Sounds like they're afraid eventually you will give up the PC for the Mac
and stop buying their updates.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Kawal Gucukoglu
Subject: Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my activation.
I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion and as soon as
the representative heard that he said he would not support me by giving me a
new activation unless I wanted it for a native windows PC.  This year I went
to Site Village (an exhibition for all access Technology) and Eric Damerie
was there and I told him that I was running Jaws on a Mac and he simply did
not approve.

Kawal.
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On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:

> Hi Kawal,
> 
>       Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least
three of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two
years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when working
on a unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I would
love it.  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and before I
knew it the rep was asking me questions as she said she loved her iPhone and
was considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help with my work
PC and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and
told him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it was not
supported.  In fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed familiar with
the Mac.  The Mac seems to, in my experience, be becoming popular with at
least some of these reps.  It really was one of these reps that was the
final straw resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  I've never looked back!
> 
> In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in
all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready knowledgeable
about the Mac or curious about them.
> 
> 
> Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am
convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be better
then my experience on a native PC. 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you
were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem
as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold
from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my
friend and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We
have checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside
windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores
its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on
other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were
starting to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian
freedom scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire
afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the solution,
found by accident.
>>> 
>>> What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know
of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all
your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find
that from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling,
autostart, and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it
seems that this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear,
my friend's friend encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He
passed it on, and now it works for my friend as well. 
>>> Hth,
>>> Paul.
>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Kawal and Paul,
>>>> 
>>>>  thanks for this added info.
>>>> 
>>>>  My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I
deleted the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get
a strange message that says something like can not connect file
User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/
Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file.
Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things
seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided
to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS
directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute
mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start
at log in.  This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I
need it to come up talking. 
>>>> 
>>>> So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but
I can't get either one to work correctly. 
>>>> 
>>>> I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing
someone else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to
having this working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one
of the machines. 
>>>> 
>>>> Tips are greatly appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>> I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing
their bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong.
Can't you remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into
fusion?
>>>>> Hth,
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Listers using VM Fusion,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for
future listers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got
Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine
Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it
to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
>>>>>>  I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold
the JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and
authorization sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too
much time trying to get this VM working! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eric Caron 
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