On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 19:40, Brandon Long <bl...@google.com> wrote: > As much as we try, mail from Gmail is not spam free. As such, sometimes > our mail gets blocked. [..] >
Thanks for the input on this - testing via a different domain and Gandi seems to be giving me similar problems, so I don't think Gmail is the culprit in anyway. I can't remember having a deliverability problem before.. > Perhaps mailpile is used by spammers, or maybe they use some email message > library that spammers often use, so the message composition is similar to > spammy messages. > The former is unlikely the the latter is quite possible. > Everything is terrible. > As a confirmed grumpy old man (40), thank you for the validation :) > It is wise to understand what you can control. As the saying goes, of it > hurts when you do X, stop doing X. There are a lot of mail clients you can > use. You could ask the mailpile folks to change their messages. > Yeah, trying to get my head around this one. I chose Mailpile after a fair bit of research, as the visual layout seemed to work really well for me (I struggle with sensory issues at times and a 'friendly' UI can make all the difference.) Mailpile devs are definitely contactable, though not too keen on jumping through arbitrary hoops. And I still need to find out what the hoops actually are.. > You could switch from Gmail. You can point out the issue to your > receivers. I imagine O365 gives their admins various controls to override > the spam verdicts that they could try. Gmail provides a user level filter > to whitelist mail, I'd be surprised if Outlook doesn't as well. Gmail also > learns to whitelist automatically as they keep clicking not spam, dunno > about Outlook. > Sadly some messages are just flat-out disappearing. But yes, surprised automatic whitelisting has not kicked in for these recipients based on past contacts, replies having been sent to my messages, etc., etc. I've always found Gmail's spam filtering virtually perfect, apart from mailing list messages with mangled DKIM or whatever, which are fair game. Anyway, thanks for giving me a few more things to think about! Steve
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