Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
y bank web site. Equally there are things I will always if given a >>>>>> preference will do on the Mac side. In general for me as long as it >>>>>> works, I prefer doing things on the Mac now. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I want to advance m

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-18 Thread Georgina Joyce
y view in the >>>>> struggle to overcome visual impairment we should, if we can afford it, >>>>> utilise every useful option open to us. >>>>> >>>>> In the spectrum of options available I think both MacOs and iOS have >>>&

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
of an off the shelf system with braille support out of the >>>>> box and not find away to make good use of it. >>>>> With that said, there are some problems with some of your assertions that >>>>> I feel need to be addrest since nobody else has done

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-17 Thread Barry Hadder
with Voiceover. >>>> Specifically the Dropbox app. Any problems that may occur will be more to >>>> due with the third party developer rather than Apple. I don’t understand >>>> why you said they can’t be accessed with Voiceover. >>>> 2. The idea

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
What I’d love to see is a way to jump to the top of the visible Terminal output, and not the entire scrollback buffer. Nowadays, as a result of VoiceOver’s inability to do that, I read man pages by just putting “|cat” at the end of the command (e.g., “man ls|cat”) so the whole page ends up in t

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-16 Thread Sean Murphy
eover. >>>> Specifically the Dropbox app. Any problems that may occur will be more to >>>> due with the third party developer rather than Apple. I don’t understand >>>> why you said they can’t be accessed with Voiceover. >>>> 2. The idea that there sh

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-15 Thread Barry Hadder
ur opinion. It is not an accessibility issue. >>> This could be classified as a feature request however. >>> 3. What do you mean by network stations? I have no idea what button in >>> finder that you are referring to that connects to all available network >>>

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-15 Thread Sean Murphy
s? I have no idea what button in >>> finder that you are referring to that connects to all available network >>> shares at once. I know of no such button nor have I found any reference to >>> this function in the help documentation. Finding and connecting to network

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
ring to that connects to all available network >>> shares at once. I know of no such button nor have I found any reference to >>> this function in the help documentation. Finding and connecting to network >>> shares in finder is quite easy to do with voiceover and if you w

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-15 Thread Barry Hadder
r is quite easy to do with voiceover and if you want OS X to >> automatically connect to shares on your network, you can easily set this up >> in user preferences. So, I see no accessibility issue here. It’s possible >> however that I’m not understanding what you are

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-14 Thread Sean Murphy
rk >> shares in finder is quite easy to do with voiceover and if you want OS X to >> automatically connect to shares on your network, you can easily set this up >> in user preferences. So, I see no accessibility issue here. It’s possible >> however that I’m not understand

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-12 Thread David Griffith
preferences. So, I see no accessibility issue here. It’s possible > however that I’m not understanding what you are referring to, but in any > event I fail to see how this one thing could impact the usability of OS X for > blind people to the extent that one would email Tim Cook. > 4

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-12 Thread Barry Hadder
one would email Tim Cook. 4. Your subject is quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities. However, I don’t see how iWork compatibility with MS office has anything to do spasifically with blind people being able to use OS X. 5. With regard to manipulating the mouse with vo, there

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I agree about the Braille. I have not used my Braille display very much with the Mac because of what William says in his message. I thought by now as the Mac Operating Systems matured and developed, we'd have better Braille support. May be Freedom Scientific best give them a hand since they m

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-12 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Please have a look at my Applevis post, "Report-An-Accessibility-Bug-Friday”, an effort to get these bugs noticed: http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/report-accessibility-bug-friday It’d be very cool to get this going by tomorrow, although it hasn’t received a response yet. --

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I totally agree with you William regarding braille support. Its so basic that i seldom use it at all. It would be really intresting if we could show them how things work now and how things should work. /A > 12 feb 2015 kl. 07:10 skrev William Windels : > > Of course, this is done also but any

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-12 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Way to go. Let it all out! :) And to others: send Apple your feedback! Those bugs will not fix themselves, you know—Apple have to know about them first. Tomorrow is Friday. Shall we start a report-an-accessibility-bug-Friday tradition? Now, for my feelings on the matter: I would argue that

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-11 Thread William Windels
Of course, this is done also but any support or remark of you as voiceover-users is also very welcome Mvg william Windels Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 12-feb.-2015 om 06:30 heeft Faisal ali het > volgende geschreven: > > I think that this kind of an email should be directed toward apple

Re: quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-11 Thread Faisal ali
I think that this kind of an email should be directed toward apple accessibility as they can address some of your issues? > On Feb 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, William Windels > wrote: > > Hello, > > I am writing to you since the progress of the accessibility features are > really pour in the last r

quality of osx with voiceover for people with dissablities

2015-02-11 Thread William Windels
Hello, I am writing to you since the progress of the accessibility features are really pour in the last releases of osx 10.10.2. The mac is still missing some important features against windows with a commercial screenreader, and this after more 6 years of voiceover as built-in screenreader. O