The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have noticed that the escape key doesn't do very much on the Mac anyway. Just thought about it in the light of our recent discussions. Kawal. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of th

RE: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mary, Thanks for sending this out, It’s very interesting. I just had a thought though. For people such as myself who have bootcamp setup with windows 10 in my case, How will the touch bar handle bootcamp running windows environments? I wonder if apple are going to produce drivers for windo

Re: Vertical Splitter

2016-10-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Horizontal and vertical splitters are lines drawn on the screen to create separate areas. Moving the splitters can make an area wider or narrower, taller or shorter. This can affect the amount of information held in that area. For instance, in Mail, moving a splitter can get rid of the preview pa

Re: Strange behaviour when loging-in in OS Sierra

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Hansen
I completely wiped the drive and started from scratch. At this point, the only thing that isn’t straight from the factory, is my mail settings, and that I’m signed in to iTunes. Blessings, Brian > On Oct 29, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > So when you say you did a clean install

Re: Vertical Splitter

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hi Anne, Thanks for that. I hate when Mail mark stuff read after I arrow threw the message list. I never new how to get rid of the preview pain, collapsing the vertical splitter did the job. Once again, thanks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my Macbook Pro Contact: Phone: Private

Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis

2016-10-29 Thread David Chittenden
Yep, blindness, which includes vision level of 20/200 (6/60) is less than 0.5% of the total population. So, less than 0.5% of Apple's customers use VoiceOver. In fact, using numbers I was able to find a few years ago, I calculated that only one in one thousand people use VoiceOver becouse their

iTunes bugging the hell out of me

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hi there folks, I have a nice collection of music built up in my Apple music library. I am looking for a way to download all of that to my Mac without having to do it one Artist at a time. If anyone can help with this, I would be really grateful. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my M

Re: iTunes bugging the hell out of me

2016-10-29 Thread aliFaisal
I’ve been wondering how to do this as well. But the other thing I want to do is group all the music I have accumulated on my apple music into one playlist. Is there a way to set iTunes to do that? > On Oct 29, 2016, at 5:34 AM, Brandt Steenkamp > wrote: > > Hi there folks, > > I have a nice c

Adding favorites

2016-10-29 Thread aliFaisal
so I have bookmarks that I would like to move to my favourites. I forget how to do this. Does it require drag and drop or is there an easier way to do this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the ru

Adjusting volume on my macbook air.

2016-10-29 Thread Stacey Robinson
Hi, I’m not running the latest update. I’m still on ElCap. Is there any way for me to set the volume of sounds separate from speech volume? Thanks, Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is i

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Randy Stegall
I wouldn’t be at all surprised that the touchpad will take the place of the keyboard and there will be a software keyboard such as that on iOS devices. Thus the iOSification will be complete. Randy > On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:06 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Chris, > > The power button on the new

slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
I'm using a late 2009 mac mini, and was checking for software updates, and it mentioned the free sierra upgrade, so I clicked it and then got the message that it could not be installed on this computer, looks like you must have at least a 2010 mac mini, but in that case, why mention it in the fi

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Simon, In all the flurry of stuff I read yesterday, I recall seeing some reference to the fact that the Touch Bar will somehow, I don't remember how, be supported with Boot Camp. What I find really interesting is virtual machines. How on earth is that going to work? Mary Sent from my iPhone

Re: Using another account on mac

2016-10-29 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Thanks finally done. The things that makes me didn't check the next table is that it is dimbed, but now it's working thanks again On 10/29/16, Brandt Steenkamp wrote: > Actually, the things you can use Gmail for can be found in a second table. > That includes mail, contacts, calender, etc. > > W

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Ray Foret jr
Does the same thing to me. I’m using a mid 2009 15 inch Mac book pro and I get exactly the same thing. Quite aggravating. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Gui

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread E.T.
Beats being kept in the dark never knowing why one cannot upgrade their OS. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Without H2O there is no life! ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/29/2016 6:58 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I'm using a late 2009 mac mini, and was checking for software updates, and it mentioned th

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Okay, that is pushing things a bit far. Firstly, sited people still need and want physical keyboards. Why do you reckon they sell Bluetooth keyboards for the iPad? Thus, removing the keyboard from a laptop would be a monumentally stupid thing to do. One thing we all can agree on, the apple engi

Re: Spodify subscription question

2016-10-29 Thread Matthew Dierckens
Yes it will. God bless. Matt Dierckens, Certified assistive technology specialist Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainor Canadian phone: 519-962-9140 US phone: 573-401-1018 > On Oct 27, 2016, at 21:22, Sarai Bucciarelli > wrote: > > > Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Blee Blat
As far as I know, iOS doesn't even offer an update if the device doesn't support it. I'd report this as a bug to Apple. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel t

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
The same thing happened with a Mid 2009 MacBook Pro of a friend of mine. That particular Mac is stock standard, 2 GB RAM, etc. Another 2009 MacBook pro runs Sierra just fine, though it is not standard any more. 8 GB RAM, most it can handle, and 512 GB SSD. Obviously I do not know your MacMini,

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hi Blee, The issue here is not that the OS cannot install on the particular model of Mac, the issue here is that particular Mac does not have the minimum Ram, etc. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my Macbook Pro Contact: Phone: Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 For technical support with

Free e-book reader app and books

2016-10-29 Thread -
For smartphones and desktops: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/technology/personaltech/borrow-e-books-no-kindle-required.html?ref=technology XB -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of t

Re: Adjusting volume on my macbook air.

2016-10-29 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, simply press vo-cmd-left or right until you get to "volume", then use up/down. This will change the volume of speech, but not affect system or VO sounds at all. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 09:32, Stacey Robinson wrote: > > Hi, I’m not running the latest update. I’m still on ElCap. > Is there any

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread E.T.
For those who do not know and want to find out, this link provides the system requirements for macOS Sierra. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Without H2O there is no life! ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/29/2016 8:52 AM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote: Hi

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Randy Stegall
Apple engineers are definitely not stupid. Question, why are apple computers steadily moving toward an iOS look and feel? The Touch bar is possibly evidence for my argument. We no longer have to press function keys. Randy Sent from my iPhone 6 S Plus > On Oct 29, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Brandt Stee

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
In my case, the operating system will not install on this mac, for mac minis, it must be 2010 or newer, this computer actually has 4 GB of memory, it's like telling you, your mac can do more with this free upgrade, then you say, sure, I'm interested, go ahead and give me the upgrade you mention,

Question re searching in IOS

2016-10-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, A few minutes ago I did a search on my iPhone to try and figure out who a phone number belonged to. I entered the number in the text field, but Spotlight didn't find the contact. When I eventually figured out who the number belonged to, I looked in Contacts and sure enough, the phone

Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a program. Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread christopher hallsworth
You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm. > On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Hey all, > > Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write out > the steps they

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Fischler
Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps you did, appreciate it. Thanks, > On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth > wrote: > > You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, > shouldn't make a difference though, but it worke

voiceover keeps crashing

2016-10-29 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi guys, I have a MBP2010 running Yosmidi. For some reason, voiceover keeps stopping. It appears the vo sounds will work, but no speech. command function five key will not work. I have to force a shutdown. Any ideas? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionari

Re: Unable to expand and collapse thread with the left and right arrow keys

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Fischler
To fix this issue without rebooting turn VO off with Command F5 now press the left and right arrows individually a few times I do it four or five times now turn VO back on and it works again. No need to reboot your computer to get working again. Good luck > On Oct 27, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Gerry Coo

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread christopher hallsworth
1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities. 2. Click add. 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then click set next to that, such as voices. 4. Set the appropriate options, then cl

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Fischler
Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my mail to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as Alex is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is a

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread christopher hallsworth
You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time for Christmas and try to get back to you. > On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Fischler
Yes it is. Now I got activities working a little and this is so weird. If I go from a program running a activity to another running an activity everything works fine, but if I go from a program like mail running an activity to safari running the default and back to mail running the activity Alex

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread Kevin Chao
It's disappointing that one has to go to the 15" to get 16GB RAM and quad-core CPU, where the 13" Pro I've now has 16GB RAM, and current 13" ChromeBooks and Windows laptops have quad-core CPU. The new OLED Touch Panel Pro seems to have a 50% mark-up over previous Pros or other comparable laptops.

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, I see that now. That's really cool. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:06 AM S

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread Devin Prater
I hate how expensive it all is. I have a $500 Windows 10 laptop, quadcore CPU, 8 gigs ram, 1 TB spinning hard drive, and it works great. On 10/29/2016 2:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: It's disappointing that one has to go to the 15" to get 16GB RAM and quad-core CPU, where the 13" Pro I've now has 1

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Actually, from what I'm told, if you press the FN key for a few seconds, that bar is apparently then supposed to turn into the 12 function keys. I might be incorrect on this, so don't quote me, but that's how I'm at least currently understanding it. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016.

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Can you elaborate on that a bit? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: "Macvisionaries" Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:06 AM Subject: The escape key now a

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread jeff `greene
Hi Kevin, Very few 13-inch windows laptops have a quad-core processor. The only ones I know of are made by Aerus and they are gaming machines and cost like $2499. You can get 16gb in the new 13-inch macbook pro, I just looked on Apple's website. Jeff On 10/29/16, Devin Prater wrote: > I hate how

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Simon, I'd imagine that yes, they would. I think the more important question will be how screen readers like NVDA, and JFW will handle the use of the touch bar. Somehow, the devs will have to find a way to allow for access without activating things just by tapping certain areas of the bar. App

Re: iTunes bugging the hell out of me

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Re the playlist, Probably your best bet is going to be to show the sidebar, then make sure you're showing your music library. Set your view in the sidebar to songs, not to albums. Then, create a new playlist, unless you already have one to use. You'll probably have to then go back to your libr

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread Kevin Chao
My Google Pixel 2 has quad-core I7. I do see that the Touch Bar 13" Pro has 16GB, but it doesn't show-up until customizing--it should be the default. The upgrade should be 32GB RAM, but I don't even see a way of customizing RAM for 15" Pro. On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM jeff `greene wrote: >

Re: Adjusting volume on my macbook air.

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Absolutely! You'd actually want to kind of do this a bit backwards though from how you described. You're not exactly going to change the audio system volume. What you'd have to do is change the volume of Voiceover. Note that Voiceover's independent volume only will go as loud as the system vol

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
E! Dear God I hope not! LOL! Though I dont' mind the touch bar aproach, I think the whole keyboard being that way would be a little much. I still want a physical keyboard on a laptop, as typing with an on screen keyboard can be a bit tedious. I'm decently fast at it on the phone/iPad, but

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Brant, I actually really like the idea of the Surface tablets. Honestly, the last I tried, touch support with JFW and with NVDA wasn't the greatest on my Surface 3, but keep in mind, that's an older model. I don't think the Surfaces were really meant for full fledged laptop use. I mean, OK, I.

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Guys, it's not offerring this as an update. I have enough vision to be able to tell you what's really happenning. When you load the app store, you're seeing Sierra showing as it pops up on the main homepage of the store as a graphical banner that runs along the top of the html content area. It

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
My guess is that they're trying to slipstreamline everything into one platform. This way things are completely universal. Actually, to tell you the truth, Having full on OSX on an iPhone/iPad would be a very very much welcome thing, in my opinion. I think that could be kind a cool. --- Christoph

Re: Question re searching in IOS

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I wonder. Was it searching your iCloud contacts though, or was it searching only your contacts locally on your phone. Normally, yes, the two should be identically the same, but I have! seen before though rarely, them get a bit out of sync. I dono. It's just a thought. --- Christopher Gilland JA

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the appli

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Very odd, and quite unlike apple. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my Macbook Pro Contact: Phone: Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp

Re: Adjusting volume on my macbook air.

2016-10-29 Thread Stacey Robinson
Alex, Thanks, worked great. Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net > On Oct 29, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Yes, simply press vo-cmd-left or right until you get to "volume", then use > up/down. This will cha

2 factor verification for Apple ID sign in

2016-10-29 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello, I have an iPhone 5S running the latest IOS 10 and an iMac running the latest El Capitan. I am trying to set up 2 factor verification for my Apple ID via text messages. when I look at the devices table in the iCloud system preferences on my iMac I see that I am signed in on my iMac, my

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Maybe macOS looks and feels more like iOS now than it did in the past, but it is still distinctly macOS. The touch bar supporting your argument? Not likely. That is like saying having a glass track pad supports the argument that the laptop is going to be replaced by a tablet, an absurd thought.

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello Chris. I wrote that in the early hours of the morning at the time. What I was trying to say was if you are in a message or an open document, if there is something that you don't like, pressing the escape key does nothing. Let's say if you use windows, and you wanted to get out an e-mail

Re: Onscreen keyboard on the Iphone.

2016-10-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Not sure whats going on. Maybe dictation has made me lacy *smile*. /A > On 28 Oct 2016, at 22:01, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Anders, > > I haven't experienced this, but is it possible that your input method has > changed accidentally? Might be worth checking, I can't imagine what else > w

Re: Onscreen keyboard on the Iphone.

2016-10-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi Simon! Well maybe i am to hard on myself. But sometimes i wish i could type faster. But there’s a lag in the nuance voice. I don’t know why but the english siri voice is still faster and reacts much faster. /A > On 29 Oct 2016, at 07:42, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Donna and Anders > > I mu

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You wrote: Function keys gone being a bad thing? Answer me this, when was the last time you used function keys besides for Voiceover and the terminal? OK, let's see: a.. App chooser list b.. Window chooser list c.. What's in the Voiceover cursor, and where's it located on the screen d.

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I beg to argue your comparison to Windows. LOL! If you are using Thunderbird, for example, in Windows, try openning or composing a message, then do like you said and hit escape. Let me know how it works for ya. LOL! Not meaning that to be at all snarky, but trust me. It won't work, unless you

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Chris, If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm afraid to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list. I know you may not like reading what is said but I think it is better for you to take these issues off list and take it up with the person priva

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have no experience of Thunder bird but plenty of experience with Microsoft outlook and jaws. I think Jaws makes the messages go away when escape is pressed. > On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:55, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > I beg to argue your comparison to Windows. LOL! > > If you are usin

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hi there, The surface book, is supposed to be a laptop. The problem with it, is when you hold it on your lap, [LAPTOP] if you are not very careful, it will fall backwards. The screen is too heavy for the device. Thus, a good laptop, the surface book does not make. That is why I believe Apple w

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Command W will do the same thing on the Mac. I almost never use the escape key. The closest I get to it, is command period. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my Macbook Pro Contact: Phone: Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 Email: brandt

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Point taken. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my message, but I'm so freaking exhausted right now, I'm not in the mood on nor off list to argue, so therefore, I'm just gonna surrender and let you win this one. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gi

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yes, you're correct on that note. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: "Macvisionaries" Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:08 PM Subject: Re: The escape key

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Fair enough said. I admittedly haven't seen the new Surface models, so, you very likely are probably correct on this matter. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Brandt Steenkamp

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I dont' think command+W will close out of a menu bar though, will it? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Brandt Steenkamp To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com Sent: Saturd

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hmm, did I hear correctly or not, the touch bar is dynamic. In other words, it will do everything that you just mentioned, with function keys, you have to remember, Like you did in the old days on a switchboard. The world is becoming a digital place. Computer manufacturers is only realizing thi

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wow! I'm so sorry to hear about your injery. I hope in the long run you're going to be OK! --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Brandt Steenkamp To: macvisionaries@googlegroup

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
No, but command period willful sure. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my Macbook Pro Contact: Phone: Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Nope, I am screwed. Have been since 2009. People would consider it a big deal, me? It is life. Things go wrong sometimes. Back on topic though; I remember in the old Dos days people use to have little cards above their function keys. I see the touch bar as an evolution of that setup. Now the ca

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Good point. I'd forgotten that works in menus. To be completely honest with ya, I don't use Command+Period very much, so it feels a bit awquard. I'd be willing to try getting used to it though, if it meant doing so; I have an open mind. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instr

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wow. That's so sad! Again, I am really sorry, and I very genuinely mean it! If I ever can do anything, please don't hesitate to write me privately. Anyway, like you said, back on topic we go... Smile. Enough said. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmar

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'll just say, Chris it's not about winning anything, it's about treating each other respectfully and a little professionalism. We're all on this list to get help, to learn and to swap ideas and a little light banter at times. If you have nothing good to say just move on to the next topic or m

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Point taken. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: "Macvisionaries" Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Activities I'll just say, Chris it

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-29 Thread Kevin Chao
One thing I'll miss from MagSafe 2 is the magnetic connect/disconnect. However, I'm ecited about USB-C, as I've 64-watt and other USB-c power adapters/cables everywhere. On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 11:00 PM Maria Chapman wrote: > Hmmm I run a usb hub and wireless headphones that run on usb. Will th

Siri and YouTube

2016-10-29 Thread ben J. Bloomgren
Hey all, Have you guys noticed lately, that Siri will not open the app for YouTube? I've tried it under iOS on my iPhone 6s as well as under tvOS 10 on my AppleTV fourth-generation. On the latter, it just won't do it. It will say something like, sorry, I don't know what you mean. Under iOS, it

Re: Siri and YouTube

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
I had never tried opening YouTube using Siri. I just tried it, and when I said "open YouTube" it open Safari and took me to YouTube homepage. I had to say "open the YouTube app", and then it did. Mary PS don't know about the ATV. I don't use YouTube there. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2016,

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Me too, I like the mag safe. I’ve kicked that cable several times and that quick disconnect has saved my bacon from pulling the whole laptop off the table. Put me down as a fan of magsafe. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > > One thing I'll miss from MagSafe 2 is the magnetic

Re: Activities

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Kawal, he probably picked that behavior up in prison so you’ll have to give him some slack. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > I'll just say, Chris it's not about winning anything, it's about treating > each other respectfully and a little professionalism. We're all on

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-29 Thread E.T.
That magnetic connector was what truly impressed me when I got my new Mac. Sad to see it go. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Without H2O there is no life! ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/29/2016 7:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Me too, I like the mag safe. I’ve kicked that cable several times and

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread John Panarese
Yes you can. I was checking this out myself as I am just about ready for an upgrade. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZ

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Hi there, so I think the idea that laptops will be replaced with tablets isn’t so wild to be fair. The number of tablets sold has been replacing laptop sales for a while now. I think most sited users really just want something that’s always on and looks a lot like their phones but easier to us

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Ah, it has the same problem as the blackberry Priv. With the keyboard slid out the phone tended to pull backwards do to poor weight distribution. Same deal on the surface? Doesn’t surprise me. +1 to your points Brandt. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Brandt Steenkamp > wrote: > > Hi there,

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
I know laptop sales aren't exactly knocking it out of the park, but aren't a tablet sales also rather down? Maybe these convertibles are the answer. I don't know. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2016, at 7:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Hi there, so I think the idea that laptops will

RE: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mary, Good thoughts, I could see the touch bar working with vm fusion but only because that is the app in the OS window, what runs in the actuall VM will be a different situation. Simon f From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Hell, I’ve paid a lot of money to get that way;) Hang in there buddy things like computers can really help folks with brain injuries. There’s a lot of research going on in that area because of our wounded vets as well. Won’t be long where they will be able to augment the broken segments. > O

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
I think iPad sales are down but I’m not sure about tablets over all, that’s a good question Mary. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I know laptop sales aren't exactly knocking it out of the park, but aren't a > tablet sales also rather down? Maybe these convertibles are the

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Simon, remember that Apple has opened up the API for the touch bar so it should be accessible to all manor of programs. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > Good thoughts, > I could see the touch bar working with vm fusion but only because that is the > app

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread John Panarese
From what I had read back in August, tablet sales were down overall, but nothing like laptop sales. Windows laptops had taken something like a 16 or 18 percent hit in first half 2016. I don’t recall the actual numbers, but it was nothing like the drop in laptop sales. Take Care John D. Pan

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Whats wrong with the surface book? I like that a hell of a lot more than the surface pro. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandt Steenkamp Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 4:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com Subject: Re: From A

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Kevin, the 13 inch comes in 8 or 16 models and the 15 inch has 16 GB it looks like, I did not see any upgrade for 32 which I mentioned seemed like weak sauce to me. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > > My Google Pixel 2 has quad-core I7. > I do see that the Touch Bar 13" Pro ha

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Sorry, spinning hard drives are totally out of the question for me any more. Far to slow to get anything useful done but that’s just me. The other problem is windows laptops run well windows.:) That’s the quickest way to turn that I7 in to a P4.:) Also remember you have to add JFW on top whi

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
John, I had read something similar. Intel has been taking it in the pants lately do to the falling PC sales over all. This is the motivation for Intel’s push in to mobile. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:20 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >From what I had read back in August, tablet sales were down

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
OK Scott, what am I missing here. You noted correctly that Apple has a very robust API. But doesn't that only apply to Mac programs? If you're running Linux or windows in a virtual machine, how is this API on the macside going to help you? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Sc

Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
There’s even a touch bar simulator for developers with out a real touch bar. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 1:25 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > There will be no change, > > It's only in the notebook line that the touch bar is currently appearing. > > Think about this, > > Sierra is out already > And th

Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
David, I always learn something new from your posts, thank you. Very interesting the numbers you provided. Less than 0.1%, wow! > On Oct 29, 2016, at 5:05 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Yep, blindness, which includes vision level of 20/200 (6/60) is less than > 0.5% of the total population.

Re: Update for VM Fusion available

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Hi Simon, Yes, Sierra 10.12.1 is specifically mentioned in the OS list. > On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:00 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hey Scott, > > Is this the fusion version that allows you to run mac OS VM's ? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailt

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