Fair enough said. I admittedly haven't seen the new Surface models, so, you
very likely are probably correct on this matter.
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From: Brandt Steenkamp
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over
and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126
Hi there,
The surface book, is supposed to be a laptop. The problem with it, is when
you hold it on your lap, [LAPTOP] if you are not very careful, it will fall
backwards. The screen is too heavy for the device. Thus, a good laptop, the
surface book does not make.
That is why I believe Apple will not go that route. I pray that I'm correct
on this.
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Brandt Steenkamp
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On 29 Oct 2016, at 10:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Brant,
I actually really like the idea of the Surface tablets. Honestly, the last
I tried, touch support with JFW and with NVDA wasn't the greatest on my Surface
3, but keep in mind, that's an older model.
I don't think the Surfaces were really meant for full fledged laptop use. I
mean, OK, I... suppose... you could do it, but, why? They're more meant as a
mobile tablet, and, look at the 4 Pro's and what not. They actually do! come
with a full keyboard if you twist the screen around the oppisit way. Now that,
I could! see Apple doing. Making a macbook with a keyboard that you could twist
the display around and collapse into a tablet. Now that! would be freaking
awesome! But yeah, I echo everything else you said. Otherwise, that would be
monumentally dumb! I don't know I'd go so far as stupid, that's kind a strong,
but I'd definitely! agree it wouldn't be the smartest idea.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Brandt Steenkamp
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice
over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126
Okay, that is pushing things a bit far.
Firstly, sited people still need and want physical keyboards. Why do you
reckon they sell Bluetooth keyboards for the iPad? Thus, removing the keyboard
from a laptop would be a monumentally stupid thing to do. One thing we all can
agree on, the apple engineering team definitely cannot be classified as stupid.
Using a touchscreen for their laptop displays, would also not be the
greatest idea in the world. Look at the Microsoft surface book, what a dumbass
idea. Apple will never go that route. A laptop that cannot be safely used when
on your lap? Seriously?
If I am wrong, I would be very surprised.
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
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On 29 Oct 2016, at 3:48 PM, Randy Stegall <kc4...@me.com> wrote:
I wouldn’t be at all surprised that the touchpad will take the place of
the keyboard and there will be a software keyboard such as that on iOS devices.
Thus the iOSification will be complete.
Randy
On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>
wrote:
Chris,
The power button on the new touch bar is also a touch sensor such as
on the iPhone now,
So it will read your finger print as well as turn your machine on.
Plus the new machines have a larger touch pad, will be interesting to
see how that goes for us.
From:
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 5:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd:
Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126
What do you mean by the touch ID. Sorry, I have Scott's messages
blocked, so I am only seeing 3/4 rather than all of this thread, so forgive me.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret jr
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd:
Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126
I believe it was I who guessed at the touch ID tripple press.
>From the look of their answer to you, Scot, seems like what they actually went
for was pressing the command key plus the tripple press of touch ID. IN other
words, you press and hold down the command key and while doing so, you tripple
press the touch ID.
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
And who had the touch ID triple press, you’re the winner. See
the comments from Apple accessibility sent to me just 2 minutes ago.
This sounds better and better and I have to compliment Apple in
such a quick turn around on this question.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up:
651323126
Date: October 28, 2016 at 3:42:30 PM EDT
To: scott.grana...@gmail.com
Hello,
Thank you for your email. Touch Bar works with VoiceOver, Zoom
and Switch Control. For VoiceOver users, Touch Bar uses VoiceOver gestures
users already know and love from iOS to navigate and control the information on
display in the Touch Bar. To turn VoiceOver on or off, hold the Command key and
triple-press the Touch ID button.
Apple Accessibility
For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
https://support.apple.com/accessibility
On October 28, 2016 at 03:55:04 AM GMT,
scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, now that Apple is using the light bar how does a blind
user activate voice over independently with out an F5 key. Is there a
replacement for command F5?
Thanks
Scott
P.S. Thank you all for your hard work. I use Macs every day
in my professional life and your accessibility tools make that possible. As a
network engineer you help this blind professional every day and I do thank you.
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