-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Did you have to check a "constantly barefooted" box on the NDA
agreement as well?
On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Got news for y'all.  public beta or not, it cannot be discussed.
> That's Apple's policy.  Just deal with it.  IF you really want to
> know, sign up for their public beta program and find out.  Y'all
> are really something else.
> 
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind built-in
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Sunshine <sunsh...@abe.midco.net 
>> <mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with the person that  stated a public beta is a public
>> beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta
>> of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as
>> well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to
>> discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta
>> means no nda.
>> 
>> On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> Diddo.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Joe Quinn
>>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com> *To:* 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 
*Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: OS X beta.
>>> 
>>> as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact
>>> question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my
>>> original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say
>>> different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e
>>> Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact
>>> them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it
>>> is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still
>>> can't talk about it publically. now if something's released
>>> about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think
>>> that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for
>>> instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be
>>> in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but
>>> they did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler 
>>> <<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you 
>>>> make something available to everybody and then swear
>>>> everybody to secrecy.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn 
>>>> <<mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you
>>>>> no longer "need" to have a developer account.  Thus making
>>>>> it a "public" beta. NDA still applies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler 
>>>>> <<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Okay, a question here.  If this is a public beta, then
>>>>>> why can’t questions be asked?  If it’s as it was before
>>>>>> and it wasn’t public, then I could understand.  But if
>>>>>> Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would
>>>>>> think this is open for discussion.  Now, if Im confusing
>>>>>> the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the
>>>>>> question.  Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have to say in this particular case, I agree with
>>>>>>> Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics.  He
>>>>>>> just wanted a general yes, or no.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, 
>>>>>>> admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one
>>>>>>> may think is unstable, someone else may not really be
>>>>>>> as concerned about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to
>>>>>>> install, for what it's worth.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're
>>>>>>> to the point of being debilitating.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Sadam Ahmed
>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> *To:*
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
*Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: OS X beta.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So, where in my message am I going into specifics?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there
>>>>>>>> are a couple of issues. That would suffice.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With Best regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Diploma of International Business candidate
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> RMIT University
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Blog:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com
>>>>>>>> <http://www.sadamahmed.com/>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent using OS X Mail
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr 
>>>>>>>>> <<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> With respect, I disagree.  You did ask for
>>>>>>>>> something to specific to discuss with you either
>>>>>>>>> privately or otherwise. To ask how stable a beta OS
>>>>>>>>> is something that touches on a degree of specifity
>>>>>>>>> which is not something I for one am willing to go
>>>>>>>>> in to.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and
>>>>>>>>> Apple TV user!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full
>>>>>>>>> accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM,
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ray,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for specifics.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Only gauging the suitability of putting this on
>>>>>>>>>> my Mac.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The question was quite broad.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Don't think it breaks NDA.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr 
>>>>>>>>>> <<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Let me gentally remind you that we cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> discuss beta findings here.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+
>>>>>>>>>>> and Apple TV user!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full
>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install the current beta and
>>>>>>>>>>>> am wondering how stable the current release
>>>>>>>>>>>> is?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you would like to make contact off the
>>>>>>>>>>>> list regarding this feel free to reach out.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are
>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups
>>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from
>>>>>>>>>>>> this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to
>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email
>>>>>>>>>>>> to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are
>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups
>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from
>>>>>>>>>>> this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
Visit this group
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are
>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"
>>>>>>>>>> group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
>>>>>>>>>> receiving emails from it, send an email to
>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
Visit this group
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. 
>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit
>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
- -- 
>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are
>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"
>>>>>>>>> group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
>>>>>>>>> receiving emails from it, send an email to
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
Visit this group
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
For more options,
>>>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
- -- 
>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed
>>>>>>>> to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To
>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
>>>>>>>> emails from it, send an email to
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
Visit this group
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
For more options,
>>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
- -- 
>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to
>>>>>>> the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To
>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
>>>>>>> from it, send an email to
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
Visit this group
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
For more options,
>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
- -- 
>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to
>>>>>> the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe
>>>>>> from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>>>>> an email to 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email to
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>>> For more options, visit
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
>>>>> the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe
>>>>> from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>>>> email to 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> 
To post to this group, send email to
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> 
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>>> For more options, visit
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
>>>> the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from
>>>> this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
>>>> to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post
>>>> to this group, send email to 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>>>
>>>> 
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the 
>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this
>>> group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post
>>> to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more
>>> options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this
>>> group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post
>>> to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more
>>> options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> 
>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this
>> group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to
>> this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options,
>> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this
> group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to
> this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options,
> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


- -- 
Take care,
Ty
twitter: @sorressean
web:http://tysdomain.com
pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVw+iFAAoJEAdP60+BYxej16MIAI4yJKTLImyabvYMcEREfnJ1
3A/rgDkHiEsiwIpLI8CT4cEcW6Rv4YWRC70hfGd+aCIChIZyyjemcLEbGtIKomh0
FETmMNo+MGhaqzR7JKeP/+vFQO+H1C8/qiMinpJv9R+yVa74ffY24R+j0dGkto95
yhWTCf4hqKM1mZyc9ooVbDm8DCrZjQU/X0gF6pVZf+lLCLonCKwxuayD2gJbWBp7
i8nYEJgET7kI3nlCZt/j4vSkHHQtFOGFwAtJU7fdVkFn2/sqfZPL+5LOnhSKtehH
mw21xrHkC1IgrElmfMHvqTgMrGFcZcbMVGSNPUqko/6MGSqQhDjNowoLYNpKHwk=
=xyPD
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to