On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing
> > non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs to
> > be documented for users to get their job done faster.
> >
> 
> If you don't mind users using non-free software, you shouldn't be
> putting the 'Free. ' in 'Free. Functional. Secure.'; You shouldn't be
> fighting those blob vendors and call them nasty names; Rather,
> probably document how to use such drivers and firmware 'faster'. Then
> you shouldn't be making a claim that 'OpenBSD supports openness'. If
> you can manipulate your reasons for making this ethical, you shouldn't
> be calling others names. And you shouldn't bring back ethics' dead
> body around your neck.
> 

You are talking about unrelated matters, and mixing our goals with the
ones of your own community.

OpenBSD is free software that contains no blob, no closed-source object
and that can be *fully* redistributed with no strings attached. You can
buy the cd and do whatever you want as long as you retain the copyright
on the files in it. You can take any part of OpenBSD and look at source
for it, nothing is obfuscated. You can build a full OpenBSD system from
the sources on the cvs. That's it.

What you do with it is not of our matter and we do not prevent you from
installing a proprietary software on top of it. This is your call, what
you do with what we provide you is none of our business, as long as you
do not remove the copyright notice. 


> >
> > > On a more serious note: everybody who criticizes the other of non-free
> > > software must come clean first: No clean, no talk.
> > >
> >
> > one who criticizes the other should come informed too.
> >
> 
> And the rest who do should avoid red herring arguments and accept what
> they are doing. In other words, they should say: 'I am wrong. I will
> fix the problem at my end. Your turn now.' I don't see anybody doing
> it. Don't you see how you're not doing anything but complaining? It
> doesn't make this any different.
> 

Please, show us what it is that we do and that goes against our goals
and license. Hint: carefully read the two following pages. 

        http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
        http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html

-- 
Gilles Chehade

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