Wow. That's so sad! Again, I am really sorry, and I very genuinely mean it! If 
I ever can do anything, please don't hesitate to write me privately.

Anyway, like you said, back on topic we go... Smile. Enough said.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brandt Steenkamp 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:39 PM
  Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over 
and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126


  Nope, I am screwed. Have been since 2009. People would consider it a big 
deal, me? It is life. Things go wrong sometimes.


  Back on topic though; I remember in the old Dos days people use to have 
little cards above their function keys. I see the touch bar as an evolution of 
that setup. Now the cards are dynamic, you don't have to make a new set for 
each program, and you don't have to bother with pressing keys either. Just hit 
the card.


  Warm regards,


  Brandt Steenkamp


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    On 29 Oct 2016, at 11:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Wow! I'm so sorry to hear about your injery. I hope in the long run you're 
going to be OK!
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Brandt Steenkamp
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com
      Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:27 PM
      Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice 
over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126


      Hmm, did I hear correctly or not, the touch bar is dynamic.   


      In other words, it will do everything that you just mentioned, with 
function keys, you have to remember, Like you did in the old days on a 
switchboard. The world is becoming a digital place. Computer manufacturers is 
only realizing this now. 


      Hell, I don't remember what all the function keys do, If you can good on 
you. Having had brain injuries, does probably not help very much. In fact, this 
is very good for somebody like myself who've had injuries to the brain 
effecting memory.  some days I can barely remember my own name, let alone what 
the hell any of the function keys do.


      Warm regards,


      Brandt Steenkamp


      Sent from my Macbook Pro


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        On 29 Oct 2016, at 10:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


        You wrote:

        Function keys gone being a bad thing? Answer me this, when was the last 
time you used function keys besides for Voiceover and the terminal? 

        OK, let's see:

          a.. App chooser list
          b.. Window chooser list
          c.. What's in the Voiceover cursor, and where's it located on the 
screen
          d.. What's at the mouse pointer
          e.. Routing the mouse pointer
          f.. Using VO+F6 to see what items are selected
          g.. Using VO+F8 to open the Voiceover Utility
          h.. Using F12 in ProTools to record
          i.. Using all the macros assigned with Key Maestro to be used with 
FloTools as an extension to ProTools
          j.. Certain vews and settings within Pages, as well as Numbers
          k.. CTRL+F2 for the menu bar for non-Voiceover users
          l.. CTRL+F3 for the Dock for non-Voiceover users
          m.. Command+VO+F8 for the quickstart tutorial to Voiceover
          n.. Certain functions/settings within Main Stage, as well as within 
Logic Pro X
          o.. Certain setting parameters within certain  AAX plugins for 
ProTools
          p.. Certain parameters witnin different audio units for Logic/Main 
Stage

        As you can see, there are quite a few reasons for the funtion keys to 
stay in some form or another.

        Chris.


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