able to read or alter anything on the local
> machine? I'm talking about using ssh's X forwarding features, not using
> X's native forwarding.
a lot m
Deanna Phillips wrote:
Marco Peereboom writes:
Blah blah blah my feelers are hurt. Do I need to mail you
some maxi pads?
Do I need to point out that you've attempted to insult someone
by comparing him to some bullshit stereotype about women?
Here is my stereotype: Sharp 200Watt with
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 06:18:34PM -0700, L wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:31:00AM -0700, L wrote:
Hypocrite thoughts are constructed in your mind the way you want to see
it.. the same way CULTS want you to see
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 10:43:56PM +0200, Jussi Peltola wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:36:04AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > Perhaps you could use the banking machine as your main access point,
> > running apps on the main box via ssh. Would that introduce any
> > insecurity in the banki
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 12:09:08PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Shane J Pearson wrote:
> SNIP
> >Where a mix of humans, transistors, valves, gears and three-phase
> >motors/sensors, got the job done.;-)
> >
> >Shane
>
> No coal and steam?
>
> I had to say it.
What do yo
--- Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
> like and fight for what you believe in. Goals are just text written
> in a stupid web page until you live up to them.
Which OpenBSD does. You have failed to show otherwise.
> >
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:28:39 -0800 (PST)
Reid Nichol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well OpenBSD is fine here. But, are you sure about RMS? Because he
> has been contradicting himself all over the place in this thread alone.
Richard appears to be falling into a "single point of failure" setup.
I
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 00:29:11 Chris Kuethe wrote:
> php.ini ... short tags
I have no idea why my first post thanking folks didn't get
through, but thanks to all for the data. Most appreciated.
STeve Andre'
--- Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 1:06 AM, Reid Nichol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Use of non-free software is highly harmful to your
> > > computer and ethics.
> >
> > Please cite a piece of software that can harm m
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 07:46:08PM -0500, Eliah Kagan wrote:
> When you say the world is not made of such extremes, do you mean you
> think the long-term effects of something are always unquantifiable?
The long term effects of anything are always something left to optimism
or pessimism, according
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 06:18:34PM -0700, L wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:31:00AM -0700, L wrote:
>>
>>> Hypocrite thoughts are constructed in your mind the way you want to see
>>> it.. the same way CULTS want you to see that their cult is right about
>>
Marco Peereboom writes:
> Blah blah blah my feelers are hurt. Do I need to mail you
> some maxi pads?
Do I need to point out that you've attempted to insult someone
by comparing him to some bullshit stereotype about women?
On Jan 5, 2008, at 17:15, "Joel Wiramu Pauling"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The main annoyance I have had with bittorrent/p2p apps on openbsd is
the relatively low file open limits. Pumping this is easy enough tho.
rtorrent sorted that for me nicely.
On 06/01/2008, Leonardo Rodrigues <[EM
--- Shane J Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 06/01/2008, at 3:28 AM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > If you don't mind users using non-free software, you shouldn't be
> > putting the 'Free. ' in 'Free. Functional. Secure.'
>
> Huh? OpenBSD is built from free software and allows users the freedom
>
On Jan 5, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Yes. But even if it's legally redistributable, the question remains
wether it's free software or not.
Fortunately OpenBSD is Free Software. Unfortunately it recommends and
distributes proprietary software on it's servers (and it wasn't
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:31:00AM -0700, L wrote:
Hypocrite thoughts are constructed in your mind the way you want to see
it.. the same way CULTS want you to see that their cult is right about
EVERYTHING and every other religion and church is wrong.
You
The main annoyance I have had with bittorrent/p2p apps on openbsd is
the relatively low file open limits. Pumping this is easy enough tho.
On 06/01/2008, Leonardo Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe those watchdog timeouts have nothing to do with bittorrent, and
> are probably more relat
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 06:34:49PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> Blah blah blah my feelers are hurt. Do I need to mail you some maxi
> pads?
Now that you mention it, shortly after this idiotic flame I started
receiving "tons" of spam.
I wonder if they're related...
Rui
--
Or is it?
Today is
Blah blah blah my feelers are hurt. Do I need to mail you some maxi
pads?
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 12:56:08AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 12:34:45PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > > > According to YOU, it is okay to have emacs and gcc run on a proprietary
> >
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:31:00AM -0700, L wrote:
> Hypocrite thoughts are constructed in your mind the way you want to see
> it.. the same way CULTS want you to see that their cult is right about
> EVERYTHING and every other religion and church is wrong.
You seem to abuse the word hypocrisy. N
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 10:28:19AM -0800, Ray Percival wrote:
> don't like you. You think we rank up there with baby killers. I will NEVER
> understand how that works so just FOAD and we can all be happy.
I think that "ranking" you mention is 100% your interpretation. :)
Rui
--
Or is it?
Today
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 12:34:45PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > > According to YOU, it is okay to have emacs and gcc run on a proprietary
> > > system as it allows more people to run free software. How is it that it
> > > is wrong to allow more people to run a free system by giving them links
>
I wrote:
> > discouraging development of free replacements to software? What would
> > you need to know to actually know that Wine was ultimately
> > counterproductive, or ultimately productive? When it comes right down
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> The world is not made of such extremes, fortu
On 1/5/08, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest
> analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Was it the
Thank you.
But, like all good political slogans, it is stupid like a fox: the
hucksters who push
On 1/5/08, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I said everybody, I meant Everybody. Not one person. Applying the
> same to OpenBSD, all that the people here do is bitch about and
> nothing more.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Why, they haven't provided me with a free
upgrade for, what 2,
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:14:27 +0100
"Jacob Grydholt Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You're missing the point why somebody is calling OpenBSD non-free.
> > Or supposedly why emacs runs on non-free.
>
> And you apparently missed the posts where the leading developers of
> OpenBSD stated that t
On 1/5/08, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does ReactOS recommend non-free software?
> If so. please show me what it says, and the URL.
I have a better idea. Why don't you do your own fucking homework.
Maybe those watchdog timeouts have nothing to do with bittorrent, and
are probably more related to nic problems. Have you tried running your
torrent client with a different network card?
On Jan 5, 2008 4:22 PM, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any suggested PF setup when using BitTorre
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
> > allow them to be redistributed with the system.
> >
>
> You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the
> whole point was to avoid paying $$
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:28:53AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 12:26 AM, Siju George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Jan 5, 2008 11:28 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the
> > > community which listens to
On Jan 5, 2008 5:57 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Could you please respond to all paragraphs that I wrote? I really want
> to understand...
God pointed his finger at his anointed prophet Richard Stallman
http://linux.ues.edu.sv/servidor/maracosas/bruno2d/richard-stallman
On 1/5/08, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are register values preserved between function calls on amd64? I'm pretty
> sure
> they are whipped out on i386, but I'm sure about amd64.
>
> Do I need to write parameters to %rbp offset, then follow the x86-abi for
> registers to write to before mak
Reid Nichol wrote:
--- Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Use of non-free software is highly harmful to your
computer and ethics.
Please cite a piece of software that can harm my computer merely
because it is "non-free" in the FSF/GNU sense. And you should probably
qualify that
L wrote:
Unix Fan wrote:
But either way, no such utility exists to restore data that has been
overwritten.. regardless of the "algorithms" used.
Unless there was a magnetic offline hardware utility of some sort that
scanned magnetic fields?
http://www.actionfront.com/ts_dataremova
Karthik Kumar wrote:
Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
allow them to be redistributed with the system.
You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the
whole point was to avoid paying $$$ in OpenBSD, my bad.
The GNG foundation spea
Karthik Kumar wrote:
It's been a while since I removed links on that page. And
for the information I very much use OpenBSD. Maybe I should change the
title to "Free as in beer OSes".
No. Free is free.
Free as in beer is unethical to children who view the website and wonder
what beer taste
Unix Fan wrote:
L wrote:
Restoring files from FAT partitions is easy.. I use fatback(http://sf.net/projects/fatback)...
I will check that one out..
But either way, no such utility exists to restore data that has been overwritten..
regardless of the "algorithms" used.
Unless
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:51:22PM -0500, Eliah Kagan wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 12:53 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > 4) FYI I think the wine project is counter-productive as it enables
> >running non-free software on free software operating systems, and as
> >such de-incentivates the
The really cool combination of CARP and ifstated enabled a nice
work-around. The attached ifstated.conf works great in my
active-passive firewall cluster setup. At least it survived all
violent testing conducted over the past few hours. But it still needs
to prove itself in the longer term.
Actual
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:39:17PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users
> > > > installing
> > > >
Oh, the real troll just arrived (one more list where he get's to the
kill file).
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 07:52:34PM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 6:53 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> > I'm not from the FSF.
>
> Yeah, yeah. You're a kind of Rich
On 06/01/2008, at 3:28 AM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users
installing
non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this
needs to
be documented for users to get their job done faster.
If you don't mind users using non-free
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 05:53:40PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>
> ... you distribute non-free software.
It has been pointed out on numerous occasions that
this is a false statement.
> No, I am a victim
Only because you elect to remain uninformed.
Is there any suggested PF setup when using BitTorrent?
Right now, the biggest problem I have when using BitTorrent is watchdog
timeouts.
Thanks,
Brian
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
(apologies to Karthik who will receive this mail twice)
On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:36:04AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> Perhaps you could use the banking machine as your main access point,
> running apps on the main box via ssh. Would that introduce any
> insecurity in the banking machine?
I certainly wouldn't do sensitive things on an X server wit
Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind
> our users installing
> > > > non free software if it is what they want. T
--- Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Use of non-free software is highly harmful to your
> computer and ethics.
Please cite a piece of software that can harm my computer merely
because it is "non-free" in the FSF/GNU sense. And you should probably
qualify that ethics remark with: Should
> Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
> allow them to be redistributed with the system.
>
You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the
whole point was to avoid paying $$$ in OpenBSD, my bad.
> --
> Gilles Chehade
>
--
Karthik
http://guilt.
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:51:39PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated
> > at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read.
> >
>
> I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
> like and f
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:28:24PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
>
> I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the
> community which listens to the propagandas put across by both but
> wants to fight back against false marketing and for the right things
> TM.
Great. The first step
On Jan 6, 2008 12:26 AM, Siju George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 11:28 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the
> > community which listens to the propagandas put across by both but
> > wants to fight back against
On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use ports. I am not dumb. :P The goals do not specify "to encourage
> people to use
> non-free software", but I see that happening anyway.
And so what? I think you were trying to prove that OpenBSD were not
living up to their goals. Inst
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:51:39PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated
> > at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read.
> >
>
> I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
> like and f
Richard, Linux is not free software, as you have already stated,
please change your religion, so users don't get confused.
"Emacs was originally a text editor, but it became a way of life and a
religion. To join the Church of Emacs, you need only say the
Confession of the Faith three times:
There
On Jan 5, 2008 12:53 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> 4) FYI I think the wine project is counter-productive as it enables
>running non-free software on free software operating systems, and as
>such de-incentivates the creation of replacements.
> 4.1) but it's free software and its autho
Richard, isn't:
"Run GNOME in a **VMWare Player** in a Linux virtual machine."
Or:
"Run GNOME on a virtual machine using QEMU on Linux or **Parallels**
for **Mac** or Linux."
promoting the use of non-free software?
http://torrent.gnome.org/
GNOME _is_ a GNU package.
Greetings!
On 05/01/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > > 2: Space for the P3 is limited and I would like to remove its printer
> and
> > > print bank statements across the LAN on the main PC (running Linux, or
> maybe
> > > FreeBSD in future) using CUPS. Does this introduce security ris
On Saturday 05 January 2008 09:57:54 Diana Eichert wrote:
> Okay, someone touched on this so I'll follow it a little further.
>
> Say you pull the platter(s) out of the drive and now start analysing the
> data as analog voltage levels and not highs/lows with threshold. Also,
> get the data off the
Are register values preserved between function calls on amd64? I'm pretty sure
they are whipped out on i386, but I'm sure about amd64.
Do I need to write parameters to %rbp offset, then follow the x86-abi for
registers to write to before making the function call? When I disassemble C
code, it lo
Hello mini-RMS,
Happy New Year greetings from gnu.misc.discuss! :-)
On Jan 5, 2008 6:53 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> I'm not from the FSF.
Yeah, yeah. You're a kind of Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney of "National
Association for Free Software", aren't you? A kind of
Siju George wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 11:24 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > When I said everybody, I meant Everybody. Not one person.
> Applying the
> > same to OpenBSD, all that the people here do is bitch about and
> > nothing more.
> >
> >
>
> NO! people here are not bitchin
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:39:17PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
>
> Here is one:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-March/081313.html
>
> Notice how Theo talks about "because their firmware images were not
> free enough to ship in our releases"
>
> I suppose you can now exp
On Jan 5, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Shane J Pearson wrote:
I think the first computers I witnessed in a work place, were
actually analog computers (Navy).
Where a mix of humans, transistors, valves, gears and three-phase
motors/sensors, got the job done.;-)
They're still in use as of the lat
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Shane J Pearson wrote:
SNIP
Where a mix of humans, transistors, valves, gears and three-phase
motors/sensors, got the job done.;-)
Shane
No coal and steam?
I had to say it.
diana
On Jan 5, 2008 11:28 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the
> community which listens to the propagandas put across by both but
> wants to fight back against false marketing and for the right things
> TM.
>
This is your website
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 05:53:40PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:47:16AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:53:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:49:42PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > > > Why d
On Jan 5, 2008, at 9:53, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:47:16AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:53:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:49:42PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
Why didn't you
On Jan 5, 2008 11:24 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> all that the people here do is bitch about and
> nothing more.
>
Most of the devs in here are busy coding and not contributing to this thread.
Theo and a few others were forced to respond because their project is
being slandered a
On Jan 5, 2008 11:24 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I said everybody, I meant Everybody. Not one person. Applying the
> same to OpenBSD, all that the people here do is bitch about and
> nothing more.
>
>
NO! people here are not bitching, May be you are.
People here are setti
[slight legibility edit]
On Jan 5, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 07:30:36AM -0800, johan beisser wrote:
On Jan 5, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
I doubt I would have looked at the AROS web site myself. To find
out
the status of the BSD systems,
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:47:16AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:53:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:49:42PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
Why didn't you answer my mail Rui ?
You are a t
Unix Fan wrote:
As I've said, I think it's acceptable for free applications to run on
non-free platforms (and say that they do), because this doesn't
recommend the installation of those non-free platforms. But free
systems should not recommend, suggest, or offer
> Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated
> at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read.
>
I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
like and fight for what you believe in. Goals are just text written in
a stupid web p
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:28:24PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > You are talking about unrelated matters, and mixing our goals with the
> > ones of your own community.
> >
>
> I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the
> community which listens to the propagandas put across by
On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing
> > > non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs to
> > >
It was shareware/trialware and I am looking for the name of it...
usually it is right on my Wiki when I make notes.. but I can't find it
there yet.
L505
Kasper Revsbech wrote:
Are you willing to share the names of those programs ?
Kind regards
Kasper
L wrote:
One thing I found was that
On Jan 5, 2008 10:56 PM, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing
> > > non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs to
> > > b
On 06/01/2008, at 1:57 AM, Diana Eichert wrote:
Any EE worth their weight in salt understands signal processing. I
do believe a lot of younger engineers have grown up in the 1 & 0
digital world and forget about analog.
I think the first computers I witnessed in a work place, were actually
That's clearly a rhetorical question.
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 07:30:36AM -0800, johan beisser wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
>> I doubt I would have looked at the AROS web site myself. To find out
>> the status of the BSD systems, recently, I asked the FSF staff to
>
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:47:16AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:53:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:49:42PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > > Why didn't you answer my mail Rui ?
> > > You are a troll.
> >
> > Either I did and y
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing
> > non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs to
> > be documented for users to get their job done faster.
> >
>
> If you don't
> Again this is for RMS.
> He does not fix the problem at his end. those are
>
> 1) Apologize for slandering other projects who don't come under his control.
> 2) Do Research to find out the truth
> 3) Be practical ( Demon+wget )
>
> And all he does is is complain.
>
> 1) I made a minor mistake.
>
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 12:54:05AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > But I think the FPGAs in products are more like the possible computer
> > in my microwave oven: nobody installs software in them, so they might
> > as well be circuits.
>
> Really? All those wifi/raid/cpu/etc
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing
> > non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs to
> > be documented for users to get their job done faster.
> >
>
> If you don't
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