There is no move function and I am sure you could argue the advantages
and disadvantages. ASs far as moving items in the fashion that you
wish, dpo the following.
1. find the first item you wish include in the list you plan to move.
2. Interact with the list of items.
3. turn off cursor trac
Jason, I believe that jumping as you refer to it is VO focusing on the
default control.
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Jason Custer wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I have a cuple questions.
> First, I notice that when I am in some applications, My VoiceOver
> curser jumps to controls against my will so to
jason,
I don't recall having this issue. when I focus on the progress, it
stays there but if I move aay and back, I have to focus again.
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Jason Custer wrote:
Hello,
I have a cuple questions.
First, I notice that when I am in some applications, My VoiceOver
curser
modorator please! take this discussion off list?
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Alex, I've said this before, these one-liners clutter the list much
more than any content you'd post.
So, what I'm saying here, to be clear, is rather than post a one
line note about what you'
Hi Guys, Got an interesting problem with a time capsil, in that
whenever the wireless internet connection drops you have to log in
manually to restore the connection to the tc. Right, so if you
restart the mac you have to manually log in to the tc. Or, for
example, he's pretty far away
hi alex.
i just took a very fast look at the page you posted... one question.
why have the ispeak project not been mentioned at all on the webpage?
or maybe i am looking the wrong place ?
/sandi
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I am writing this now in full, s
Hi All,
Is there a Mac command to re-size an application window to full
screen, and then back to the previous size?
Thanks,
Gary
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Hi, Gary,
Usually, clicking on the zoom button on the top left (the third vo
heard item in most windows (close button, minimize button, zoom
button) will expand a window to full screen. If the window is
already expanded, it will usually return it to the previous size.
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Yes, but when I want to read the contents of another control, the
blasted thing jumps to the default control before I am done with my
task. Is this preventable?
Thanks,
Jason
On Mar 8, 2009, at 1:32 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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> Jason, I believe that jumping as you refer to it is VO focusing o
and there is also a zoom item in the window menu.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
Hi, Gary,
Usually, clicking on the zoom button on the top left (the third vo
heard item in most windows (close button, minimize button, zoom
button) will expand a window to full screen. If t
Why can't you just you VO enter to start selecti
n where you want to start, and then when you come to an item o you
don't wish to be included in the selected group, hit VO command space?
and then proceeding
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Hi,
First, let's try to solve the wireless phone breaking the network
connection. I'd suggest trying to go to the Airport Administration
Utility and try to manually set the wireless channel. Playing with
the channel number could yield better wireless connections.
Now, is the time capsule be
Hello Gary,
You can create your own shortcut by going to the Keyboard&Mouse pane
of System Preferences and selecting Keyboard Shortcuts. The
instructions are there on how to create a shortcut. It is important to
type the name of the menu item correctly, including capital letters.
If you ha
hi on the unit converter widget, is something wrong with the
data?
on the currencty section
I typed for example 400 US dollalrs, how can that equal only seven
british ounds?
I know we are in economic downturn but lol!
will
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Why not use the calculator. It has currency conversion and it's always
up to date.
Dan
key...@comcast.net
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:29 AM, william lomas wrote:
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> hi on the unit converter widget, is something wrong with the
> data?
> on the currencty section
> I typed f
Hello; You could try using the converter on my site www.midwaymarketplace.com
I don't remember where i got it, but it works. Hope that helps, Max
On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:29 AM, william lomas wrote:
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>hi on the unit converter widget, is something wrong with the
> data?
> on the curr
Hello; I just ran 400 british pounds to us dollars and got 563.66
Hope that helps, Max
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I wonder what is up with the online widget though?
will
On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:40, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
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> Hello; You could try using the converter on my site www.midwaymarketplace.com
> I don't remember where i got it, but it works. Hope that helps, Max
> On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:29 AM, wil
how is the in built calcualtor always up to date?
Don't you ahve to enter the values for the currencies yourself as they
change?
On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:38, Dan wrote:
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> Hello,
> Why not use the calculator. It has currency conversion and it's always
> up to date.
>
>
> Dan
>
> key...@comcast.ne
i only got 400 GBP to 170 US dollars
just curious why it is not working
On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:43, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
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> Hello; I just ran 400 british pounds to us dollars and got 563.66
> Hope that helps, Max
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Hello,
It does it on line. I have never had a problem with the conversions.
In fact, you can even see when it was last updated. When After you
plug in the first value and go to the conversion menu and pick
currency, you will see the update as well as changing the to and from
options and th
Confirmed here too between us dollar and Swedish krona, and between
danish Krona and Swedish krona. I too wonder what's up.
/Krister
8 mar 2009 kl. 17.29 skrev william lomas:
>
> hi on the unit converter widget, is something wrong with the
> data?
> on the currencty section
> I
Why take the clumciest rout when there's a much nicer one handy?
8 mar 2009 kl. 17.38 skrev Dan:
>
> Hello,
> Why not use the calculator. It has currency conversion and it's always
> up to date.
>
>
> Dan
>
> key...@comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:29 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>>
it not urgent just curious
On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:53, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>
> Confirmed here too between us dollar and Swedish krona, and between
> danish Krona and Swedish krona. I too wonder what's up.
> /Krister
>
> 8 mar 2009 kl. 17.29 skrev william lomas:
>
>>
>> hi on the uni
Hello,
Here's what I got with the calculator. 283.8347912
Dan
key...@comcast.net
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>
> Confirmed here too between us dollar and Swedish krona, and between
> danish Krona and Swedish krona. I too wonder what's up.
> /Krister
>
> 8 mar 2009 kl
Thanks everyone,
That worked for me.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Gary,
>
> You can create your own shortcut by going to the Keyboard&Mouse pane
> of System Preferences and selecting Keyboard Shortcuts. The
> instructions are there on how to create a shortcut. It
Hi,
Why not use the Google search bar if you want an approximate idea of
currency conversion? I press Command-Option-F, type in "400 dollars
in pounds", VO-I for item chooser menu and press "=", and then return.
I get:
400 U.S. dollars = 283.869136 British pounds
(pasted in using VO-Shif
OK friends,
This has bemused and confused me ever since I got my mac. Now I have
an audiobook review to submit, and I need need need to use the spell
checker. When I press command semicolon to start the spell checker,
it comes up and reads the first misspelled word. What do I do from
t
Hum, I looked in system preferences, but I don't have a start up or a
start items. I have a startup disc, but I don't think that's the same.
I found log on items under accounts that might be something. So I can
use this thing to automaticly log on to the time capsil at startup for
using i
Hello,
You need to use VO F2 twice then select the spelling and grammar window.
Dan
key...@comcast.net
On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:35 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
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> OK friends,
>
> This has bemused and confused me ever since I got my mac. Now I have
> an audiobook review to submit, and I need ne
Alternatively, you could hit vo+shift+m once misspelled word is
announced to get to a menu of suggested words.
On 3/8/09, Dan wrote:
>
> Hello,
> You need to use VO F2 twice then select the spelling and grammar window.
>
>
> Dan
>
> key...@comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:35 AM, erik
Hi Erik and Dan,
If Erik is using the spell checker in a TextEdit window, and has
pressed Command-semi-colon to go to the next misspelled word, he can
use VO-Shift-M to bring up a contextual menu of possible choices and
make his selection.
Cheers,
Esther
On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Dan w
I have installed Windows on my Mac using boot camp. I am wondering if
anyone knows the keyboard shortcuts for JAWS using the mac keyboard.
For instance, how do I do any commands that use the "insert" key?
Thanks
Alena
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Not sure about this myself, but if all else fails you can use JFW's
keyboard manager to reassign keys you have trouble using when bound to
their default assignments. There is also apparently something called
shark keys or keyshark which can reassign keys, reenabling the insert
key if you can't us
Hi,
My apologies. Yes, the MacOS X name is Login Items in the Accounts
system preferences. The Login Items is a tab for a given selected
account. My brain still fixes on the old OS 9 name for that, aka
startup items. Actually, think it may have been called that under
10.2. Regardless, yo
Hello,
I agree with you, however, consider this. That works fine in TextEdit
or Pages 9, but it doesn't work in Mail. That's why I mentioned that
way of doing it, because it works across most applications.
And the real nice thing is that there are always different ways to do
things and that
Hum, that's not working for me. I mean the window chooser comes up,
but there is no spelling and grammer window. Just for clarity, I shut
down text edit, re-opened my file, pressed command semicolon, pressed
vo f2, and the list of windows had my file, and force quit. No
spelling and gra
Yep, this was exactly what I needed. Leppard is wonderful, grins.
Thanks,
erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
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On 8-Mar-09, at 11:57 AM, James Dietz wrote:
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> Alternatively, you could hit vo+shift+m once misspe
Hi Erik, Dan, and James,
Just to summarize about using the spell checker in different apps:
In TextEdit, if you use Command-Semi-Colon to go to the next
misspelled word, you can use VO-Shift-M to bring up a contextual menu
and arrow down to select alternative spellings.
In Mail, VO-Shift-M
Hello,
In textedit, you only need press Command Semicolon then VO M to get to
the menu.
The way I mentioned is this.
1. Press Command Shift Colon. You will hear either Spelling and
Grammar or Hide Spelling and Grammar.
2. Now press VO F2 twice.
3. Now use the down arrow to select the spelling w
ok. will other speech synths be ported such as flight or festival? i
know those synths exist for windows and linux, but will they be ported
in mac to work with all speech applications?
On Mar 8, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am writing this now in full, smiley, after
set jaws to laptop mode nd use the capslock. that is what I am doing and
others as well.
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I have installed Windows on my Mac using boot camp. I am wondering if
anyone
I just got $400 equals £283.835 using my converter on the Dashboard Widgit.
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Hi All,
Let me introduce myself. My name is Martin Pilkington and I'm a
software developer on the Mac. I'm starting to do a big accessibility
push and I'm trying to get many developers to join me. One of the key
parts of this push is a pledge to make all my applications 100%
accessible by
I think it would be cool to use the default voice set via system preferences
and make it where the program can be self voiceing if needed. Also provide an
option to turn on, or off the self voicing feature, this way if a user wants to
use voice over, great, if not, he or she still can do what n
very good points chris, i agree. Though the self voicing option isn't
a 100% thing, in some apps it would truly be nice.
mike
On Mar 8, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
> I think it would be cool to use the default voice set via system
> preferences and make it where the program can be
What do you mean, it's notta 100% thing?
Chris.
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As a great example, an app like Boxee would be amazing with self
voicing menus. Boxee is a media center app like FrontRow, but able to
do much more. However, that doesn't help any of us, as it doesn't have
hooks for Voiceover. The interface is not one that uses standard
windows and objects.
Hi Chris,
I'm not 100% sure whether it is possible to detect whether the user is
using a braille display or not, but I'll definitely look into it. If
OS X doesn't allow me to give different descriptions to braille
devices I'll try and get in touch with developers at Apple to see if
they ca
By self voicing I mean, have it so that with voice over not running the program
would still speak right out of the box. In other words, give the user the
option of using voice over, or! being able to rely on speech just within the
program itself. Kind a like what happens with the clock being s
I think it's wonderful what you're doing and I'm with you 100%.
You're setting a great example and considering how Apple is so
comitted to accessibility it should be easier to get other developers
on board than if you were using a different os. In any case, I saw no
need for self-voicing aps unti
Hmm, I guess I'm just a little confused about what benefit this would
have over voice over. Voice over is on every mac so it's not like
you'd ever been in a situation where you don't have voice access.
Unless there's something I'm not understanding it seems like it would
be an awful lot of
I'm wondering how to view chat transcripts in Adium? I tried view
transcripts but it was dimmed. Where are the chats saved?
Thanks,
Tiffanitsa
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Hi Tiffany,
This is exactly what I'm meaning when I talk about a sort of overview
giving a full text description of a window. You could bring it up at
any point and have it read to you. It would be written specifically
for those using voice over to give a better idea of what is where when
I dono, it was just a thought... I'll let others comment. Maybe I just tend to
over anolyze things, but what else is new. LOL!
Chris.
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Well, it seems to me that VoiceOver does a fine job. There is no need
for each developer to rewrite a screen reader in to every application.
Rather than make an application self-voicing, write hooks for
voiceover, or use standard controls. I hate configuring each
application's self-voicing
Hello,
The subject line says it all, In mail, how do I get from message 1 to
the last message with just one or two keystrokes?
Thank you,
Jason
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OK,
While interacting with a table, try VO-Shift Home and End keys to move
between the very first and very last possible object. So, it will
deliver you to the first item in the first row, and the last item to
the far right in the very last row.
If you're on a keyboard, your Home and End k
Hi,
Possibly. But one step at a time. If you want to contribute code that
does that to ISpeak, sure, by all means.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 8-Mar-09, at 2:33 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
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> ok. will other speech synths be ported such as flight or festival? i
> know those synths exist for windows and l
Hi,
It is coming. Check back soon.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 1-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
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> hi alex.
> i just took a very fast look at the page you posted... one question.
> why have the ispeak project not been mentioned at all on the webpage?
> or maybe i am looking the wrong place
o i see. can't wait to see this in action on te 17th.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Possibly. But one step at a time. If you want to contribute code that
> does that to ISpeak, sure, by all means.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 8-Mar-09, at 2:33 PM, Brandon Misch w
ok cool. will this be downloadable or will someone have to log in to
get it.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It is coming. Check back soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 1-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi alex.
>> i just took a very fast look a
Hi,
Hmm, If I'm feeling nice, smiley, which I am, yes, you can download it.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 8-Mar-09, at 9:15 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>
> ok cool. will this be downloadable or will someone have to log in to
> get it.
>
> On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I
Hi Jason and Ryan,
JC asked:
>
>> The subject line says it all, In mail, how do I get from message 1 to
>> the last message with just one or two keystrokes?
Esther: I've been playing with occasionally using a USB NumPad and
NumPad Commander with my MacBook, so I'll add the default sequences to
that's good. too bad people can't get a way to try it out now. lol.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Hmm, If I'm feeling nice, smiley, which I am, yes, you can download
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 8-Mar-09, at 9:15 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>
>>
>> ok cool.
Hi Martin,
First, thank you for making your programs accessible.
Second, I would like to share my brief thoughts on the subject. I like
your five objectives a lot. I think that if you can achieve all five
of them, no further work will be necessary on your part.
Some others have encouraged you t
Thanks, I have a white macbook, the plastic one. That was a big help!
Jason
On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:
>
> OK,
>
> While interacting with a table, try VO-Shift Home and End keys to move
> between the very first and very last possible object. So, it will
> deliver you to the fir
Self voicing defeats the purpose of Voice-over and causes undo work on the
part of the developer. What Ryan was saying about Boxy makes sense, but to
self-voice an app that can already be used by voiceover seems almost
overboard. Also, if you selfvoice an app, how do you account for dynamic
text th
Hi,
ISpeak V0.1 is available for free download. It is a very biginning
stage of the operation so don't expect very much.
http://www.vipbc.org/downloads/
Thanks,
Alex,
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we already have this in vo.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Martin Pilkington wrote:
Hi Tiffany,
This is exactly what I'm meaning when I talk about a sort of overview
giving a full text description of a window. You could bring it up at
any point and have it read to you. It would be written spec
The visual ways of doing things re explained but we have full access
via the keyboard to the gui if it is accessible.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
I think it's wonderful what you're doing and I'm with you 100%.
You're setting a great example and considering how Apple is so
com
this is redundant. the clock is self voicing on the hour for those
who don't need vo to take advantage of it. if I had a mind to, I'm
sure I could write an app to have vo announce te time at peridocic
intervals. The only reason to make an app self voicing is that it
cannot fit into the
it is not possible to do braille display detection for your purposes
on the mac os.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Martin Pilkington wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm not 100% sure whether it is possible to detect whether the user is
using a braille display or not, but I'll definitely look into it. If
OS
You should be talking to greg kearny.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:
As a great example, an app like Boxee would be amazing with self
voicing menus. Boxee is a media center app like FrontRow, but able to
do much more. However, that doesn't help any of us, as it doesn't have
h
self voicing should never be needed and in all 3rd party cases I've
seen it implemented for the mac os it is disasterous. you only need
look at firevox to understand this.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
very good points chris, i agree. Though the self voicing option isn'
Martin,
I'd be happy to test any vo compatible apps you develop or that you
know of that are developped. this is 100 ercent accessibility. I
don't know what software you write or have written but would encourage
youto stick to apple accessibility apis and work with apple if
something is
Hi all,
we've been discussing self voicing/voice over accessible apps in
another thread but I thought this might be a more compatible subject
line for that discussion.
I wanted to mention an excellent package demonstrating what can be
done on the mac os with regard to vo compatibility and
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