L wrote: > ... > The first time I heard cult mentioned was when people were complaining > about open bsd being a cult of open bsd followers, or mean rude cult > members...
I assume you are talking about this dreadful thread. Outside this thread the first time I heard cults mentioned was back in the late 1990's in the context of the M$ boosters. + outside the mainstream - yep, especially in the 90's + novel belief system - yep, making bad engineering acceptable + perceived benefits to members - yep, better products consistently avoided + headed by single "charismatic" leader - yep, though it's taken years of whitewashing full time by several PR firms to dress up an arrogant, condescending, impatient, know-nothing, rich nerd into the cult figure the press paints for us + isolationism - yep, the embrace, extend and extinguish strategy to defeat standards does succeed in cutting off the world. + dangerous and deceptive practices - yep, perjury, false advertising, the works etc. If you look at all the bizarre politics affecting use of technology going on at the state and national levels (US and EU) in regards to not applying rules of commerce or engineering to just that one "company", it fits well with how cults operate. MSFTers definitely operate quite far outside a fact-based universe. When dealing with technology, facts are more important than marketing dogma. Of the BSD's, OpenBSD and NetBSD seem the most focused on nice, dry technical material. OpenBSD has the further advantage of taking extra precautions with supplementals tools such as licenses. -Lars