I'm possibly being nit picky, but I wanted to correct a particular choice of words I used.
I said that some people wore raising valid concerns in regards to vo becoming like Jaws. I will change that to possible concerns. At the moment they are only possible in that "anything is possible". Barry Hadder wrote: > I think it sounds like a bad idea. > > I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over. > I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are > scriptable and I think it is a mistake to read to much into why it was > added to vo. This only adds to the power of Voiceover. All of this > talk on what Apple's philosophy for putting this feature in to vo is > pure speculation. > > Let's just use the scripting facilities they have given us and see > where it takes us. That's not to say that there haven't been some > valid concerns raised on this topic, it's just that at this time there > isn't really any evidence to support them. It's way too early to say > where the ability to script vo is going to take it. > > On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Jes Smith wrote: > > > > > That sounds like a good idea. > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:58 PM, dannyboy wrote: > > > >> > >> I am in full agreement that voice over needs not to be full of > >> scripts > >> to do everything for us. Maybe we could write to accessibil...@apple.com > >> and share our thoughts on this. > >> On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Jes Smith wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi all. > >>> > >>> I am greatly concerned that voice over now has support for > >>> scripting. > >>> Especially now that you can make voice over launch an application > >>> with > >>> a single script. I'm not talking about glancing at the time or > >>> seeing > >>> how many unread messages you have in mail. I'm talking about opening > >>> up apps like mail or Safari from within Voice OVer. I am concerned > >>> that voice over is starting to become a bit like Jaws, and that if > >>> we > >>> don't get a grip on it now, voice over will become Jaws for > >>> Macintosh. > >>> I, like Mike Arrigo, don't feel that launching apps is something > >>> that > >>> should be implemented in a screen reader. Also, I fear that the use > >>> of > >>> apple scripts will replace the responsibility of an application > >>> developer to make their application accessible right out of the box. > >>> On the Windows side, if something isn't accessible with Jaws, you > >>> just > >>> download scripts for it. What if you go to another person's computer > >>> and they don't have the scripts for the app you are trying to use? > >>> It's my belief that a certain article from the NFB prompted this > >>> scripting support. Folks, the thing I like about voice over is that > >>> it > >>> gives the blind user the same conceptual layout and information as > >>> it > >>> appears on the screen to a sighted user. No other screen reader does > >>> this, and we should keep voice over as a screen reader, and let it > >>> be. > >>> If we don't, eventually, when we try and contact an Apple developer, > >>> they will either ignore us, or will say, "Well, just download the > >>> scripts for my application and you will have access." > >>> Any thoughts? If someone disagrees with me, I'd love to hear your > >>> arguments, not so that I can persuade you to agree with me, but so > >>> that I can have a new perspective. > >>> > >>> Jes > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
