What are you talking about? They don’t allow anything that hasn’t been publicly divulged to be discussed. *sighs* here we go, again. > On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > really, that I didn't know. That's bad then. :( > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com > <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Well, it really doesn't matter to me. I really could care less what Apple >> does. But the fact that they will allow iOS nine to be discussed and not OS >> X, that actually reinforces my opinion. Just my two cents worth. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather >>> than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. >>> The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have >>> questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, >>> contact them about it. :( >>> it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in >>> spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if >>> something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I >>> think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance >>> cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they >>> shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. >>> >>> >>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make >>>> something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer "need" >>>>> to have a developer account. Thus making it a "public" beta. NDA still >>>>> applies. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t >>>>>> questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then >>>>>> I could understand. But if Apple is now going public with their betas, >>>>>> then I would think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing >>>>>> the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not >>>>>>> like he's asking for specifics. He just wanted a general yes, or no. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this >>>>>>> is kind of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else >>>>>>> may not really be as concerned about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what >>>>>>> it's worth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point of >>>>>>> being debilitating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Sadam Ahmed <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OS X beta. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, where in my message am I going into specifics? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of >>>>>>>> issues. That would suffice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diploma of International Business candidate >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RMIT University >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com <http://www.sadamahmed.com/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent using OS X Mail >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With respect, I disagree. You did ask for something to specific to >>>>>>>>> discuss with you either privately or otherwise. To ask how stable a >>>>>>>>> beta OS is something that touches on a degree of specifity which is >>>>>>>>> not something I for one am willing to go in to. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, >>>>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ray, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for specifics. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my Mac. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The question was quite broad. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't think it breaks NDA. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta findings >>>>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, >>>>>>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how >>>>>>>>>>>> stable the current release is? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this feel >>>>>>>>>>>> free to reach out. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> 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