Hello.  Thank you for the explanation about apple script.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> Well built Macintosh applications should support scripting.
> AppleScript is a core service of the OS and I and other VoiceOVer
> users and developer were asking for AppleScript support from the very
> start of VoiceOver and well before the NFB ever heard of VoiceOver.
>
> All Mac application should support AppleScript as a rule and in fact
> if you build your application in XCode and Interface Builder now they
> do.
>
> The addition of AppleScript support was and is just bringing VoiceOver
> up to the standards that all Mac applications should strive for. Not
> having it was an omission on the part of Apple and one that I as a
> developer am glad that they corrected. Would that every developer
> would do the same for their applications.
>
>
> Gregory Kearney
> Manager - Accessible Media
> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>
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>
> On 07/09/2009, at 8:52 PM, Jes Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I am greatly concerned that voice over now has support for scripting.
>> Especially now that you can make voice over launch an application  
>> with
>> a single script. I'm not talking about glancing at the time or seeing
>> how many unread messages you have in mail. I'm talking about opening
>> up apps like mail or Safari from within Voice OVer. I am concerned
>> that voice over is starting to become a bit like Jaws, and that if we
>> don't get a grip on it now, voice over will become Jaws for  
>> Macintosh.
>> I, like Mike Arrigo, don't feel that launching apps is something that
>> should be implemented in a screen reader. Also, I fear that the use  
>> of
>> apple scripts will replace the responsibility of an application
>> developer to make their application accessible right out of the box.
>> On the Windows side, if something isn't accessible with Jaws, you  
>> just
>> download scripts for it. What if you go to another person's computer
>> and they don't have the scripts for the app you are trying to use?
>> It's my belief that a certain article from the NFB prompted this
>> scripting support. Folks, the thing I like about voice over is that  
>> it
>> gives the blind user the same conceptual layout and information as it
>> appears on the screen to a sighted user. No other screen reader does
>> this, and we should keep voice over as a screen reader, and let it  
>> be.
>> If we don't, eventually, when we try and contact an Apple developer,
>> they will either ignore us, or will say, "Well, just download the
>> scripts for my application and you will have access."
>> Any thoughts? If someone disagrees with me, I'd love to hear your
>> arguments, not so that I can persuade you to agree with me, but so
>> that I can have a new perspective.
>>
>> Jes
>>
>>
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