Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 04:49 PM, wrote: > > Whatever happened to the Zimmerwald left? The Zimmerwald left was the subject of discussion on the list a couple of years ago.  As I noted then, none of the tendencies expressed an openly “revolutionary defeatist” position, neither Radek from the Bo

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread duen filan via groups.io
Sart - "Whatever happened to the Zimmerwald left?" We're right here, don't you know? Sart again - "The conflict between Ukraine and Russia is no more a struggle for the right of self-determination than the opposition to German occupation of Belgium or Netherlands or France was one for self-determ

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-03-02 Thread Kristin Bayrd via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 03:30 PM, workerpoet wrote: > > Maybe you should research it beyond Wikipedia. Start with the Azov > Battalions. > Yes! As you wrote in another post, there are no good guys in this war. It’s all well and good to debate everything that’s being debated in this thread, bu

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 11:30 AM, duen filan wrote: > > , "The correct revolutionary Marxist position should have been as follows: > to support fully all mass struggles and uprisings, whether armed or > unarmed, against Nazi imperialism in occupied Europe, in order to fight to > turn them into a v

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
[Edited Message Follows] [Reason: Apologies. Editorial corrections.] On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 08:02 AM, hari kumar wrote: > > I do think that just as most Marxist-Leninists and Marxists would > generally agree that the rule of an capitalist ruling class domestically > in a single state - is most u

[marxmail] Israel Halts All Aid Into Gaza as Cease-Fire Expires

2025-03-02 Thread Dennis Brasky via groups.io
The move came hours after Israel had proposed a temporary extension of the truce, though one with terms that Hamas is unlikely to accept. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/01/world/middleeast/israel-cease-fire-proposal.html https://www.juancole.com/2025/03/israeli-authorities-entering.html -=-=-=

Re: [marxmail] Rightwing conspiracy 🙄

2025-03-02 Thread Charles
Just like, on a microscopic scale in comparison, you can cite a fact about Soviet history and Trotskyite wrecking, and list members will reply, "Where'd you get that, from Grover Furr?" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#356

Re: [marxmail] No Trains, No Planes and Huge Protests: Strike Brings Greece to a Halt

2025-03-02 Thread sartesian via groups.io
Horrific collision, preventable with 100+ year old technologies-- closed track circuits and automatic block signalling systems--much less the more advanced ETCS II or the US based positive train control systems. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this grou

Re: [marxmail] No Trains, No Planes and Huge Protests: Strike Brings Greece to a Halt

2025-03-02 Thread David Walters via groups.io
I believe Sartisian was referencing the ETC I or the European Train Control System Block 2. And a system developed in the U.S. "Positive Train Controls". AT any rate, Satisian *does know* what he's talking about having worked for the rail roads for several decades. David -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

[marxmail] “Now We Have Fascists”: Howie Hawkins on Trump and the Left’s Resistance Strategy

2025-03-02 Thread Charles Keener via groups.io
“Now We Have Fascists”: Howie Hawkins on Trump and the Left’s Resistance Strategy | Спільне -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35623): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35623 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/111477085

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread dan via groups.io
With pleasure; First of all; What you write about WWII, I agree with it in general. WWII was namely a military conflict between the Allies and the Axis powers and a financial/economic conflict within the Allies between the US and the UK. I fully agree with this, so there is no difference of opini

Re: [marxmail] No Trains, No Planes and Huge Protests: Strike Brings Greece to a Halt

2025-03-02 Thread ioannis aposperites via groups.io
From google translate, but hopefully readable: Privatizations: The real culprit of the head-on collision in Tempe

Re: [marxmail] The Trump administration has no plan for Gaza other than supporting Israel’s perpetual war

2025-03-02 Thread Kristin Bayrd via groups.io
Right away, when Trump announced that he wanted the United States to take over Gaza, I knew that he was putting forward something so different and unacceptable that it would force the countries of that region to finally deal with the situation there. That is the intention, not to make it into a

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread hari kumar via groups.io
Hello Dan: Again I am not sure if you are referring to me, in addressing this note. There seem to have been many entering this discussion. However - if you are referring to me - I should briefly reply. On the basis of the on-going further dialogue - it seems clear to me that there is actually li

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Ed George via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 05:02 PM, hari kumar wrote: > > Hello Dan: > Again I am not sure if you are referring to me, in addressing this note. > As I said earlier, it facilitates discussion if people can be clear who and what they are referring to exactly. Otherwise it all gets very confusing. -

Re: [marxmail] No Trains, No Planes and Huge Protests: Strike Brings Greece to a Halt

2025-03-02 Thread hari kumar via groups.io
US systems are "more advanced..? I used to take the Amtrak from Philly to Washington regularly, struck me as quite antiquated. Influence of car industry lobby etc - was what I was thinking. Is this wrong? H -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. Vi

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 08:02 AM, hari kumar wrote: > > I do think that just as most Marxist-Leninists and Marxists would > generally agree that the rule of an capitalist ruling class domestically > in a single state - is most unlikely to be overcome by the proletarian or > toilers except by the u

Re: [marxmail] Rightwing conspiracy 🙄

2025-03-02 Thread sartesian via groups.io
Nope, never had that happen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35614): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35614 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/111471904/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneou

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-03-02 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 12:14 PM, Kristin Bayrd wrote: > > Done and done. Not really, as nothing has been done to reduce, much less minimize, much less prevent the capitalists abilities, needs, to restart the war.  Isn't that what the Marxist obligation is?  To reduce, minimize, prevent that re

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Ed George via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 11:52 AM, Ed George wrote: > > I wrote about this some years ago (< > https://edgeorgesotherblog.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/through-what-stage-are-we-passing.pdf > >; I wouldn't use all the same formulations now as I did then, but, in its > essential structure

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread dan via groups.io
A wise man on this site recently remarked that cherry picking from the past to use it in a completely different context was not allowed. Because this is nonsense, I will temporarily agree to your thesis below for arguments sake… Suppose that every "leftist" worldwide is now campaigning for revol

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Mar 2, 2025, at 11:08, dan via groups.io > wrote: > > I will temporarily agree to your thesis Whose thesis, Dan? You have been asked a few times today to please indicate who or what you are referring to. A little snippet from the message that you are responding to would do that. Mark

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Ed George via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 11:43 AM, dan wrote: > > A wise man on this site recently remarked that cherry picking from the past to > use it in a completely different context was not allowed. > It is useful if people indicate which (part of which) post they are addressing, otherwise it's impossible t

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread dan via groups.io
Thanks for the two attached links. Interesting articles and comments below! But 2 questions remain unanswered for me; why does the former East Germany vote decidedly right? and if this is a rejection of the existing status quo, why do they only place their hopes on the far right regards dan -=-=

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Charles
Engels taught us the negation of the negation. Gandall peddles self-contradictory nonsense: "China since Deng ... aspired to integrate fully into it [world imperialism, known to Gandall as the "global capitalist economy"], their ambitions stymied by China's rise as an economic competitor to the

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-03-02 Thread abraham Weizfeld PhD via groups.io
--"autonomy for Russian speakers and a defeat of NATO possible without an equivalent revolution in Russia? Is too late for the implementation of an Autonomous oblast in the Ukrainian context since such Autonomy was denied by the transformation of Kyiv into a centralized Nation-State. It is

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread dan via groups.io
A wise man on this site recently remarked that cherry picking from the past to use it in a completely different context was not allowed. Because this is nonsense, I will temporarily agree to your thesis below for arguments sake… Suppose that every "leftist" worldwide is now campaigning for revol

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Ed George via groups.io
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 07:21 PM, dan wrote: > > There have not been that many nations that have dominated the world. Can you > give me a list of when the power of an empire has been transferred to another > nation through war? > I would make the case that the period from the end of the great depr

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread Ed George via groups.io
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 02:40 PM, Mark Baugher wrote: > > I read that BSW did not break the 5% threshold nor did they win three direct > constituency seats, so they lost representation in the Bundestag that they > previously had from the Die Linke split. > I actually thought that the BSW's 5% was

Re: [marxmail] Notes on the present conjuncture in Europe (thinking out loud)

2025-03-02 Thread dan via groups.io
Most historians would place this earlier in the 20th century... and not a few see a parallel in that period with the active life of John Milton Keynes (who must have died 2 years after Breton Woods from the stress of that financial/economic struggle). But never mind, it is of no importance here..

[marxmail] Rightwing conspiracy 🙄

2025-03-02 Thread Kristin Bayrd via groups.io
Comrades, How many people here experience this: you’re talking to a Democrat (someone who supports Democrats), and you bring up some bit of information that you know is true – it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact; it can be verified easily – and the Democrat has not heard this and questions your so

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-03-02 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 11:31 AM, abraham Weizfeld PhD wrote: > > Ukraine is a terrorist State and so is the Zionist State as well. As opposed to "non-terrorist" states like Russia? Turkey? India? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply O