I think it sounds like a bad idea. I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over. I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are scriptable and I think it is a mistake to read to much into why it was added to vo. This only adds to the power of Voiceover. All of this talk on what Apple's philosophy for putting this feature in to vo is pure speculation.
Let's just use the scripting facilities they have given us and see where it takes us. That's not to say that there haven't been some valid concerns raised on this topic, it's just that at this time there isn't really any evidence to support them. It's way too early to say where the ability to script vo is going to take it. On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Jes Smith wrote: > > That sounds like a good idea. > > > On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:58 PM, dannyboy wrote: > >> >> I am in full agreement that voice over needs not to be full of >> scripts >> to do everything for us. Maybe we could write to accessibil...@apple.com >> and share our thoughts on this. >> On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Jes Smith wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I am greatly concerned that voice over now has support for >>> scripting. >>> Especially now that you can make voice over launch an application >>> with >>> a single script. I'm not talking about glancing at the time or >>> seeing >>> how many unread messages you have in mail. I'm talking about opening >>> up apps like mail or Safari from within Voice OVer. I am concerned >>> that voice over is starting to become a bit like Jaws, and that if >>> we >>> don't get a grip on it now, voice over will become Jaws for >>> Macintosh. >>> I, like Mike Arrigo, don't feel that launching apps is something >>> that >>> should be implemented in a screen reader. Also, I fear that the use >>> of >>> apple scripts will replace the responsibility of an application >>> developer to make their application accessible right out of the box. >>> On the Windows side, if something isn't accessible with Jaws, you >>> just >>> download scripts for it. What if you go to another person's computer >>> and they don't have the scripts for the app you are trying to use? >>> It's my belief that a certain article from the NFB prompted this >>> scripting support. Folks, the thing I like about voice over is that >>> it >>> gives the blind user the same conceptual layout and information as >>> it >>> appears on the screen to a sighted user. No other screen reader does >>> this, and we should keep voice over as a screen reader, and let it >>> be. >>> If we don't, eventually, when we try and contact an Apple developer, >>> they will either ignore us, or will say, "Well, just download the >>> scripts for my application and you will have access." >>> Any thoughts? If someone disagrees with me, I'd love to hear your >>> arguments, not so that I can persuade you to agree with me, but so >>> that I can have a new perspective. >>> >>> Jes >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
