On 4 Apr 2013, at 10:24, Zvi Biener wrote:
Dear MM users,
Through astounding stupidity on my part, I deleted the "Personal
Inbox" and "Personal Inbox w/ Treads" mailboxes that come in the
"Examples" mailbox folder. Can one of you remind me what conditions
define those mailboxes? I actually us
On 5 Apr 2013, at 13:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 5 Apr 2013, at 18:43, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote:
Ver nice! I can now build markdown tables with images in the cells,
which is great for showing instructions with an image per
instruction. I just tested it and it works.
Note that th
CORRECTION: I neglected to make the first version a Markdown message...
Here's the demo:
On 5 Apr 2013, at 13:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 5 Apr 2013, at 18:43, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote:
Ver nice! I can now build markdown tables with images in the cells,
which is great for showing
On 5 Apr 2013, at 13:49, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 5 Apr 2013, at 19:46, Bill Cole wrote:
CORRECTION: I neglected to make the first version a Markdown
message... Here's the demo:
And it failed again. My crappy mailing list software (Mailman) strips
the `markup=markdown` part of
On 5 Apr 2013, at 13:57, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
The Content-ID is (should be) unique and therefore you cannot
reference anything you don't already know.
Content-ID suffers from collision risks akin to those seen in
Message-ID. The most important gap is that agents creating ID's have a
his
On 6 Apr 2013, at 2:11, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
It's a misfeature in concept, not merely in implementation.
On that one we'll have to agree to disagree :-)
Yes. I don't & won't let my inability to convince you that interpreting
markup in text/plain is wrong deter me from pointing out bad
You may need to use
the "Help->Send Feedback" to share a sam ple message with him to get a
fix.
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(i.e. 'application/octet-stream' content type) as plain text, and message
headers in IMAP are immutable, so you can't just modify the Content-Type header
on the relevant messages that you can trust are in fact displayable text.
I assume you know about the "View->S
the deleted but not yet expunged messages.
I thought MM had a preference to use that method, but I can't find it at
the moment.
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quot; item which lets you
select which mailbox to search by default. At the top of the mailbox
list there is a "Current Mailbox" option.
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o tell MailMate to do this if that's what's required. Or
if there's a way in the software itself, that would be wonderful as
well.
Any thoughts?
Yes. Based on something Bill Cole mentioned a while back I set up a
virtual folder to collect such messages with a condition
don't see the message in the new location
until you resynch the new location.
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On 2022-04-29 at 08:28:29 UTC-0400 (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:28:29 -0700)
Randall Gellens
is rumored to have said:
On 28 Apr 2022, at 20:02, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2022-04-28 at 18:03:47 UTC-0400 (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:03:47 -0700)
Randall Gellens
is rumored to have said:
This is what I do for all
could not be invoked.
Suggestions anyone?
I assume that you've restarted MailMate since deleting the actual file.
If not, do that.
If you already tried that, you can do a rebuild of the database from
what's actually on disk. That process is documented in the Help, linked
from
om what actually is in place on the server. Synchronize
did not do it; reset could not be invoked.
Suggestions anyone?
TIA
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ass of Python errors in what they received
from me, so I suspect that it's appearing just fine to them. And as I
said, this doesn't happen all the time and I don't know what causes
it.
What is happening?
Shoshanna Green
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the hotkey. The obvious top candidate is the Shortcuts panel of the
Keyboard pane in System Preferences.
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like a lot for client-side message store
wrangling is (not free) Emailchemy: https://weirdkid.com/emailchemy/.
Alternatively, you COULD use MM to export your entire message store in a
form that it can re-import. Then you would switch the settings, let MM
wipe out its cache, and import the messa
On 2022-09-06 at 10:14:25 UTC-0400 (Tue, 6 Sep 2022 15:14:25 +0100)
David Ledger
is rumored to have said:
One of my MlMt filters looks for regularly used non-English words or
Chinese characters. Looking for likely characters in recent Chinese
spam I found, in html view:
implementation.
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sending (sent mail, whoosh effect) are the only two
sounds it seems that MailMate responds with, so why not allow
customization?
Once again, the answer hides in the widely-mystifying "Counters" pane of
MM Preferences.
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confusing MM users for a decade. I
understand why Benny did it that way, as it makes sense from a coding
point of view. I don't have any brilliant ideas for a different way to
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ear in the "User"
subsection of the Sound pull-down menu in that pane.
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utilized easily. In this case you probably have
> to build up a custom syntax.
The format string in that pane is only to customize what MM sends to the macOS
Notification Manager to announce a new arrival. I've never seen any need to
modify that.
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Running latest test build r5922, 99% certain it wasn't in r5920.
"View->Show Raw Message" switches the message to black on grey as before, but
now there's a superfluous HTML wrapper around what appears to be the original
raw message.
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s with MailMate 1.13.2 (5673).
This behavior changed with the 'new' message view implementation (atop
WKWebView) in the r5852 beta release.
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for this might have changed in recent months?
>
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o' is greyed is that it is selected as the
"Outline Column," the column which is decorated to do thread
organization.
Select some other column as the Outline Column and I believe that you'll
be able to remove To from the display and to save that as the default.
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Working fine for me: r5933 on a 2018 MBP 13" with Catalina
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. I believe
configd always writes in binary these days, but forward compatibility is
likely to always exist.
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transparently opens and displays the contents of any bz2 or
gzip-compressed files (“.bz2”, “.gz” and “.gzip” files),
as well as
tarballs (“.tar” files) and binary plists (“.plist” files),
both
directly and during multi-file search.
!
That must be new-ish.
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, if those are messages you need to keep and you're evacuating
an old system for a new one, you will need to save them somewhere other
than on the new mail system, e.g. export it to a file outside of
MailMate.
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idea what could’ve happened here. My MacOS has not changed
(MacOS 13.2.1 Ventura 22D68 release).
Benny apparently hasn't put anything newer than r5950 into the automated
update system yet.
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ll to
allowsSpecificHTTPSCertificateForHost
2023-03-17 13:04:45.620 MailMate[93138:4154046] nil host used in call to
allowsAnyHTTPSCertificateForHost:
Warning: IMAP connection terminated during action (1000).
Fatal: Non-unique identifier used for callback (imap_mailbox_t:Archives)
Abort trap: 6
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x27;m still
seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen.
It's what you get for upgrading to a test release manually. 5958 is
later than the latest official "Test Build" seen by the update
machinery.
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another can be as
simple as dragging messages from one account to another in MM.
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setting. ? It doesn’t
happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2.
There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny
is at:
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html
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archives into a format that MM could import,
and did so into a dummy account which has bogus server settings and is
permanently offline. It's a de facto local folder.
(But I also run my own Dovecot server for personal recent mail.)
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ll the details...
If you like free GUI tools instead, see
https://objective-see.org/products/whatsyoursign.html for a gadget that
adds a "Signing Info" item to the Finder contextual menu, which you can
use to get info like the attached image.
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Preferences->General) and MailMate created a symlink in
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/ to the absolute pathname of
wherever you set the real folder to live. Copying broke the link, which
is most likely rooted in /Users/yourusername/ (which is now your home
dir on the Catalina volu
wer OR has a In-Reply-To or References header citing a
message ID of a message you sent.
I think I would do that by way of a custom keyword, but I haven't
thought it through completely. (and won't, because I'm mostly incapable
of doing deadlines usefully.)
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On 2023-05-18 at 20:17:24 UTC-0400 (Fri, 19 May 2023 12:17:24 +1200)
Malcolm Fitzgerald
is rumored to have said:
> The dialog displays "Conditions" across the top, nothing else.
Does it not also have "Submailboxes" and "Rules" tabs?
Can you provi
e includes both Conditions and Actions.
I do not understand the utility of that column, nor of rules that lack
either component.
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large mail stores are inherently tough to search.
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Messages" type folder, they
could hypothetically be triggered to move messages elsewhere as they land there.
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ible
participant attribute in your original issue, a list of "client unsubscribed"
IMAP mailboxes. Those are mailboxes that are in the server-side "subscribed"
list but which you don't want retrieved by THIS instance of MM.
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x27;hashbusters' and such.
IMO the use-case search *1+ million emails as fast as possible* is
just not in scope for most of the clients.
Right, because most users do not need that. I don't know that any mail
client does it as well as MM with the same search capabilities.
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ork,) you can
disable that generally. For any individual message, you can switch
signing and encryption on and off using the little icons in the toolbar
of the compose window as shown in the attached images.
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5969 stable enough to jump to?
Nope.
I've tried each of the not-even-test-versions 5965-5970 currently
visible in the 'archives' directory and all crash on launch on Big Sur.
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t;> recommend that you check your iCloud.
>>>>
>>>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 19:55, Jo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My error message suggests I might need an app specific password which I
>>>>> vaguely remember doing before,
crashed repeatedly, so I think something is very
wrong in that general area...
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shows a segfault instantly, without any sort of message from MM. Unclear
whether any reports were sent.
I rolled back to r5978 and all is working as expected.
Same here.
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huge mailbox
on a rate-limited server (e.g. freebie GMail) it is adequately fast.
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e you have a different target for the Messages symlink.
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nothing really special in setting it up. Same config as
my free GMail accounts.
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lost. HTML does not require that all IMG tags must have size
attributes and incorrect height and width must be accommodated, so a
sender could just give bogus dimensions in the tag to avoid blocking.
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On 2023-11-20 at 11:49:52 UTC-0500 (Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:49:52 -0500)
Alex Abdo
is rumored to have said:
16:46:58 S: A3 BAD User is authenticated but not connected.
That is an error unique to Microsoft. Only Microsoft (or *maybe* your
Exchange admin) can fix it.
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on a 2018 MBP running
Big Sur.
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(r5964) that you can get in MM by pressing
the Option key when checking for a new release or even the latest risky
snapshot build (r6002) that you have to go looking for at
https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/
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IDVALIDITY at this point in its
history, as it is logically quite simple to do correctly.
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round the quirks of how
Mailman can munge headers. I hope he does not make that attempt, as it
is likely to have a remarkably large number of edge and corner cases.
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weeks without MM crashing or behaving in grossly poor ways.
And I *THINK* that the superannuated breakage in layout preservation may
have been finally gone away.
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sing the localization settings
accessible in the Language & Region preferences panel of the System
Preferences. If the macOS setting for your locale doesn't give you what
you want, the Advanced button in that panel lets you set whatever
formats you want.
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a long-time bug that causes MM to sometimes forget UI settings for
the message list.
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years old, and I set MM (in Preferences->Composer) to reference that
mailbox instead of my 30-year Sent mailbox.
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them.
(which is almost empty), as I distribute them in the relevant
mailboxes (and I don’t .cc myself when I send a message, as it
unnecessarily duplicates emails).
Alain
On 27 Jan 2024, at 19:14, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2024-01-27 at 12:59:19 UTC-0500 (Sat, 27 Jan 2024 09:59:19 -0800)
Jo
is
es, but I think that you are missing the fact that you can create a smart
mailbox aggregating the messages of other (colored-message) smart mailboxes.
The messages keep the color assigned by the parent mailbox.
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.
The best part of it is that it does not require the creation and
maintenance of a bespoke PList, but rather operates within the app with
a proper UI.
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Would that help? I occasionally need to use Gmail
>> to do so, for example, on my phone (though I also just started testing
>> Preside on iOS).
>>
>> Thanks for any help!
>>
>> Devyn
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message, some fully collapsed despite having unread
messages one or two levels down, and some expanded to reveal all unread
messages.
I do not see any UI that would help tune this in any way. My ideal
behavior would be to have threads expanded by default to reveal any
unread messages.
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. Instead, I would like all
unread messages to be directly visible in expanded threads.
Right, that is what I meant: expand all threads that have unread
messages should be expanded to make all unread messages visible.
On 28 Feb 2024, at 11:57, Bill Cole wrote:
Is it just me or is the logic
ne, I have nothing that
is clearly a thread expand tool or anything that I would naturally
consider the 'other one' but that's fine because I wasn't referring to
how widgets expanded threads.
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e to see MM
have a simple way to pick additional headers to show, because which ones
are useful can be very site-specific and user-specific.
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how rare.
That's why you can search for any header.
It is entirely a display issue. It was once possible to modify the
header layout of the message view by overriding it with a plist
somewhere in Application Support/MailMate/, but I believe Benny broke
that at some point.
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s the IMAP IDLE
commmand to stay online with a mailbox selected so that new messages are
notified immediately.
How well that works is server-dependent. Some IMAP servers are very slow
with 'live' notifications on idle.
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ivacy-threatening.
It replaces the real text with "lorem ipsum" latin(ish) text in a pattern that
is different on each invocation but is internally uniform so that you can
identify the same subjects and users in a distorted view.
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rd email headers can have very complicated structures, but they
are rigorously defined and so can be decomposed quite reliably into
logical parts. The possible formats of the "From" header are
mind-numbingly complex and some senders play games with that complexity.
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lected set of messages to a
directory full of individual messages or a mbox file.
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reformat how addresses are shown in the "From:" pull-down menu. See the
attached (severely compressed) image. It shows my 11 configured
accounts, including 2 ("Personal" and "GMail") which each have 2
specific addresses configured (in addition to each h
lMate MmSMTPAlternativeEnabled
-bool YES"
Ooooh... I like that. News to me. Thanks!
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ults read com.freron.MailMate" ) on
both Macs and comparing them.
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Alain
On 28 May 2024, at 16:35, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2024-05-28 at 08:52:22 UTC-0400 (Tue, 28 May 2024 08:52:22 -0400)
Verdon Vaillancourt
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It’s possibly MailMate, but more likely the server wherever the
original email account
p//Contents/Resources/MmMessageList{v,V}iew
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me convert the primary data partition to case-sensitive. I
definitely would not recommend that anyone who doesn't need to restore
from a pre-existing case-sensitive account backup go through the
somewhat nerve-wracking process of making it work.
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. If we've
reached the point where we need a supervisory program asking confirmation for
every intentional link we have lost the security battle.
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their authentication systems. It is good that there is an open-ish
process/standard (CASA) that hopefully will be common to all providers who
demand this sort of thing, but the whole concept remains at odds with
traditional core principles of the Internet.
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re. It is very unsafe to view any for-profit corporation as a
friend. They cannot be your friends. It is alien to their nature.
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the
Composer pane where there's a checkbox for using Contacts in addition to
a mailbox to feed auto-complete.
I would NOT expect that setting to control whether Contacts are usable
in rules, but it MIGHT.
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(AKA @grumpybozo@toad.soc
t can remove the CRLF within a
paragraph and reflow as appropriate. Lines that are fixed width are
marked so displaying clients know not to reflow them. It also marks
quote levels.
--Randall
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ng r6047 on both Monterey and Sonoma and have
seen no crashes or other problems in the past day since its release.
Prior to that I have used most of the test builds for the past couple of
years and have had only a tiny number of problems.
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On 2024-07-01 at 20:10:10 UTC-0400 (Mon, 01 Jul 2024 17:10:10 -0700)
Paul Hoffman
is rumored to have said:
On 1 Jul 2024, at 12:55, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2024-07-01 at 12:41:55 UTC-0400 (Mon, 01 Jul 2024 09:41:55 -0700)
Paul Hoffman
is rumored to have said:
On 1 Jul 2024, at 2:41, Benny
mewhere in ~Library/Application Support/MailMate/
that you can add your own and/or override Benny's, but I'm not sure
where.
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