Hi all,
I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how stable the
current release is?
If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this feel free to
reach out.
Thanks in advance,
Sadam Ahmed
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Hi yes it does, with an Apple Music subscription you can access your
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On 06/08/2015 07:44, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
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From: Kawal Gucukoglu
Date: 6 August 2015 7:42:11 am BST
To: "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com"
Subject:
VO-m-m or control-f8.
On 06/08/2015 06:33, Pamela Francis wrote:
Folks, forgive my ignorance. I am drawing a blank on the keystroke to get me
into menu extras.
Thanks much
Pam Francis
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Hi!
I don’t know if someone has a sollution but i was running clean my mac helper
but there seems to be no windows opened.
I can’t drag the voiceover pointer there either.
Not even the mouse pointer.
I have tried the windows choocer and also the programs choocer with no luck.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta findings here.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, sadam
Ray,
I'm not asking for specifics.
Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my Mac.
The question was quite broad.
Don't think it breaks NDA.
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> On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
> Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta fi
Hi I have noticed this too, I am using iCloud Mail so am wondering if
their junk filtr is flagging certain messages as viruses yet they are
coming to my inbox? I will do a full scan of my PC to make sure I am not
really infected though.
On 05/08/2015 22:36, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Hey Chris. Th
I certainly appreciate that folks. I feel like an idiot. For whatever reason,
I drew a complete blank. No, not having a stroke. Just a senior moment. :-)
Pam Francis
On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Chris wrote:
VO-m-m or control-f8.
> On 06/08/2015 06:33, Pamela Francis wrote:
> Folks, forgive m
With respect, I disagree. You did ask for something to specific to discuss
with you either privately or otherwise. To ask how stable a beta OS is
something that touches on a degree of specifity which is not something I for
one am willing to go in to.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Pam,
there are a few ways this can be done.
Vo+M, followed by a second vo+M will do it. If you'd like to get their more
directly though, then just simply press ctrl+F8.
Here are two more you may find useful... Ctrl+F2 is the same as pressing
vo+M one time to get to the menu bar.
And ctrl
Actually, I was wonderring identically the same thing, only if you didn't! have
match, what would happen, if anything? would I have to then rip the CD on each
one of my macs? Not that this is an issue at all, if so, but just am curious.
Chris.
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From: Kawal Guc
Chris,
I do have Apple Music, obviously, but not Match. So, do you know how that
would then work?
Chris.
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From: "Chris"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: I Tunes Match.
Hi yes it does, with an Apple Music subscription you can acce
I just want to clarify something Chris said here which has confused a lot of
my students. When we say Vo+M M, we don't mean hold the voiceover keys
down: ctrl+option, while hitting the letter M, release all 3 keys, then hit
the letter m all by itself. That won't do it.
This is why I never s
Ray, I highly doubt the others care. I've tried beating this in their head for
months now. Frankly, I'm through with trying. LOL!
I agree totally with you though.
Chris.
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From: Ray Foret Jr
To: Mac Visionaries List
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:23 A
OK, yes, it's stable.
There. I won't say more though.
Chris.
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From: sadam.li...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
Ray,
I'm not asking for specifics.
Only gauging th
Don't feel stupid! It's quite OK. It happens to the best of us!
I'm glad that we all could assist.
Chris.
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From: "Pamela Francis"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Menu extras keystroke
I certainly appreciate that folks. I feel like an
I'm willing to say that yes, it's stable enough to run, but really, that's all
I can say. I agree with Ray. That's kind of a grey area.
I can see both sides.
Chris.
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From: Ray Foret Jr
To: Mac Visionaries List
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:30 AM
Su
So, where in my message am I going into specifics?
Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of issues. That
would suffice.
With Best regards,
Sadam Ahmed
Diploma of International Business candidate
RMIT University
Blog:
Http://www.SadamAhmed.com
Sent usin
I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not like he's
asking for specifics. He just wanted a general yes, or no.
I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this is kind
of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else may not really
In the first place, asking if beta software is stable is an
oxymoron. If stability is a concern, I would wait for the final release.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 8/6/2015 6:21 AM, Sadam Ahmed
Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t questions be
asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then I could understand.
But if Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would think this is
open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public beta
The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer "need" to
have a developer account. Thus making it a "public" beta. NDA still applies.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>
> Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t
Hi Sadam
Personally, I would recommend making a full iTunes back of your phone and then
you have the option to restore if you find the beta to be too unstable for your
general use. Or, if you have more than one iDevice, I’d use the secondary
device for the betas.
HTH
Debbie
From: macvi
Yup, sure does.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Joe Quinn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer "need" to
have a developer account. Thus m
Hi,
There is DeepFreeze for the Mac that will do what you're asking. Not sure of
it's accessibility as we no longer use it in our facilities.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Aug 5, 2015, at 13:10, Chris wrote:
Hi all
Not sure if this is a good enough subject, does anybody k
Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something
available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>
> The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer "need" to
> have a
Ok, it is becoming more & more clear to me, that I need to switch over to
iCloud drive. If I do this, I need to update my Macbook Air Mid 2011 to
Yosemity. I have been reluctant, because I thought I have read on here there
was some VoiceOver sluggishness.
Before, I take the very late plunge…
as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than
reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only
thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e
Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact
Hi Tracy,
No, Voiceover works perfectly fine in Yosemite. In fact, starting in 10.10.2,
they made improvements to responsiveness as opposed to earlier operating
systems.
You should be fine to upgrade.
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:
>
> Ok, it is becoming more & more clear
Well, it really doesn't matter to me. I really could care less what Apple does.
But the fact that they will allow iOS nine to be discussed and not OS X, that
actually reinforces my opinion. Just my two cents worth.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>
> as I'v
really, that I didn't know. That's bad then. :(
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>
> Well, it really doesn't matter to me. I really could care less what Apple
> does. But the fact that they will allow iOS nine to be discussed and not OS
> X, that actually
What are you talking about? They don’t allow anything that hasn’t been publicly
divulged to be discussed. *sighs* here we go, again.
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>
> really, that I didn't know. That's bad then. :(
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Les
Hi,
Has anyone spent time with the new 12" MacBook? If so how are you
finding the keyboard?
Playing with one in the Apple Store I found it really difficult to use
-- the keys are a good size but there is very little space between
them and I was finding it actually a little hard to always detect
Hi Gary,
I've seen the new 12 inch macbook, I've typed on it for a long period of time,
and I didn't like the experience too much. I too had trouble locating th
God bless.e keys, and found that I still had to stop and count keys as they
were too close together.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assist
That was my initial impression as well; the keys are nice and big, but you
can't feel the edges. Perhaps with some reference dots it'd be doable, but I'm
not sure. My first thought was something like, "I could love this keyboard if
only I could feel the keys better." I'm sure it looks visually w
Hi guys,
Ever since my computer's logic board was replaced last week, I notice that a
bunch of settings have been screwed with for some reason.
When I delete messages on my iPhone or iPad and then go over to the mac side,
the messages appear again so I have to delete them. Isn't there a setting I
Diddo.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Joe Quinn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather
than reply again, I'll just put my original
I've not seen anything stating one could be discussed but not the other.
I'm not sure where you're getting that impression.
Chris.
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From: Joe Quinn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
rea
Yeah...
I kind a wondered that same thing.
Chris.
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From: Daniel Miller
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
What are you talking about? They don’t allow anything that hasn’t been
publicly
I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public beta, so
that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of osx and the
like why make it a public beta if they want nda as well, public beta
means that public beta you should be able to discuss it with out havint
to worry ab
Chris are you some kind of loney person
They ask on this list not to answer with one liners, but I gess you think one
words are ok to fill up peoples in boxes
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursda
Ok, so you press and hold the VO keys down, then press m twice, keeping
the VO keys held down.
On 06/08/2015 14:07, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I just want to clarify something Chris said here which has confused a
lot of my students. When we say Vo+M M, we don't mean hold the
voiceover key
You would probably have to subscribe to Match as well then. I don't know
because I already have a subscription.
On 06/08/2015 14:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Chris,
I do have Apple Music, obviously, but not Match. So, do you know how
that would then work?
Chris.
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Look,
If you agree to a NDA in any form before getting a beta, whether or
not you understand it or agree with it, you are legally bound by the
NDA. So we can discuss what should happen until we're blue in the
face, but what should and what is are two t
I've worked under NDA agreements. Any Indiana ever doubt with I had to sign.
Are you saying the people participate in the Public Beta sign an agreement. If
they do, then I understand what you were talking about if they don't, then an
NDA doesn't apply.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 6, 2015, at
Who cares about a NDA? Especially if the internet's already talking
about it.
On 8/6/2015 8:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> Look, If you agree to a NDA in any form before getting a beta,
> whether or not you understand it or agree with it, you are legally
> bound by the NDA. So we can discus
Can't we stop this conversation please my deleate finger is getting sore for
non sense
Please
thanks
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Shaf
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.
Exactly.
If I was asking about features like VO etc I might be possibly breaking this so
called NDA.
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> On 6 Aug 2015, at 11:49 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not like
> he's asking for
Wasn't trying to step on your toes, Chris. I was only clarifying.
Chris.
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From: "Chris"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Menu extras keystroke
Ok, so you press and hold the VO keys down, then press m twice, keeping
the VO keys held down
You don't sign it with handwriting, but yes, you do check a box saying I
agree to the terms, and to be bound by them. It may be electronic, but, who
cares! You still have binded yourself into the agreement.
Chris.
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From: "Les Kriegler"
To:
Sent: Thursday, Augus
Hello Folks,
Please forgive me if this was recently discussed, but I can’t find the emails
in the subject line in my inbox on the computer. I just deleted some files that
were on an external disk of about 90 GB. When I go to the disk utility, it
still states that the drive is minused the 90 GB
Hi,
Did you empty the trash after deleting the files? If not, then the space is
not freed up. If you deleted the items while using a different machine, you
must empty the trash or recycler on that machine first as you can't empty the
trash that was created from a different machine or user.
H
OK, but how many people that are now in the public program really understand
that. No wonder it's talked about so much on the Internet. Listen, Apple made
the bed on this one, and they can deal with the consequences. I'm not going to
make any further comments on this one.
Sent from my iPhone
>
Hi Tim,
Thanks for the missing link. I didn’t do that at first, but completed emptying
the trash and now I have recovered all of the missing GBs. Thanks again. I’ll
have to remember the last step when I need to recover lost space in the future.
Best,
Eileen
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Ti
Hi, going to mail settings preferences and under accounts to say account and
then hit mailbox activities cab. Under there that should be a checkbox that
says something about keep deleted messages on the server uncheck that and then
hit OK you should be all set. Hope this helps Jeffx
Sent from
Simple. Because not everyone has it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>
> Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something
> available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 6, 201
Thanks Jeff.
I wasn't sure where it was.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
On Aug 6, 2015, at 17:23, jeff `greene wrote:
Hi, going to mail settings preference
Hi,
I have all the necessary settings for the deleting option set and I find the
messages delete from Mac Mail. But still appear on the iPhone. If you do it the
other way, it seems to work. This is Gmail of course. Also sending Gmail
messages take for ever to be send. When I look at the sent fo
Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed. That's
Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really want to know, sign up for
their public beta program and find out. Y'all are really something else.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wi
I totally agree. Tell me, what part of "no discussion" do y'all not understand?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:2
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Did you have to check a "constantly barefooted" box on the NDA
agreement as well?
On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed.
> That's Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really wa
Careful George,
You’ll set him off again…for the umteenth time. I mean after all, when I
posted this msg this thread was up to a count of 38. Oh, and about a dozen of
those were from He whom shall not be mentioned.
Sort of ridiculous,
CJ
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:11 PM, george b wrote:
>
Hi all,
Alex, I don’t think the issue you were having is a beta thing. I’ve noticed it
as well and I’m not running any beta. It might, however, have something to do
with the VoiceOver setting to play tones instead of announcing links. When I’m
navigating through a Pages document using the down
I use the Calendar on Mac. I launch Calendar with the keyboard commander, press
command-n to create a new event, and then type in the event details in natural
language and press return. Fantastical is another option I’ve played with which
is even faster – it sits in the menu bar and can be trigg
That makes sense, thanks. Yes, I use tones, and that may well be throwing me
off. I understand, too, what Anne was saying; you don't have to *select* the
text, you just move to it and it is selected for you. AppleScript is certainly
an interesting idea I'll have to look into further--I never tho
Hi all,
Does anyone have helpful resources for learning how to use wordpress with vo? I
have administrative access to a wordpress website where I will need to update
the content. So if anyone could give helpful resources or tips that would be
great.
Thank you,
Laura
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