Hi Martin, First, thank you for making your programs accessible. Second, I would like to share my brief thoughts on the subject. I like your five objectives a lot. I think that if you can achieve all five of them, no further work will be necessary on your part. Some others have encouraged you to build self voicing capabilities into your programs, but I do not think this is necessary. I'm concerned first and foremost, that it would be a lot of work, and a possible deterrent to other apple developers thinking about future accessibility projects. I do want accessible apps, but this should be as easy to do as possible on the developers part. You are being considerate of us, so we should be considerate of you and your time and use pre-existing tools like VO to get the job done. Second, like another poster said, I find the voiceover settings and commands convenient for use in all programs. It would be counter intuitive to add different voicing keystrokes.
Thank you for reading, and I look forward to your useable applications for the mac. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. Sincerely, John On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Martin Pilkington wrote: > Hi All, > > Let me introduce myself. My name is Martin Pilkington and I'm a > software developer on the Mac. I'm starting to do a big > accessibility push and I'm trying to get many developers to join me. > One of the key parts of this push is a pledge to make all my > applications 100% accessible by the end of 2009. I've defined 100% > accessible to mean 5 things: > > 1. The UI available to VoiceOver users should be as user friendly as > the visual UI. > 2. All UI elements should have titles and/or descriptions. > 3. All custom controls should provide full keyboard access. > 4. There should be a clear and logical order to navigating UI fields > with the keyboard. > 5. Every part of an application should be reachable without the mouse. > > Now I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who hasn't > got a disability, so I'm hoping everyone on this list could help me. > Are there any other major points you would say an application needs > to be 100% accessible to you? Are there any things you would like to > find in an application as a user with a visual impairment that > aren't part of the standard Mac accessibility tool? For example, an > option to get a full text description of the current window and how > to use it, at any point in the application > > Hopefully I can get a lot of other Mac developers to join me in my > pledge, some others have already come on board with the idea. But > getting the developers on board is just one piece of the puzzle. The > most important piece is understanding exactly what your current > problems and wishes are for accessibility in Mac apps so any > feedback you can give me is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > > --------------------------------- > Martin Pilkington > Writer of Weird Symbols > pi...@mcubedsw.com > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---