Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024, Corey H via mailop wrote: Hello gurus, Besides pobox.com and dnsexit.com, do you know any good smtp gateway for relaying out my messages? daily sending amount is about 3k ~ 5k (just legit messages). the two I mentioned are not bad, but they have small limits on sending

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 22Sep24, Marco Moock apparently wrote: > Am 22.09.2024 um 09:18:27 Uhr schrieb Mark Delany via mailop: > > and a lot of false negatives on ipv6, but otherwise it seems > > pretty solid. > > They don't support IPv6 at all, so no spamtrap can be hit via IPv6. Yes, that uceprotect ignores half t

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 22.09.2024 um 09:18:27 Uhr schrieb Mark Delany via mailop: > TLDR; uceprotect looks like it generates a lot of false positives on > ipv4 If you use level2/3 you will of course have false-positive, as stated in their documentation. > and a lot of false negatives on ipv6, but otherwise it seems

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 22Sep24, Bastian Blank via mailop apparently wrote: > > Ditto, they aggressively list Aussie Broadband's entire AS, > > https://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php?ipr=144.6.86.210 > > UCEProtect lists this ip in Level 2. So this not about the single IP, According to https://www.uceprotect

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Odhiambo Washington via mailop
On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 1:35 AM Corey H via mailop wrote: > Hello gurus, > > Besides pobox.com and dnsexit.com, do you know any good smtp gateway for > relaying out my messages? daily sending amount is about 3k ~ 5k (just > legit messages). > > the two I mentioned are not bad, but they have small

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Slavko via mailop
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:14:17 +0200 Bastian Blank via mailop napísal: > UCEProtect lists this ip in Level 2. So this not about the single IP, > but the whole net block (it even tells you, it's about 144.6.0.0/16). > And I found listings in Abusix for adresses within this block by > simple

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 09:14:17AM +0200, Bastian Blank via mailop wrote: > > > I might not advocate for UCEProtect as a source of truth for anything. > > > But that's just my €0.02. > > > > Ditto, they aggressively list Aussie Broadband's entire AS, > > https://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-22 Thread Bastian Blank via mailop
On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 04:37:54PM +1000, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 09:25:36AM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > > > Get a Linux machine in an AS that doesn't host abusers (check the AS > > > using http://www.uceprotect.net/de/rblcheck.php) and install yo

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
[No private replies required, list only is fine.] > It [UCEProtect, ed.] is a really good indicator how many abusive > IPv4 systems are in an AS. I am questioning their methods, their data sources, and their evaluations. It is guaranteed that they don't have visibility into everything (I am sayi

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 09:25:36AM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > > Get a Linux machine in an AS that doesn't host abusers (check the AS > > using http://www.uceprotect.net/de/rblcheck.php) and install your MTA there. > > I might not advocate for UCEProtect as a source of truth for an

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 22.09.2024 um 09:25:36 Uhr schrieb Atro Tossavainen via mailop: > > Get a Linux machine in an AS that doesn't host abusers (check the AS > > using http://www.uceprotect.net/de/rblcheck.php) and install your MTA > > there. > > I might not advocate for UCEProtect as a source of truth for anyt

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Get a Linux machine in an AS that doesn't host abusers (check the AS > using http://www.uceprotect.net/de/rblcheck.php) and install your MTA there. I might not advocate for UCEProtect as a source of truth for anything. But that's just my €0.02. -- Atro Tossavainen, Founder, Partner Koli-Lõks O

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am Sun, 22 Sep 2024 00:06 schrieb Corey H: > Besides pobox.com and dnsexit.com, do you know any good smtp gateway > for relaying out my messages? daily sending amount is about 3k ~ 5k > (just legit messages). Why don't you operate your own server? Get a Linux machine in an AS that doesn't host a

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
My volume's about the same as Corey's. Maybe a hair lower. My ISP renumbered my MTA a few months ago so I moved my outbound to Amazon SES to avoid the pain of lost sender reputation. (I blogged about that here: https://xnnd.com/ct6y ) It works, but it took a bit of getting used to. They do rewrit

Re: [mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Corey H via mailop said: >I expect it should be a pure smtp relay, change nothing in headers. We >can pay for it. I have looked and found nothing. For fairly obvious reasons, relays are picky about what they allow, and while your set of random mail may be nice, someone else's tha

[mailop] Ask for commercial smtp gateway

2024-09-21 Thread Corey H via mailop
Hello gurus, Besides pobox.com and dnsexit.com, do you know any good smtp gateway for relaying out my messages? daily sending amount is about 3k ~ 5k (just legit messages). the two I mentioned are not bad, but they have small limits on sending amount. other relays I have tried include smtp