Of course, this is done also but any support or remark of you as 
voiceover-users is also very welcome


Mvg
william Windels

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 12-feb.-2015 om 06:30 heeft Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I think that this kind of an email should be directed toward apple 
> accessibility as they can address some of your issues?
>> On Feb 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am writing to you since the progress of the accessibility features are 
>> really pour in the last releases of osx 10.10.2.
>> The mac is still missing some important features against windows with a 
>> commercial screenreader, and this after more 6 years of  voiceover as 
>> built-in screenreader.
>> Ok, voiceover is still a free, built-in screenreader but on windows , there 
>> are 2 free screenreader for the windows platform that are better in some 
>> cases than voiceover.
>> 
>> Braille is still very basicnin osx:
>> Some daily problems I discover with voiceover:
>> I can’t follow courses with only braille output (without speech) during 
>> colleges.
>> I mean: there is some important information missing on the braille display 
>> that’s only available with speech.
>> 
>> What is missing:
>>>> 1- no option for word wrapping: this can be useful for fast reading 
>>>> (loudly);
>>>> 2- no different modes line, structured, speech (like in jaws): specialy 
>>>> structured mode in jaws is configurable, type of controls is shown, 
>>>> interaction-levels could be shown on this way. 
>>>> It’s e.g. very frustrating if you are in a text area and you can read all 
>>>> with the braille-line but you can’t edit or simply move the cursor to any 
>>>> position that is visible on the braille display.
>>>> 
>>>> 3- to know if quicknav is on/off before moving isn’t possible also.
>>>> On this way , it’s very easy to lose your position in a text-area or a 
>>>> window.
>>>> The quick-nav option has also some bugs in general but is sometimes very 
>>>> useful for navigation (and specially on a macbook).
>> 
>>>> 4- In some cases, the text that’s in the voiceover cursor is (always) 
>>>> underlineed with dots 7-8. On this way , no other attributes are shown and 
>>>> the cursor isn’t shown. If dots 7,8 are turned off, the cursor isn’t 
>>>> visible at all and capitals aren’t shown also.
>>>> 
>>>> 5- When i put the cursor on a letter in a text I delete a .(dot) sign on 
>>>> the left sign of the cursor and voiceover says sometimes something else.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> further  braille bugs:
>> cursor routing on the first sign of the braille-display: the text on the 
>> display is gone;
>> when composing a message to multiple recipients , while the speech is saying 
>> correctly the contact that has the focus, the braille display isn’t 
>> following.
>> 
>>>> Further:
>> 
>> 
>> Some bugs since 10.9 aren’t fixed:
>> the icons in the statusbar like the third party app dropbox can’t be 
>> accessed with voiceover from there.
>> The drag and drop-function with voiceover is not improved since the 
>> introduction in osx 10.7 and  gives not the same possibilities for blind 
>> users as for sighted users.
>> The button to mount all external (network)-stations at once in finder is not 
>> accessible with voiceover;
>> 
>> And some different points:
>> Ibooks was basically accessible with voiceover after one update from osx 
>> 10.9 to osx 10.10.
>> 
>> iWork’s is mainly accessible but is still missing some important 
>> compatibility options to work together with ms office.
>> (most of the people that work in a administrative job, use windows with ms 
>> office).
>> 
>> I still love the mac because of some intuïtive features like the trackpad 
>> with voiceover, time-machine, the possibility to maintain the system as 
>> blind user on my own.
>> But , I don’t know if the newest features for blind users are good and 
>> innovative enough to spend that much money on.
>> 
>> With so great financial results the last weeks that where announced from 
>> Apple, I should hope that more innovation is coming for people with 
>> disabilities.
>> 
>> Keep on the work that  Steve Jobs has started.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> William Windels
>> 
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