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2009-09-07 Thread william lomas
hi has this gone to the list this time and not to the list member? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googleg

Re: test

2009-09-07 Thread John Sanfilippo
this went to the list. I'm responding. js On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:39 PM, william lomas wrote: > > hi has this gone to the list this time and not to the list > member? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: using macbook with closed lid?

2009-09-07 Thread Justin Harford
This is, from what I have read, quite possible. Basically you connect the keyboard and the braille display to the computer, close the computer lid, and then start typing on the keyboard to wake it up. I'm pretty sure this can be done with bluetooth if you allow bluetooth devices to wake

Re: Clickable

2009-09-07 Thread Justin Harford
I don't drink coffee. On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > Dude, switch to the decaf, the people on this list all (to my > knowledge) volunteers and they do their best to help each other out. > Further examination of your "clickable" issues may be indicated but > you needn't be

Re: Fixed the double speaking of tweets in syrinx very easy to fix

2009-09-07 Thread Dan Eickmeier
I've turned this off, and tweets are still being spoken twice for me here. Why that is I'm not sure On Sep 7, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I have this turned off as well, I don't the computer assuming I want > to interact with something, better left up to the user in that case. >

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Chris Hofstader
The major reason between JAWS and its scripting facility is that it *must* have scripts to function. Just making VO scriptable doesn't make it any more reliant on scripts than it is today but with something like AppleScript, one can add some finesse to how VO interacts with certain applic

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Chris Hofstader
Two thunbs up!!! On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > > I think that if you don't like using scripts with screen readers, then > don't use them. It's silly to ask Apple to take out a feature of > VoiceOver that some people might want. If the mac gets more popular, > some blind peopl

RE: media event

2009-09-07 Thread Blake Sinnett
You might try live.twit.tv around the time of the event. > From: lomaswill...@googlemail.com > Subject: media event > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:53:37 +0100 > To: disc...@macvisionaries.com > > > hi will the ipod event on wednesday be streamed anywhere? > Will > > > > --~--~-~--~

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Barry Hadder
I think it sounds like a bad idea. I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over. I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are scriptable and I think it is a mistake to read to much into why it was added to vo. This only adds to the power of Voiceov

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread timsniffen
I think it would be a shame to lose the ability to script VoiceOver. I work with the Veteran Administration Blind Rehab service and am interested in helping older Veterans learn to use the Mac -- either because they were Mac users before losing vision or because they are just getting into computi

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread James & Nash
I agree with Barry. Adding script functionality to VO only increases its power and also make things easier for elderly people who are learning to use a Screen Reader for the first time. Personally, I think JFW like VO is really great, but I also think that JFW has loads of commands that I can

Re: audio higjack pro

2009-09-07 Thread Dan Eickmeier
And what about Sound Flower? Is that actually working under Snow Leopard? Or not yet? On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote: > > Yes, but instant hijack for apps is broken. > > HTH, > > Steve > > On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:57 AM, william lomas wrote: > > > hi in snowleopard can

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Barry Hadder
I'm possibly being nit picky, but I wanted to correct a particular choice of words I used. I said that some people wore raising valid concerns in regards to vo becoming like Jaws. I will change that to possible concerns. At the moment they are only possible in that "anything is possible". Bar

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Scripts are usually an extension to a given program, those of whom want to customize their own experience further. It's part of the tools that people use to make their lives easier, and more efficient when encountering redundancy or other such issues. I think that Apple is well aware of th

Re: audio higjack pro

2009-09-07 Thread James & Nash
I'm not sure but I thought sound flower was part of the instant hijack althoug not directly connected. - Original Message - From: "Dan Eickmeier" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: audio higjack pro > > And what about Sound Flower? Is that actually working und

Re: jamochamud (java program)

2009-09-07 Thread J. Robinson
Hi there, I'm the author of JamochaMUD. In the interest of making JamochaMUD as good as it can be for multiple platforms, I'd be interested in hearing exactly what problems you are having with JamochaMUD to see if I can solve them. Especially if there are certain things that are Mac-specific th

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey Chris, it's interesting that you mention the whole off screen model, actually I'm amazed that voice over does as well as it does without one, I wonder if windows screen readers will ever be able to move away from this approach, I think the only screen reader that does not have one is N

Re: music applications on the mac

2009-09-07 Thread Scott Chesworth
Anouk, The answer to this is yes, there are plenty of applications on mac comparable to Sonar, the big 3 probably being Pro Tools Logic and Digital Performer, with many more options beyond that. Unfortunately though, none of these are currently accessible with VO. Logic is probably the leader of

data decter

2009-09-07 Thread Rich Ring
I sent this message using a data decter. Very nice. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from th

Accessible Status Menu Bar Icons and VoiceOver (also, new SoundSource for Snow Leopard)

2009-09-07 Thread Esther
Hi all, There's been some discussion about applications which put icons on the Status Menu bar that VoiceOver cannot navigate to. Some examples include the early versions of ExpanDrive (the GUI-based FTP/SFTP/ Amazon S3 etc. file sharing tool), Caffeine (a program that allows you to overri

applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to help polyglotts in this list? I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are veterans, give me some pointers :) Basically, i

Re: creating ringtones

2009-09-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
Donna, I've only done it a few times so I may not remember but the trick is - according to the steps I sent you - to go to the "get info" menu with command+i and then set the begin" and 'end" times of your ring-tone. It takes a bit of experimenting but once you set the begin and end point

Re: test

2009-09-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
Dear William, This has gone to the list all right. Best wishes, Simon On 7 Sep 2009, at 18:39, william lomas wrote: > > hi has this gone to the list this time and not to the list > member? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message bec

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Yuma, To switch languages on the fly, hold down Control-Option-Command then use the left or right arrow until you reach "Default voice (name)", then use the down arrow to change the voice. If you don't move to another setting, the next time you press these modifier keys, you will be

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I think if you did this, you would need to write it too its own function. Generally the events I have seen for AppleScript are not as widely available as for example in jaws. There are "Folder Action" scripts that can do special functions when a file is added to or removed from a folder. (

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
Yuma, I think you have to have Snow Leopard for this combination to work. Best wishes, Simon On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:34, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi Anne, > > I tried it and it only gives me rate, intonation, pitch and volume. > control option command and left or right arrow, right? > > Hmm

Re: Accessible Status Menu Bar Icons and VoiceOver (also, new SoundSource for Snow Leopard)

2009-09-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Esther, Once again you are amazing. Now you just need to get Apple to fix this API>... Jon On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi all, > > There's been some discussion about applications which put icons on the > Status Menu bar that VoiceOver cannot navigate to. Some examples > in

Re: audio higjack pro

2009-09-07 Thread Justin Harford
I used audio hijack today and it worked great. On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > I'm not sure but I thought sound flower was part of the instant hijack > althoug not directly connected. > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Eickmeier" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 07,

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Justin Harford
That would be neat. J On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to help > polyglotts in this list? > > I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted > enough with applescript, ple

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Anne, I tried it and it only gives me rate, intonation, pitch and volume. control option command and left or right arrow, right? Hmm, i had my apple script editor up and took a shower to delve into this. Thought it would be a good idea for a first apple script :) Thanks though, if i can

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi John, Thanks for some insight on this :) I've decided to start with something a bit simpler and work from there. i want to start something like this: variable="language" Language=voice type in voice over menu variable="french" french=margaux infovox ivox hq tell "voice over" open tab voice

scripting voiceover

2009-09-07 Thread Randy Stegall
Where can those of us who do not know apple script find a beginner's guide? Randy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googleg

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Greg Kearney
Well built Macintosh applications should support scripting. AppleScript is a core service of the OS and I and other VoiceOVer users and developer were asking for AppleScript support from the very start of VoiceOver and well before the NFB ever heard of VoiceOver. All Mac application should

Re: scripting voiceover

2009-09-07 Thread Barry Hadder
There is an interactive tutorial at: http://www.macosxautomation.com/applescript/firsttutorial/index.html You can also get to the Apple script language guide from the script editor help menu. On Sep 7, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Randy Stegall wrote: > > Where can those of us who do not know apple sc

Re: scripting voiceover

2009-09-07 Thread Randy Stegall
Thanks, Barry. I will take a look at this. Randy On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > > There is an interactive tutorial at: > http://www.macosxautomation.com/applescript/firsttutorial/index.html > > You can also get to the Apple script language guide from the script > editor hel

a little querk about max

2009-09-07 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi friends, has any one else noticed that if you use the get ITunes metadata script to rip cd information from ITunes into max it puts all the cd's whose information you get from ITunes into the compilations folder? I'm just now ripping all my cd's to flac and it's becoming rather a nucen

Re: music applications on the mac

2009-09-07 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Anouk, There's good reason to hope for logic. It would help if you wrote to the apple accessibility team on this as it's reasonably well along already and really has been neglected the last little while. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 88

RE: finding playback position in ituens, was creating ringtones

2009-09-07 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Simon, Thanks so much for the help. I just want to make sure I understand. Is what you're saying that I need to set the start and stop positions, and then see what fragment of the song I end up with? I can see the total length of the song, so could make an approximate guess, but that see

Re: creating ringtones

2009-09-07 Thread Cara Quinn
Actually you can use either your own music or music that you've purchased from the iTunes store. If it's iTunes plus, then you can create ringtones yourself through iTunes without needing to purchase them. I believe this has already been posted here, but if it hasn't please do feel

Re: creating ringtones

2009-09-07 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Donna, When you get to the place where you want the ringtone to start, press Space to pause playback. Then make sure you're focused on Music in the Source list, press Control-L to focus on the currently playing song, navigate to the LCD section, and interact with it. It includes such i

Migration Assistant not recognizing External Hard Drives

2009-09-07 Thread Justin Kauflin
Hey everyone, I am stumped. I have just did a clean install of Snow Leopard. I tried running migration assistant, but the assistant doesn't seem to recognize the external hard drives I have plugged in. i was able to use them to make the back ups, and they show up in the side bar in the finder, b

Re: Accessible Status Menu Bar Icons and VoiceOver (also, new SoundSource for Snow Leopard)

2009-09-07 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Esther, Your post was interesting. One thing I'm still not clear on, though, is whether there's a way to access the new version of Sound Source. I downloaded it earlier today, and I can't find it either on the status menu or via Command-Tab Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~---

Re: media event

2009-09-07 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi, Does anyone know the time of the event? I'd love a live stream as well. Best, Anna On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: > You might try live.twit.tv around the time of the event. > > > From: lomaswill...@googlemail.com > > Subject: media event > > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:53:

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread dannyboy
I did not think of the scripting in Orca. On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Absolutely, I think the thing to remember, is that the scripts are > an option > and only an option. Developers are still going to have to make their > apps > accessible, especially now that most if

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread dannyboy
Maybe it is good I have not yet written apple. On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > > I think it sounds like a bad idea. > > I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over. > I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are > scriptable and I think

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread dannyboy
Hello. Thank you for the explanation about apple script. On Sep 7, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: > > Well built Macintosh applications should support scripting. > AppleScript is a core service of the OS and I and other VoiceOVer > users and developer were asking for AppleScript support f

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Cara Quinn
I'd need to agree with this. It's ridiculous to encourage the abandonment of a feature simply because you yourself might not like it or want to use it. As long as it's not interfering with your use of the product, complaining about it is really moot at best, and detrimental at wors

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Jes Smith
Thank you, all for your comments. That really puts my mind at ease. I was not trying to complain, I was just trying to get some concerns out there. IF people felt like I was complaining, that was not my intention. So sorry if it came out like that. Jes On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Cara Quin

activating devices

2009-09-07 Thread william lomas
hi, I am surprised ITunes does not have a way on the amc yet, to activate devices for use on audible.com regards Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To pos

auto interact

2009-09-07 Thread william lomas
Hi al I like how snowleopard auto interacts with items. For example if I choose my home folder it auto opens it and puts me in the browser view. How cool WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

RE: Skype and Voice Over.

2009-09-07 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Mike, Thank you for asking. Well, I am absolutely loving it. I feel as though entire new "Vistas" (get it?) have been opened up for me. The interaction between VoiceOver/Snow Leopard and Jaws/Windows is so different. While I have never driven a car, based on what I have heard f

A Question About Snow Leopard Folders

2009-09-07 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, What are Spring Loaded Folders? Thank you, Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To

Re: Skype and Voice Over.

2009-09-07 Thread william lomas
what is the software called? On 8 Sep 2009, at 07:50, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Mike, > > Thank you for asking. > > Well, I am absolutely loving it. I feel as though entire new > "Vistas" (get > it?) have been opened up for me. > > The interaction between VoiceOver/Snow Leopard and Jaws/Win

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