On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Ricardo Walker wrote:
I think you meant Command V and command option V
I did. Sorry about that, not sure where my brain was.
Geoff.
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Hi Paul Henrichsen,
Amadeus costs a lot more than a free program, because it can do so many
beautiful things with sound. However, you don't need those amadeus features if
it is only batch conversion that you want, so the comparison is not entirely
fair. Neither max nor amadeus is just a batch co
hello
this has been discussed
sadly you do but, and i stress the word "might" i may have a theory
could you tell me which mac mini he will be getting?
the base or the upgraded mac mini
with the better video card?
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Hi Rachel,
There's a script called movefile.scpt to move files in snow leopard, and there
is also an accessible program called move addict. Depending on how long you
want to stick with snow leopard, you could consider these. The move file script
is free, but I've never used it. Move addict is so
Hi Rachel,
The finder can be used to connect to an ftp site. Just use the ftp:// prefix,
that is f t p colon slash slash, and then enter the ftp site url in the box,
that comes up with command k in finder. Command k is connect to server and you
can fill in the details there. Only problem I'm sti
Hi,
cyberduck looks pretty good for FTP access. I've not used it much and
haven't tried it under Lion, but it looked promising.
Only thing is that the progress indications aren't accessible.
http://cyberduck.ch/
Cheers,
Geoff.
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Hi Rachel,
I found Sharp keys thanks to a earlier post but I have not successfully
mapped a key in Windows 7. I put Insert in the first column and Grave in the
second then pressed the write to registry button but it didn't seem to take. I
did restart as recommended. Is it possible I
Hi, I'ts a bit of money out of pocket, but I've never regretted buying transmit
from Panic software.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will
it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To
read more and s
Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose some
of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis.
Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it.
RM
On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
> You need to go to system preferences and click on custom
Hello Rachel,
Lion has its little problems, but on the whole, it's working OK.
For multilingual users, Lion is great! It includes languages such as Chinese,
Russian and Greek that don't use the Latin alphabet.
Upgrading to Lion is much cheaper than buying additional language packs.
Cheers,
An
Eric, for sharp keys to work it requires 2 registrations per each key, you want
to map.
For example, if you want the right option key to be the insert, you would do
two entries.
The right option in windows would be the right windows key, therefore:
1. you make the right windows key go to insert a
Awesome, thanks. I'll see if they have a trial at least to check it out before
I get it!
Rachel
On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Hi, I'ts a bit of money out of pocket, but I've never regretted buying
> transmit from Panic software.
>
> Best,
>
> Erik Burggraaf
> This month i
This is one of the sale items today at Meritline.com. Can someone tell me
what they mean by audio passthrough? Thanks.
Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter with Audio Support for Apple MacBook Pro
and iMac,
Now with Audio Pass-Through on 2010 and Newer Models MacBook(195-129) And 6
Feet
High Speed HD
thanks Anne,
Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being
doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read
in portuguese and spanish at the moment.
If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that?
thanks again.
Rac
thanks, will try.
Rachel
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> cyberduck looks pretty good for FTP access. I've not used it much and
> haven't tried it under Lion, but it looked promising.
>
> Only thing is that the progress indications aren't accessible.
>
> http://cyberdu
Awesome, that is exactly what I want. I just want to grab stuff from my server
and not up load I can do that on the web through my server host. But grabbing
from there is quite difficult.
thanks! :)
Rachel
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
> The finder can be used to c
My experience with my new Mac Mini Server edition is it will work fine, but
it won't change any settings you change and the next time you restart it
will revert to previous settings.
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Hi Guys.
I just got my Mac on July 17, so I hope you guys will forgive elementary
questions and maybe some you talked about before. Although I am new to the Mac,
I am not new to computers, my first having been an Apple 2 E. I'm far enough
along that the good folks at Apple with whom I have been
Great. I'll look for it. Do you know if this problem gets solved in lion?
RM
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
> There's a script called movefile.scpt to move files in snow leopard, and
> there is also an accessible program called move addict. Depending on how long
> yo
Sounds like they're afraid eventually you will give up the PC for the Mac
and stop buying their updates.
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Hello Rachel,
For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without crashing
the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by
Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for
subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrad
Thanks Anne!
I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a
change when I installed visiovoice.
I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very soon.
But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac before I
bring it on min
No kidding! I think I am already in that boat. I did not bothered to up grade
to 12.
RM
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
> Sounds like they're afraid eventually you will give up the PC for the Mac
> and stop buying their updates.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvision
Hi all,
I have come to realize that I really miss the start menu in win7.
Ever since Vista, I stopped using keyboard shortcuts and desktop
icons and would just go to the start menu and type in what I
wanted. After a few letters, the program would come up and I
would just hit enter. Does the
Alex, use spot light. there are two ways to get to it.
1. command plus space bar
2. vo keys plus m 3 times
You can configure to search in the whole computer, or you can get more specific
about what you want and how you want to display the results. You configure that
on spot light preferences.
dep
Hi,
Just do a time machine backup before upgrading and you shouldn't have anything
to worry about.
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Rachel magario wrote:
> Thanks Anne!
> I am totally blind my self too, maybe this
Wow!
sure. The dock does this. Its pretty much like the start menu on windows.
You put the apps, files and folders you use the most in there and you can
access them quickly. You can get to the dock by pressing VO D.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.m
I did that. my question is how do I put every thing back later?
Thanks,
Rachel.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just do a time machine backup before upgrading and you shouldn't have
> anything to worry about.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Sky
Hi everyone,
I know this topic has been talked about, but I could not read the whole thread
online, so please bear with me
I am looking for a twitter client that will work well with the mac. I need to
be able to read and reply to DM, tweets and menssionds
If someone used quitter, my dream is to
Ive heard that Yourofukurou is good, and it is right in the app store. It is
free and should do what you are talking about.
On 8 Sep 2011, at 10:54, Rachel magario wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I know this topic has been talked about, but I could not read the whole
> thread online, so please bear w
It is a bit confusing now, but I think Spotlight is what I was looking for.
thanks.ÎÒ
On 8 Sep 2011, at 10:41, Rachel magario wrote:
> Alex, use spot light. there are two ways to get to it.
> 1. command plus space bar
> 2. vo keys plus m 3 times
> You can configure to search in the whole computer
Hi Alex,
I downloaded and installed yorufukuru, but I still don't understand its
interface. If any of you have more success than me with it, please share some
howto's and info on the list here. Very interested.
Paul.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Ive heard that Yourofukurou is g
Hi all,
Quick question: how do I quickly move to the top or bottom of a table, like in
Yourofukurou or Mail? Are there other navigation commands I should know, aside
from arrowing? Thanks!
Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Hi Rachel,
You asked: do you know if this problem gets solved in Lion? If you mean: the
problem of not being able to move files using the keyboard, then yes. It is now
solved. Here's how it works.
1. Go to the file or folder you want to copy or move.
2. Press command c, no matter if you are goin
I have another question. Is there a way to read braille foes on the Mac since I
can't find not option for computer braille in VoiceOver? I have one for braille
translation, but as far as I can see, it doesn't offer the reading of braille
files without translation. I have a lot of brf files that
Go to the voice over utility, under the Braille category. There is a checkbox
there to allow contracted or uncontructed Braille.
Nektarios.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> I have another question. Is there a way to read braille foes on the Mac since
> I can't find not optio
awesome, thanks a lot!
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
>
> You asked: do you know if this problem gets solved in Lion? If you mean: the
> problem of not being able to move files using the keyboard, then yes. It is
> now solved. Here's how it works.
> 1. Go to the f
Hi Alex!
Well I use a keyboard commander shortcut to stay in the same column like the
subject column in mail!
Just in case you might like to set one up and also if you do not already know
how to set a shortcut!
1. open vo utility with vo+f8 you will be on general scroll across to the allow
vo to
Hi, yes using Lion.
For the home library, I was sitting on my desktop, I hit vo-m, went over to
go, then vo-down to library. There is home library.
For the hd library, I was on my desktop again, I hit command-shift-C, opened
my hd, then down to library.
Lol, I'm still very new to all of th
Hi all,
Does anyone know of a script, where I could hit something like right option-w
and here my current tempature?
Thanks,
Traci
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Thanks, I'll look into that. I thought there would already be a key combo
defined for this prupose...
On 8 Sep 2011, at 13:16, Red.Falcon wrote:
> Hi Alex!
> Well I use a keyboard commander shortcut to stay in the same column like the
> subject column in mail!
> Just in case you might like to se
where is the system voice pup up?
I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
> You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the
> system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht
> you can download
Hi Alex!
Well there is!
In snow leopard you have two choices you can try the option key and up or down
arrow this will make a sound to say that's wrong [but it works ] if you hold
the key down for a sec!
The other option is to first press vo+shift+J then vo+shift+either up or down
arrow [ of cou
Hi Tracy,
Why not use the dashboard weather widget. Just press F12, and select the
weather widget from the dashboard menu. If you arrow to the right, you can
click on Info, and set the region to your city.
HTH,
Donna
On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Traci wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know
How do you select the widget? I can't get past the calculator; it just says
"entering application" when I try to arrow.
On 8 Sep 2011, at 13:38, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Tracy,
>
> Why not use the dashboard weather widget. Just press F12, and select the
> weather widget from the dashboard menu
Closest I could come up with was adding the weather widget in Safari,
showing the widgets bar and then setting a hotspot to the current
weather. As long as there is a Safari window open then the hotspot will
read the current weather. I can give more details if you want to try it.
CB
On 9/8/11
I'm using Lion, unfortunately.
On 8 Sep 2011, at 13:37, Red.Falcon wrote:
> Hi Alex!
> Well there is!
> In snow leopard you have two choices you can try the option key and up or
> down arrow this will make a sound to say that's wrong [but it works ] if you
> hold the key down for a sec!
> The ot
As previously mentioned, you can also use the rigged up VGA to NTSC/PAL
converter box to trick the Mac into thinking a real monitor is hooked
up. Check the mail archive for details or post back if you can't find
them and want to go that route.
CB
On 9/8/11 5:09 AM, james Walton wrote:
hello
Alex, when I'm in dash board, I hit VO-F2 twice, this brings up the list of
widgets. I then VO arrow down to select the one I want.
Chris thank you, I'll look into this further.
Traci
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Closest I could come up with was adding the weather widget
Hey there.
Any thoughts on this?
I had my Mini connected to a high res HDMI Dell monitor for awhile, and it
worked fine. I connected it to a KVM switch and now though the PC works
fine when I switch to the Mini all I get is a monitor setup prompt. And now
if I connect the Mini directly, I get the
The Mac usually detects displays on waking up or restarting so if you
didn't have the switch turned to the mac so it could detect the monitor
it might be stuck in a weird state. You might be able to correct things
by going to the Preferences->Displays and select the Detect Displays
button which
Hi Chris Blouche,
Thanks a lot for this piece of knowledge Chris. I tried it. I installed mac
fuse, and mac fusion. Mac fusion seems to have a lot of issues though. I'll
mention a few for the knowledge of the list and for the archives. In case
someone googled this message: mac fusion is not VmW
I know I'm probably going to get some heat for this, I know different strokes
for different folks but, is owning a monitor that much of an inconvenience?
I've seen this Mac mini monitor saga go on for years now. Literally. lol. I
just don't get it. monitors are so cheap, and you can just us
Hi Anouk, James, Bill, Chris, Ricardo, and Others,
To shortcut the Mac Mini without a monitor thread, and to save Chris from
having to reproduce his earlier forum post from the archives, may I suggest
that those of you interested in running one of the new model Minis without a
monitor check Joh
In Mail and Numbers, I use VO+shift+function key+left arrow to get to the top.
Substitue the right arrow to get to the last cell in a table. I have a laptop
keyboard, but if you have a desktop keyboard, you could substitute function
key+left arrow with the home key.
Kristyn
On Sep 8, 2011, at
On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:41, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
Yes, that did it! vo-shift-home or end is exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks!
> In Mail and Numbers, I use VO+shift+function key+left arrow to get to the
> top. Substitue the right arrow to get to the last cell in a table. I have a
> l
Donna,
*smile,* I like the weather widget, and what I'd really like is a script that
will read out the current temp with 1 keystroke. Somehow, I could connect a
keyboard commander, such as right option-W to read me the current temp from the
weather widget.
Traci
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Hello all, I'm wondering how do you save attachments you get in the mail client
for Lion in an easy manner? I thought there was something in a toolbar in Snow
Leopard that let me do that sort of thing. But I just don't see anything
anymore. If anyone could please answer this one for me, I'd appr
Hi all,
I know this has been covered before, but commands I thought were
supposed to work do not. How do I move by character, word,
sentence, line, and paragraph? Currently, I have to hope to not
make a mistake while writing on my mac because I know I can't go
back and fix it, and emails with
I'm using this document
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.7/English.lproj/index.html
and Chapter 4
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.7/English.lproj/_1128.html
is all about working with text.
What I did was use a braille labeler to make labels of the commands, then I
stu
Move left one character: left arrow,
move right one character: right arrow,
Move left one word: option left arrow,
Move right one word: option right arrow,
Move to the beginning of the line: control left arrow,
Move to the end of the line: control right arrow,
Note that sometimes this is flakey but
Those are the basic Mac commands, but there are also the VoiceOver commands,
which I find to often be more intuitive, such as
VO-l read line
VO-S read sentence
VO-w read word
VO-P read paragraph
etc.
Kes
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Hi
I was just wondering if you schedule a backup is there a way to tell
the progress of the backup?
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Hi Rachel, Kliph, and others,
I would never have figured out how to do Sharp Keys without these tips.
I'm sure once I follow the directions and do the reverse in each column it
will work.
If I get stuck though I'm taking Kliph up on the offer of a Skype contact!
Below are the amazin
Hello Alex,
If you want the VO commands to work in a text document, you have to interact
with the text area, otherwise, you can only use the native Mac commands.
You can find all the VO commands by pressing VO-h-h (hold down the VO keys and
press the letter h twice). The commands are organised
But do those allow you to go there and edit that line or sentence or paragraph?
Do they let you select a sentence and copy it? Unfortunately not, thus while
it may be handy to have vo read the current sentence, that's not really what
was asked for.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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Hi all,
How do I go about changing the way VO reads inside my message list in mail?
I'd like to hear the subject before hearing sender.
Thank you,
Traci
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Hello Rachel,
I find it easier to download the voices from VoiceOver Utility, category
Speech. Click the Default Voice menu button and go down to Customise. Press
Return and navigate right to the search box where you can type in the language
you want such as Spanish, and the appropriate voices
Hello Erik,
Although the VO commands don't allow you to edit, they do offer more navigation
options, and they don't prevent you from using the shift key with the arrow
keys, so you get the best of both worlds.
Cheers,
Anne
On 8 Sep 2011, at 23:28, erik burggraaf wrote:
> But do those allow
So according to the Google code page
http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
MacFuse hasn't been updated since December 2008. Wow, that's old. I
found a site that claims to have a forked version called 2.1.9 and has
an unofficial release for download which supposedly works with 64bit
OSX. I downloa
Hi Alex,
once you are in dashboard go to window chooser and the list of widgets
are there. Use your arrow keys to move up and down and select the widget you
want.
eric Caron
On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> How do you select the widget? I can't get past the calculator
Hi Alex.
I know I'm new, but it sounds like you are having the same problem I had. In my
case, I had to get backup files, after first having erased the original file. I
renamed the backup file. Then I shut down the computer and closed all the
windows. I reported to accessibil...@apple.com and th
Hello all,
As student, I have used pear note for the mac while taking notes.
This app can record while you write in the editor of pear note and, when you
jump to a written word in the text, the recorded track is jumping to the moment
that you where typing that text.
So, for me very usefull.
No,
Actually, I have found a use for these. They are clunky and I don't like them
as much as the mac Os ones. But if I interact with something I'm typing they
will let me navigate on my braille display. I've set up my braille connect 32
notetaker style, with the joystick mapped to the up down lef
thanks a lot!
Now in another note related to this tic, would you know how to chang the key
which is assigned as the jaws key in the jaws it self?
I mean I have trouble because in laptop mode sometimes the capslock key works
as the jaws key and some functions only work with the capslock instead of
great thanks, I did it! works like a charm. Thank you all who helped on this!
You definitely saved my day, and month and year... :)
Cheers,
Rachel
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Rachel,
>
> I find it easier to download the voices from VoiceOver Utility, category
> Spe
AUstin,
Not sure if I should thank you or curse you. :) Now I did download the trial
and just have not found enough time to try it out. Now I wil and probably will
end up purchasing it. I write policy for a living and I find the whole process
really painful. The problem is trying to put the bit
Austin, I wonder how accessible this app is for the iPad and if the dev would
work on that as well. Might have to contact that person and ask the question.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> Hey everyone. Scrivener rocks! I just posted a review. Enjoy.
>
> http://behindthecurt
All, I have to point out that this was never a problem in SNow Leopard. As far
as I know the move function is new and was introduced with Lion. So, that would
mean then there was no problem, but instead an enhancement.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
>
> You asked:
Duh, What is this? I discovered I can add a function to my braille display
called toggle selection. I added this and now when I am in text edit, I can
start selecting on my braille display. Then I can use the nifty navigation
commands I just set up to select words, sentences and so on. Then
hi Alex, thanks, it is working great for me!
Paul, I am getting the hang of it. There are a couple of text boxes one changes
according to what you are doing and the what is search. You also have a drop
check box for attaching a picture tags and other things to your tweet, reply or
whatever else
All:
I can no longer post to a page on m.facebook.com I cannot post to their wall.
It works on Windows. Using SN with Safari 5.1.
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Hello Erik.
Ok, this brings up another question. A while back, me and a lady with AppleCare
drove ourselves crazy trying to get assign VoiceOver commands to keys on my
Focus 40. We never did get it to work no matter what we did. She got the answer
from someone that this was not going to work and
I suspect it is software. My bn apex does the same thing - it refuses
to assign commands.
On 9/8/11, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> Hello Erik.
> Ok, this brings up another question. A while back, me and a lady with
> AppleCare drove ourselves crazy trying to get assign VoiceOver commands to
> keys on my
Hum, OK, for my tests I'm using a braille connect 32. As far as the delete
goes, it's not possible in SL to perform a delete or a backspace or a carriage
return from any braille display. I was able to assign all the navigation keys
for paragraphs, words, sentences and such. There's also an
The apex problems were confirmed by an hw rep. Basically, I would
select or add a command, then hit cmd-b and hear the sound that
indicates it is time to press the braille keys. When I did, nothing
happened; no assignments, no nothing.
On 9/8/11, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Hum, OK, for my tests I'
That would irritate me so much. Too bad it couldn't just go away with either a
minor OS update or a firmware update. I'm interested to hear whether this is
the same on the focus.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will
it be suppo
Well, key assignment in Lion for the Focus 40 is now broken, darn it. This is
the one regret I have on upgrading to the current OS X. I used to be able to
assign keys, even backspace and delete, and now they are neither listed in the
default assignments, nor are they or anything else able to be
Hi Guys.
I promise this is my last post of the day. However, I just tried a suggestion
that was given to me earlier today on this list. Unfortunately, it didn't work.
Luckily, this is not something I meed right now, but I will need it if I ever
have to send my PacMate in for repair.
I tried t
Hi,
just go to the file menu and press enter on save as.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:
> Hello all, I'm wondering how do you save attachments you get in the mail
> client for Lion in a
Hi Paul and others,
I finally got around to playing with Growl. I followed this thread and
checked out the applications table in ?Growl. For me right now all there is in
the table is Skype and Dropbox. I saw others mention mail and even getting
sounds for power being unplugged or for
Hi Paul and others,
I finally got around to playing with Growl. I followed this thread and
checked out the applications table in ?Growl. For me right now all there is in
the table is Skype and Dropbox. I saw others mention mail and even getting
sounds for power being unplugged or for
Hi All
I have a new Mac Book Air 11Inch. I have my gmail account working well. But
can't seem to get my windows live account working. I went into Mail,Calendars
and Contacts in system preferences and added the account as an exchange
account however it doesn't seem to appear in mail or c
what your looking for is hardware growler
it is located in the dmg when you get growl from the growl website
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please explain to me how you got it to work as exchange!
when i tried it it did not work for me. i had to do it as pop
on my iPhone it works well as exchange though
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I don't think you can use a windows live or hotmail account as exchange in Mac
mail. Only mobile devices.
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On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Garth Humphreys wrote:
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> I have a new Mac Book Air 11Inc
agreed because when you set it up the server is m.hotmail.com
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Can it at least be setup to work as IMAP
I do not want to have to use the account as POP
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On 09/09/2011, at 3:16 PM, james Walton wrote:
> agreed because when you set it up the server is m.hotmail.com
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no
live can not be setup as imap
i wish it could
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