Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
There are so many factors ... Steve emailed me from his personal account, it was INBOXed, and there was no issue, but need to see it from the production system? Office365 is not normally configured to delete mail once accepted. In some cases it can, but those are per tenant choices. Aloha,

Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Ángel
Probably everyone on this list agrees with the old "my server, my rules". Still, there is a very good point between conscious decisions taken by you (or your IT team), which could include eg. to drop any email sent from Chinese IP address, and "a black box algorithm run by a third party made your

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Dave Romerstein
We're aware of this. We're in the process of tightening up the sender authentication for Apple corporate domains, and expected to see some pain points as non-compliant internal tools are discovered and updated. Thanks for highlighting this instance. -- D ro...@apple.com On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2

Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Steve Dodd
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 19:40, Brandon Long wrote: > As much as we try, mail from Gmail is not spam free. As such, sometimes > our mail gets blocked. [..] > Thanks for the input on this - testing via a different domain and Gandi seems to be giving me similar problems, so I don't think Gmail is t

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Wow, the reduced their spf record from the full /8, probably missed some servers in the process. Or folks added some new servers and didn't know the new reality. Brandon On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 10:16 AM Udeme Ukutt I pinged someone at Apple (with the info), it’s being looked into. > > On Wed, Oct

Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
As much as we try, mail from Gmail is not spam free. As such, sometimes our mail gets blocked. Mail from third party mail clients using Gmail can be different in a variety of ways. One large one is that the IP address of the client is in the headers of the message. This is mostly for historical

Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Bill Cole > wrote: > > On 31 Oct 2018, at 12:53, Steve Dodd wrote: > >> The two recipient orgs here are actually a local govt department, and a >> state-funded charity. Would be interesting to see what a lawyer made of >> their "right" to randomly drop mail fro

Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Bill Cole
On 31 Oct 2018, at 12:53, Steve Dodd wrote: The two recipient orgs here are actually a local govt department, and a state-funded charity. Would be interesting to see what a lawyer made of their "right" to randomly drop mail from taxpaying clients. I am not specifically familiar with UK law,

Re: [mailop] *** SPAM *** Re: O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Rob McEwen
The outsourcing of too many mail systems to too few massive cloud providers - which accelerated in recent years - is starting to harm email. The pressure on these companies to be extremely profitable for shareholders and keep the profit per mailbox as high as possible - combined with them being

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Udeme Ukutt
I pinged someone at Apple (with the info), it’s being looked into. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:55 AM Eric Tykwinski wrote: > Seeing the same here: > [2018.10.31] 08:06:11 [17.151.1.241][66194430] cmd: EHLO > nwk-txn-msbadger0211.apple.com > [2018.10.31] 08:07:17 [17.151.1.244][14063806] cmd: EHLO

Re: [mailop] *** SPAM *** Re: O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Steve Dodd
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 16:44, Laura Atkins wrote: > Gmail is one of the biggest sources of spam in my inbox right now. There’s > even spamware that lets companies harvest addresses from places like > linkedin, websites and the like and then send it out through google or G > suite. But Google is

Re: [mailop] *** SPAM *** Re: O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Atkins
> On 31 Oct 2018, at 15:58, Steve Dodd wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 14:58, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop > wrote: > > I wouldn't expect freemail addresses to get a pass anywhere. > > OK, good to know - I assumed Gmail did a reasonable job of outbound spam > filteri

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
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2018-10-31 Thread Michael Rathbun
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Re: [mailop] *** SPAM *** Re: O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Steve Dodd
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 14:58, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: I wouldn't expect freemail addresses to get a pass anywhere. > OK, good to know - I assumed Gmail did a reasonable job of outbound spam filtering and therefore were likely to have reasonable rep. I had been considering using my own d

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2018-10-31 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
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[mailop] Anyone from Roadrunner that I can connect with offlist?

2018-10-31 Thread T R
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Re: [mailop] *** SPAM *** Re: O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Wed, 2018-10-31 at 14:04 +, Steve Dodd wrote: > The sender domain is gmail.com. As I said, baffled by how something with > valid Gmail DKIM & SPF could be thrown on the floor like this. I wouldn't expect freemail addresses to get a pass anywhere. Does the problem still occur when you use t

[mailop] Any Cox.net people on list?

2018-10-31 Thread Josh Nason
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Re: [mailop] O365 discarding mail after User-Agent change

2018-10-31 Thread Steve Dodd
It's been suggested to me off-list that if I mention the recipient domains I am having problems with, it might help. They are: kent.gov.uk seap.org.uk The sender domain is gmail.com. As I said, baffled by how something with valid Gmail DKIM & SPF could be thrown on the floor like this. Steve On

Re: [mailop] Google Group Spam

2018-10-31 Thread James Hoddinott
Assuming this is the same thing that we (Cloudmark) are seeing then yes, this has been going on for quite a while now and increasing in popularity as a delivery mechanism. AFAICT its mainly used with domains that are part of GSuite and you can potentially filter on a lot of those as they are obscu

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Seeing the same here: [2018.10.31] 08:06:11 [17.151.1.241][66194430] cmd: EHLO nwk-txn-msbadger0211.apple.com [2018.10.31] 08:07:17 [17.151.1.244][14063806] cmd: EHLO nwk-txn-msbadger0511.apple.com [2018.10.31] 08:25:16 [17.151.1.246][47927537] cmd: EHLO nwk-txn-msbadger0711.apple.com These are

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Udeme Ukutt
I’ve a feeling someone from Apple is on the list, but I’ve pinged someone too :) TIA, U On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:22 AM Tobi wrote: > so far they're all from their 17/8 network > Some samples: > > 17.151.1.86 > 17.151.1.45 > 17.151.1.98 > 17.171.37.90 > > which are not covered by their ~all spf

Re: [mailop] Google Group Spam

2018-10-31 Thread Arne Allisat
Hi, > Anyone seen a rise in spam from Google Groups? Yes. We see that a lot. > Reported to google but hasn't seemed to help Hm that I cannot say. We've reached out to their Zurich based outbound team. They're always responding fast and take some action. > We block

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Tobi
so far they're all from their 17/8 network Some samples: 17.151.1.86 17.151.1.45 17.151.1.98 17.171.37.90 which are not covered by their ~all spf record for domain apple.com Cheers tobi Am 31.10.18 um 12:38 schrieb Michael Wise: > Are they coming from 17/8, or somewhere else? > And if elsewher

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Joel Golliet
We can see the same kind of things today, with emails from 17.151.1.77 or 17.151.1.54 or 17.151.1.90 ...  => not listed in their actuel SPF record => SoftFail : # dig +short TXT apple.com|grep spf "v=spf1 redirect=_spf.apple.com" # dig +short TXT _spf.apple.com "v=spf1 ip4:17.151.62.66 ip4:17.1

[mailop] Google Group Spam

2018-10-31 Thread john
Hi, Anyone seen a rise in spam from Google Groups? Got an e-mail address that seems to have been added to some Google Groups that someone has created to send spam to... seems like a reasonable idea from a spammers point of view- why not let google do the sending as it will come from a more tru

Re: [mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Are they coming from 17/8, or somewhere else? And if elsewhere, can you share an IP? Aloha, Michael. — “Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed,” From: mailop on behalf of Tobi Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:29:18 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] ap

Re: [mailop] Sorbs Delisting Request

2018-10-31 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Robots reply first, if not resolved you can reply and it will go to real humans. Mostly within a few hours. Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 31 Oct 2018, at 20:18, Noel Butler wrote: > > Hi, > > I've heard when they have high volumes of mail, it can take them a c

[mailop] apple.com uses servers not covered by SPF?

2018-10-31 Thread Tobi
We're currently seeing a lot of messages from "apple.com" sender domain which are delivered via apple servers but not listed in their SPF. Did they add new servers and forgot to update their SPF? Anyone else seeing such mails? Cheers tobi ___ mailop ma

Re: [mailop] Sorbs Delisting Request

2018-10-31 Thread Noel Butler
Hi, I've heard when they have high volumes of mail, it can take them a couple of days to get to you. Though my information is about 10 years old, I dare say it's only got worse with the increase in spam so you might end up waiting a bit longer now days. Michelle might chime in on wait times i

[mailop] Sorbs Delisting Request

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