There's a bit of personal preference as well. I generally use just the arrow
keys to navigate the table and VO-j to jump to the format inspector. Using just
the arrow keys will move you through just the visible cells (visible meaning
those that haven't been hidden). This is generally a good thin
I can only speak for entering text into form fields, specifically text fields.
To do that you just type as normal.
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he table's name
from something which is a little complicated, saving you from retyping much of
it.
On 4 Sep 2014, at 10:33 pm, Nicholas Parsons
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> You can get the script from my blog. I suggest using it with the VoiceOver
> keyboard commander or with Keyboard Maestro.
>
&
Hi,
I've been playing around with Omni Outliner for Mac. I seem to be having
difficulty getting into the editing mode or problems with focus or something.
Sometimes I'm able to create new items just by pressing return and typing, and
then I can move them around with control-command and arrow ke
Hi,
Does anyone know if screen sharing is accessible with VoiceOver and/or if it's
possible to remotely control a MacMini running OS X Server with VoiceOver? And
by remotely I mean from the same network but without plugging in a keyboard or
anything to the MacMini.
When I select the server fro
How would you be any better off if told your device didn't support the upgrade
at all compared with being able to upgrade but not use all features? At least
some of the features are available and some new features are surely better than
no new features? Anyway, whether or not you upgrade is a ch
You don't need to select the column before hiding or un-hiding it. You just
need to have navigated to a column (i.e. have any cell in a column selected)
before you hide the column.
You can hide the column either in the table menu or in the context menu (which
you open with VO-shift-m).
To unhide
g a
> promotion on DFPen, and I hate having to switch over to Windows to get proper
> layout and reading of headings in my PDF documents.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Nicholas Parsons
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah,
1. VoiceOver doesn't read the contents of merged cells automatically (which is
a real pain), but if you're on the left-most and up-most cell of the merged
range and press VO-F3 VoiceOver will read the contents. It's a bit flaky but
you just need to play around with it.
2. The inspector is perman
t; Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know if screen sharing is accessible with VoiceOver and/or if
>> it's possible to remotely control a Ma
er. Yes, the Server app is very accessible. The only area I have
> difficulties with is the Statistics, so, I just ignore it anyway, they're not
> that important to me.
>
> HTH.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:44
I'm not sure that even PDFPen would do what you want it to do (i.e. integrate
with Safari and allow you to fill out the form without first downloading it).
Also, PDFPen only works with properly tagged interactive PDF forms, and there's
no guarantee that your work has properly tagged the PDF form
In iOS 8.0.2 I am unable to send new messages composed in apps other than Mail
while using VoiceOver. I double tap the send button but nothing happens. This
is regardless of whether I get to the send button by swiping or by explore by
touch. If I locate the send button, turn off VoiceOver and th
Yes, very possible. You use the same commands in fact. To help, however, you
might like to enable "Group items within" for "When navigating web tables" in
VoiceOver Utility > Web > Navigation. that is what I do.
On 11 Jan 2014, at 3:20 pm, Faisal wrote:
Hi all,
Is it possible to navigate table
To add to what Tim said (which was completely correct, of course), you can also
merge cells from the context menu which you activate with VO-shift-m. However,
whichever method you use, note that
VoiceOver will not announce that the cells are merged if you hold down the VO
keys to navigate; and
V
Yes, as I said originally, the problem only occurs when sending messages from
apps other than Mail or Messages. Sending messages from within Mail or Messages
is fine. It's when I send from other apps using the share sheet (e.g. mBraille,
Contacts, various RSS clients, Safari) that the problem ar
If you were able to enter text directly into the PDF on the PC, then you would
be able to fill in the PDF directly on the Mac using PDFPen 6.3 and later.
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Thanks, Sabahattin, magical things did happen when I switched to list view.
VoiceOver could suddenly see the connect/disconnect button. How odd that it
doesn't appear in column view.
On 29 Sep 2014, at 8:34 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> As to having difficulties accessing the connect butto
Hi,
Anyone know whether it is possible to script VoiceOver Utility with
AppleScript? I think the answer is no, but thought I'd check. I suppose it
would be possible to use GUI scripting, but I don't think I can be bothered
with that--too messy. I'm mainly interested in toggling the output sourc
Hi Gigi,
I use 1Password 4 on Mountain Lion and now Mavericks, as well as the 1Password
iOS app on iOS 7 and now iOS 8.
Basically, it works fine for me. There are some interface elements that are not
very VoiceOver friendly. For instance, the 1Password Safari extension is
annoying to use. Howe
To start with, just so we are all clear, VoiceOver sound can be output to the
same device as the system or can be controlled independently of the system. The
control is under the Sounds pane of VoiceOver Utility. I prefer to have mine
controlled independently. Just because I want music or movies
Actually it is possible. There was another thread on this not too long ago
where the steps and possible difficulties were discussed in detail. You might
be able to Google it.
Essentially just pressing space on them works, even though VoiceOver gives no
feedback. However, I found that this only
I'm using Mail 8.0 on OS X Yosemite in the Classic view. When I open a Mail
message as part of a conversation thread and interact with it, there is the
header view on the left, then four unlabelled buttons and then the text of the
message. Does anyone know what those buttons are? If so, I'll lab
1Password will remember your Apple ID and log you into any Apple website for
which you need your Apple ID, but 1Password won't be able to enter your Apple
ID into the dialog box for iTunes, iBooks, FaceTime, Mail, Internet Accounts,
etcetera. So I'd recommend making your Apple ID password someth
PDFPen is available as a free trial download, so you might try your form with
the free demo before you decide to buy, or if its just a one off thing then the
demo version might do the trick for you.
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Hi Alex,
It is happening in threaded conversations, though I don't know if that is
essential for this behaviour. It's a little flaky. Try pressing VO-right arrow
to the text, then VO-left arrow to the header area, then VO-right arrow again
and see if you come across the buttons.
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I haven't quite read every post in this thread, but to contribute my two cents
to help our understanding:
I am running iOS 8.0.2 on an iPHone 6 and Yosemite on a mid 2011 MacBook Air
and I am able to answer and make cellular calls on my MacBook. This is a relief
as I only read last night that my
Try one more thing. I think I can get it to happen consistently now.
Interact with the message, then immediately press VO-left arrow, and then press
VO-right arrow. Pressing VO-left arrow first to the header area rather than the
message text seems to then make the buttons appear.
If you still don
Well, I thought it only did that when performing OCR, not when filling out
forms, but I'm not sure. It was a little embarrassing, actually. I printed off
some documents for work using the versions I had OCR-ed with the demo version
of PDFPen, and my boss couldn't work out why there were smiley f
Yes, the previous recipients list is a good way to go. You also used to be able
to bring the mouse pointer while you're typing and control-click the mouse to
get more options. However, under Yosemite this doesn't seem to work. Although
it might be that I was just doing something differently whe
Mail 8.0 is working well for me, though in Classic view all messages seem to be
marked as conversations whether they are or not, and in standard view they are
all marked as unread whether they are or not. However, I like the fact that the
unread status is back to the beginning of the info announ
Hi Ann,
Thanks for the update. I’ll send a note to Apple Accessibility saying I’ve
experienced it as well.
Anything else to report with Pages? How are those paragraph style buttons now?
They seemed to change with every minor update to Pages under Mavericks. And I
read that while mail merge is
So do you have any idea what those buttons are?
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After a little more playing, it seems this might have something to do with the
size of the file and the time it takes to load. One of those files I am now
able to read, so it might be that it just took a long time to load, which would
still be a shame as one of the best things about the Mac was
Hi list,
Yesterday someone else wrote about being unable to read some PDFs. We all
assumed this was because the PDFs were images and had not been through an OCR
process. I think we were wrong.
I've been finding some PDFs today at work which VoiceOver will not read. It
just says “PDF static tex
at 08:30, Nicholas Parsons <mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> How are those paragraph style buttons now? They seemed to change with every
> minor update to Pages under Mavericks.
The menu button to the right of the paragraph style name in the table is once
m
Thanks all. I’ll try the work around next time I come across the issue, and
will definitely report to Apple. I’d like a bit more information, however,
before reporting, so that I can give them exact steps to reproduce the bug. I
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Hi Anne,
I've been tempted to do a clean install for that reason. I didn't do it this
time as they don't make it so easy anymore and I didn't want too much
distraction while I'm finishing my thesis. Once I've submitted it, however, I
might just give it a go. What do you think is the best way of
I’ve noticed a couple of bugs with VoiceOver and AppleScript dialog boxes since
upgrading to Yosemite, and am interested whether anyone else has noticed the
same thing.
First, VoiceOver sometimes does not announce that the dialog box has appeared.
It used to be that a system sound would indicat
Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good
enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the
home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you
hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers.
Excellent, thank you!
On 22 Jan 2014, at 8:10 pm, Dean Adams wrote:
Hi All,
Here is what the buttons are that are unlabelled in yosemti mail you
can lable them with V O Slash .
Unlabelled Buttons in Yosemeti mail
There are four unlabled buttons in yoesemit mail once you open an email
Hi all,
Can someone please confirm they can reproduce this bug?
It seems as if TextEdit is now in landscape (or horizontal) layout by default.
I only noticed this when a sighted colleague mentioned it after I printed
something.
Open a document in TextEdit which has at least two lines of text.
G
Okay, thanks, Ray. Given that it doesn’t seem to be some problem unique to my
scripts, I’ll report it to Apple Accessibility. For the record, I should note
that I have been experiencing this on my 2011 iMac 16GB RAM quad core i5 and my
2011 MacBook Air 4GB RAM with 1.7GHz i5 processor.
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Thanks for confirming. It’s always good to know it’s not just me with some
unique combination of weird settings enabled or that I’m just missing something
obvious. And no, I haven’t noticed this in any other apps. I just tested Pages
and the layout is still portrate by default, and I’m unable to
Hi list,
Am I right that selecting text in Preview no longer works, or no longer works
as well, in Yosemite? I was just getting used to doing it in Mavericks with
VO-return, and now it seems to be broken.
Open a text-based PDF in Preview;
Press VO-return to start selection;
Use VO keys to navig
Hi Barry,
I don’t think it is. For one, it says vertical layout, not vertical text.
Secondly, I was told when I printer with horizontal layout that my page was in
landscape layout. When I then printed in vertical layout, I was told that I had
fixed the problem and my page was in portrait layout
There is no Audible download manager or any other specific app for downloading
Audible books on the Mac.
You cannot download Audible books with iTunes. You can buy Audible books with
iTunes, though the prices are much more expensive and you cannot use your
Audible membership credits, and you can
Christopher, do you not have the problem with text echo when typing in the
dialog box?
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For me in Yosemite, in Classic View all messages are announced as
conversations, even if they are not. IN standard view, on the other hand, the
read/unread status is back to the beginning of what VoiceOver announces, but
for me VoiceOver announces all messages as unread, even if they are in fact
Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to
be right that make layout vertical is for languages that write vertically.
However, I still can’t reconcile that with what I was told by sighted
colleagues that it changed the page layout from landscape to portrait.
Hi list,
This bug has been discussed before in relation to Pages, but this is the first
time I’ve noticed it in TextEdit. Just tried to select a paragraph in TextEdit
which wrapped over a page. It didn’t work. I was left selecting only the
portion of the text on the second page. IN fact, when I
Awesome, thanks, Anne! Seeing I have already installed Yosemite, but have a
copy of the Install OS X Yosemite.app on a USB drive, should I replace the
reference to /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app to use the file path to
the app on my other USB device? And I notice that the terminal co
I too can open links in Mail just fine.
I am running Yosemite.
I have Mail in Classic view, but I have conversations (i.e. group related
messages) enabled.
I use command-o to open messages.
I don't think it's relevant to classic view, but I have preview pane turned off
when I switch to standard v
Hi Anne (and others),
yes, my way is certainly more convoluted. Your way is much simpler. I used to
do it that way too, at least whenever the automatic download feature didn't
work. However, more recently that stopped working for me, hence the resort to
the more convoluted method.
Certainly an
P.S. That TextEdit site had a bunch of other useful stuff on it well worth
reading.
On 24 Jan 2014, at 8:57 pm, Nicholas Parsons
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Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to
be right that make layout vertical is for languages that write vertically
Haha, okay, I thought you might say that. Was hoping to avoid the need for
copying that 6GB file more than I needed to, but I suppose you're right, it
will be much easier and probably worth the time to get an installation drive.
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Okay, thanks, switching to wrap to window worked. I remember some people having
issue with this in Mavericks. Was it wrap to window that gave issues or wrap to
page?
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Strange indeed. The issue I was getting with not being able to copy at all I
think was related to having just performed a search. I’m guessing some kind of
search dialog pops up which blocks the view or for some reason stops one from
being able to copy text. I couldn’t work out how to make the s
They haven't broken numbers. There seem to be some slight changes when entering
formulae, but nothing dramatic. I use Numbers a lot and can still use it the
same in Yosemite.
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Okay, thanks, Cheryl, I’ll look into these.
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I also don't bother with the accessible site. I have a Hazel rule set to import
downloaded Audible books into iTunes and then trash the original file. This is
nice and clean and avoids duplicates if, like me, you have iTunes set to copy
imported media into your iTunes library.
Cheryl, do a spee
I also confirm the work around has worked for me.
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Hi List,
Since upgrading to Yosemite, whenever I navigate to the “Open in” sub-menu of
the context menu when trying to open a file in a non-default application,
VoiceOver says “Fetching…”, and there is a second or so delay before the list
of applications appears. Are others experiencing this? I
It happens with me regularly. Sometimes the delay is longer than others. I
wonder if it depends on how recently you’ve opened that type of file in a
different application, or how many applications you have that can open that
type of file.
Also, interested in whether anyone with good vision can
HI Ricardo,
Have you actually used bluetooth headsets with VoiceOver like this successfully
or are you just talking in theory at the moment?
If this worked, it would be some improvement at least, but not a complete
solution. One of the reasons I want a bluetooth headset is so I can hear
VoiceO
Yep, and SuperDuper is completely accessible.
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Drag and drop works perfectly for me in Mail with signatures. You just need to
remember to turn curser tracking off when you're navigating to the account in
which you want to paste the signature, and move the mouse curser there with
VO-Command-F5.
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Hi,
I've got a whole lot of Kindle book samples. I sent them from the Amazon/Kindle
website on Safari on my Mac to my iPhone. I can see all the books on the home
screen on the device tab. However, when I tap on a book, nothing happens. The
book doesn't open and doesn't start downloading. Well,
Hi Mike,
I was just reading a Kindle book on my iPhone and realised that you can get the
print page number.
Just double tap to bring up the menu. Then tap near the bottom of the screen
and/or swipe right to the last element on the screen. It gives you a
percentage, then the print page number,
Okay, this is a problem I've been having for a while, but it's so weird and
difficult to describe I've avoided posting on here about it. But it's really
annoying me now and I want to get to the bottom of it. I haven't yet contacted
Apple Care or accessibil...@apple.com because I want to better u
I recommend WordPress and even more highly recommend using WordPress with Mars
Edit, the blog editor app for Mac. It makes things really easy and accessible.
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Thanks, Alex, for your help.
I just tried deleting the apps. Problem still the same.
I'm a little reluctant to reset the settings. Don't really like the thought of
having to set everything up again. Would this include Mail, Contacts and
Calendars? If it didn't fix the problem, would I be able t
Yes, exactly. I already have reset and restored and the problem was restored
along with the settings. Alex's suggestion of resetting the settings and not
restoring might solve the problem. My concern is if it doesn't for some reason
solve the problem I will want all my settings back lol. I could
Yes, the cloud sounds best. I think you can just navigate to the mailbox in
your mailbox list, go to the menu bar, message, move to, and choose your
IMAP/cloud account. Once you've done this you probably need to wait a bit to
let Mail make the move, otherwise you might lose messages. You can che
Ray,
We were talking about simply resetting the iPHone's settings, not all the data.
When you just reset the settings you don't go through that set up process
again. In fact, now I think of it I'm not even sure you lose VoiceOver when
doing this. I'm pretty sure I've done it before for someone e
HI,
Some of the sample kindle books I've sent to my iPhone are showing up in the
device tab but are unable to be downloaded or opened. For some, I've simply
asked for the sample again through Safari, and it has worked. For others
though, even though I ask for the sample again nothing happens or
Hi,
I tried deleting from app switcher and restarting, with no luck. I tried
re-ordering the samples from Safari. This worked for one book, but not others.
So I'm going to try and delete some samples and then request them again. NOt
sure how to do this though.
Nic
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That's what I thought, but I don't get the actions menu in the router for these
samples which are not downloading or opening. I do get the actions menu for
other books, just not the ones which are having problems.
Anyway, the problem is now largely resolved. I've re-added the samples and
they'v
Hi Jürgen,
I've used DocuScan for a while. I've used it fairly recently and it worked
fine. I just used it now in response to what you've said and I got the exact
same result as you. I doubt DoscuScan is completely dead, but perhaps they're
having server issues or something. Have you checked th
Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties,
you can also try the following:
• Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop
with Command-L as Tim said.
• Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
• Navigat
Those are great instructions by tracy. I never new about select mode – I'll
have to try it out. There's one more way though which I'll contribute.
When you're on the text you want to copy, turn off QuickNav. Then you can use
shift-command-right-arrow to select that line. Hold down the shift key
There's also a bunch of uninstaller apps you can get which remove all files
associated with an app when you trash it. AppClean, CleanApp, AppDelete are
some examples.
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Hi Ricardo,
How well does the Jawbone work with your Mac? Can you have VoiceOver through
the Jawbone and system sound through the built in speakers? Can you turn the
Jawbone on and off without losing VoiceOver?
Thanks,
Nic
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DocuScan is working normally for me again. Whatever the problem was, it seems
to have fixed itself.
Shame that it doesn't support German.
Nic
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Hi Becky,
I don't know anything about eBook Buffet. Does it work with Kindle somehow? I
thought the Kindle app only worked with books you buy through the Amazon Kindle
Store or with books you email to yourself through your whisper sync Kindle
email address.
Did you check under both the cloud a
Hi Maria,
Once you have scanned a document with DocuScan it is automatically converted
with OCR and you can read it from an HTML area within the app. In addition, you
have the following options:
• Email
• Send to Kindel
•Make Daisy book
• Make MP3
Apple also announced today that they will be introducing iBooks for the Mac in
the new OS X coming out later this year called Mavericks. One of its features
is that when you quote text from the book it automatically inserts a citation
for you. This is pretty awesome. I hope it's accessible with
No, there's no way for AudiobookBinder to keep them as mp3 files. The main
point of AudiobookBinder is to convert them to m4b files so that iTunes
recognises them as audiobooks.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what the add to documents feature is about to tell you the
truth. When scanning a new document, you have the choice of a simple scan or a
batch scan. A simple scan allows you to scan multiple pages into one document.
After you've scanned a page, it gives you the option to resc
Also, apparently when you quote from iBooks on the Mac it will automatically
insert a citation for you. I assume this means when you copy and paste. I too
really, really hope it's accessible. I'm pretty sure it will be or, at least,
they'll make it accessible sooner or later.
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I think the suggestions are fair enough. They're all good things but as was
said it's a matter of opinion and people will differ.
Personally, I think Dropbox is a more than adequate replacement to a file
management system. In fact it's much better than anything Apple could do as
it's cross plat
I also like Mars Edit. It's much easier than using the web app in my opinion. I
also use MultiMarkdown Composer II. I write my articles in MultiMarkdown
Composer II and then copy and paste the HTML into Mars Edit, tweak it and then
post to my WordPress blog. Nice and easy.
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Maybe you should wait for Mavericks anyway.
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HI Brian,
DocuScan Plus gives me fantastic results for mail such as letters, brochures
and even credit cards and the like. One thing it does which is really good is
that it ignores images and the like and just gives you the text. Most other
programs I've used get really confused with images and
I'm mainly just hoping for bug fixes in iOS7. I want to be able to tell which
calendars are selected in Calendar and which are not. I don't want funny focus
issues in Contacts, etcetera. The biggest changes seem cosmetic, which is great
for everyone else but meaningless for me. Well, in fact, th
I wish there was an option to kill all the graphics when VoiceOver was on so
you could save battery life. I also don't know exactly what effect VoiceOver
would have, but I doubt it's very much at all. The big thing is graphics so far
as I know.
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I would get it if it had NFC or some cool mobile wallet technology. I'd also be
keen for better battery life. I don't care too much about a faster processor as
this seems to often balance out with more pixels in the display. Plus, my 4S
currently seems to run all my apps fast enough. I was about
I don't know how to solve this problem of yours, but the way I read Mail
conversations I don't ever encounter the problem. When I get to a conversation
in the messages table, I just command-O to open it. By default I end up in one
of the messages. To read another message in the conversation I ju
This problem has been documented by Joe Kissell in some detail in his book Take
Control of Apple Mail on the iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch. Basically, it stems
from the fact that gmail and Apple Mail have different ideas about deleting and
archiving. How gmail operates also depends on whether you'
Everyone has always had the iWorks tab in iCloud. However, this has only ever
been to add and remove iWorks document from your iCloud. Prior to Mountain Lion
iCloud documents wouldn't sync from iOS to Mac, you had to go to the iCloud
website and drag the documents from the cloud to your Mac. Tha
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