Re: New Sonoma user has questions I’ve been using Catalina on a MacBook Air and my iOS device with iOS 17 for the longest time. Now I have a new MacBook Pro with Sonoma and I love the thing except for

2023-12-05 Thread Suzanne Erb
Hello, The only way I have been able to get rid of things like disk not ejecting properly is holding down the Fn, VO, and hitting the o key. Then I get a menu with choices, including the close button. That generally seems to work. Happy notice squelching, Suzanne > On Dec 5, 2023, at 00:20, Dave

Re: New Sonoma user has questions I’ve been using Catalina on a MacBook Air and my iOS device with iOS 17 for the longest time. Now I have a new MacBook Pro with Sonoma and I love the thing except for

2023-12-04 Thread Herbie Allen
You can go to the notification center to disable the one s you don’t want. You can also access the center with Function N and VO Command Space to bring up the Actions roter. You can dismiss them from there. > On Dec 4, 2023, at 14:57, Phil Halton wrote: > > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > Th

New Sonoma user has questions I’ve been using Catalina on a MacBook Air and my iOS device with iOS 17 for the longest time. Now I have a new MacBook Pro with Sonoma and I love the thing except for the

2023-12-04 Thread Phil Halton
Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than

Re: setting up a new macbook pro

2018-12-20 Thread John Panarese
aly wrote: > > Great! Thanks John! I appreciate that! > the command key is the first on the left of the space bar? is that right? > shirley > - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:43 AM > Subject: Re: sett

Re: setting up a new macbook pro

2018-12-19 Thread Shirley Healy
Great! Thanks John! I appreciate that! the command key is the first on the left of the space bar? is that right? shirley - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:43 AM Subject: Re: setting up a new macbook pro You should b

Re: setting up a new macbook pro

2018-12-19 Thread John Panarese
You should be verbally prompted to start VoiceOver with command-F5. At least, this is what normally happens. If you don’t get prompted, just press command-F5 after about fifteen or twenty seconds of turning on the machine. From there, you will have speech and you can follow the on screen prom

setting up a new macbook pro

2018-12-19 Thread Shirley Healy
so can anyone tell me when I turn on my new mac, what happens? how do I set it up? I am a totally new mac user. I dont know anything about the mac at all. I need to be able to turn on vo. can I do that before setting the mac up? or do I need sighted assistance to set it up? what do I need to kno

RE: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for your new MacBook Pro

2018-10-07 Thread Simon Fogarty
tc do carry -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 8:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for your new MacBook Pro Actually, Simo

Re: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for your new MacBook Pro

2018-10-06 Thread David Chittenden
f dan d. > Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 7:55 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com; > only-apple-...@groups.io; blindapp...@groups.io > Subject: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for > your new MacBook Pro > > > >

RE: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for your new MacBook Pro

2018-10-05 Thread Simon Fogarty
ries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dan d. Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 7:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com; only-apple-...@groups.io; blindapp...@groups.io Subject: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for your new MacBook Pro Re

Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for your new MacBook Pro

2018-10-05 Thread dan d.
Reports they are bricked if not repaired by apple. https://www.macworld.com/article/3311736/macs/macbook-pro-repair-software-lock.html -- XB m -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of

Re: major audio issues on my new MacBook pro when running windows ten via bootcamp... driver issue?

2018-09-29 Thread Steve Matzura
You are not the first person from whom I have heard about this problem. A friend of mine was on to Microsoft the other day, and they insist it's a bad Apple-provided driver. However, if you connect a USB audio interface to the Mac via a Thunderbolt-to-USB adapter cable, that device works and so

Re: major audio issues on my new MacBook pro when running windows ten via bootcamp... driver issue?

2018-09-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi Cameron! I have a friend who has windows 10 and a focusright sound card. He has other problems for example he has to unplug and replug the soundcard evry now and then. SO i guess its something with the card drivers. Just a thought from my perspective. Not sure why it wont let you install gener

major audio issues on my new MacBook pro when running windows ten via bootcamp... driver issue?

2018-09-28 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi everyone. I have been doing forum searches and reading articles etc and can't figure out what's going on here. If anybody has any tips, please let me know! Thanks. I recently sold my two older macs and bought a new 2018 MacBook pro with ssd, six core processor, and 16 gigs of ram. I do some t

RE: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!

2017-08-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!! Hi all, Sorry for that last blank message. Well, I'm on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so sorry in advance if this is a dumb question. I

Re: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!

2017-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to > me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so > sorry in advance if this is a dumb question. If you turn on the MacBook Pro > via the touch sensor, how do you turn it on for the first t

RE: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!

2017-08-27 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
home with my new MacBook Pro!!! I got the 13 inch with the Touch Bar. And I should have figured that Apple would be at least one step ahead of me. :-) The minute I opened up the lid, VoiceOver came on, and I was prompted as to whether I want to use voiceover. The set up was quite painless

Re: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!

2017-08-27 Thread Donna Goodin
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:23 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!! > > Hi all, > > Sorry for that last bl

RE: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!

2017-08-27 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
com Subject: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!! Hi all, Sorry for that last blank message. Well, I'm on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so sorry in advance if this is a dumb

On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!

2017-08-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, Sorry for that last blank message. Well, I'm on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so sorry in advance if this is a dumb question. If you turn on the MacBook Pro via the to

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-24 Thread Michael Busboom
>>>> On 2/23/2017 8:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know if anyone else is having problems with this, and perhaps I >>>>> should be asking on a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am >&

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread Cara Quinn
2/23/2017 8:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> I don’t know if anyone else is having problems with this, and perhaps I >>> should be asking on a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am >>> having: >>> >>> While using

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread E.T.
a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am having: While using my 2009 MacBook, I manually created folders in Dropbox and manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread Cara Quinn
>> While using my 2009 MacBook, I manually created folders in Dropbox and >> manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, >> where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, >> I found that I could log ont

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread Scott Berry
gt;> should be asking on a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am >>>> having: >>>> >>>> While using my 2009 MacBook, I manually created folders in Dropbox and >>>> manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread E.T.
y copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that I could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual files in my root folder. However, none of the folders and subfolders were v

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread Michael Busboom
manually created folders in Dropbox and >> manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, >> where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, >> I found that I could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual &

Re: Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread E.T.
ox and manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that I could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual files in my root folder. However, none of the folders and

Frustrations with Dropbox on a new MacBook Pro

2017-02-23 Thread Michael Busboom
Dropbox, where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that I could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual files in my root folder. However, none of the folders and subfolders were visible on the new machine. I know that the folders are

Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-02 Thread Scott Granados
ote: >> >>> So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel! >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote: >>> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a >>> limitation, I thought people m

Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-02 Thread Scott Granados
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind > Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro > > I could use 32 GB today to run more virtual machines at the same time. I’d > like to be able to

Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-02 Thread Terje Strømberg
in Chao wrote: > >> So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel! >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote: >> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a >> limitation, I thought people might find

RE: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-02 Thread Simon Fogarty
ubject: Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro I could use 32 GB today to run more virtual machines at the same time. I’d like to be able to run 20 at a time or more. I would think a lot of film editor

RE: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-02 Thread Simon Fogarty
;s choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro Well, according to what I was reading today, next year. Better chip, cheaper prices. And frankly, what does the average person do that needs more than 16 GB of RAM? You say we will have to wait, as though you are going t

Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-01 Thread Scott Granados
20 AM Mary Otten > <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a >> limitation, I thought people might find this article interesting. It looks >> like Intel, not Apple, is to blame, if you want to call it t

Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-01 Thread Mary Otten
? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > > So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel! > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote: >> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the

Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-11-01 Thread Kevin Chao
So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel! On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote: > In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a > limitation, I thought people might find this article interesting. It looks > like Intel,

Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro

2016-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a limitation, I thought people might find this article interesting. It looks like Intel, not Apple, is to blame, if you want to call it that, for some of the limitations. Mary Intel's chip design, not Apple's choic

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Granados
ll VM will be a different >>>>> situation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Simon f >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> [mailto:macvisionari

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-31 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
t;>> situation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Simon f >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM >>>> To:

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
t; From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Brandt Steenkamp >>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 4:02 AM >>> To: macvisio

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Trying to use a surface book the way a laptop should be used, on your lap, instead of on a desk, is impossible. I have actually seen one fall and break

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread David Chittenden
the surface book? >> >> I like that a hell of a lot more than the surface pro. >> >> >> >> From: >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Brandt Steenkamp >> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over > and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 > > Okay, that is pushing things a bit far. > > Firstly, sited people still need and want physical keyboards. Why do you > reckon they sell Bluetooth keyboards for t

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
what runs in the actuall VM will be a different >>>> situation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Simon f >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Sunday,

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 I know laptop sales aren't exactly knocking it out of the park, but aren't a tablet sales also rather down? Maybe these convertibl

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 The surface and surface book are two completely different devices. I have never dealt with the surface myself. Is like calling a Mac an iPad. Not the same thing. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from my Macbook Pro

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Sunday, 30 October 2016 10:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Hi there, The surface book, is supposed to be a laptop. The problem with it, is when you hold it on

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
ooglegroups.com> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen >> specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it &

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
ised. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> C

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Okay, that is pushing things a bit far. Firstly, sited people still need and want physical keyboards. Why do you reckon they sell Bluetooth keyboards for the iPad? Thus, removing the keyboard

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread John Panarese
ct: >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: >>>>>> Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 >>>>>> For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 >>>>>> >>>>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com <mailto:brandt

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
visionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen > specs, Control Strip, and how

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
t;>> <mailto:kc4...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I wouldn’t be at all surprised that the touchpad will take the place of >>>>>> the keyboard and there will be a software keyboard such as that on iOS >>>>>> devices. T

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Hell, I’ve paid a lot of money to get that way;) Hang in there buddy things like computers can really help folks with brain injuries. There’s a lot of research going on in that area because of our wounded vets as well. Won’t be long where they will be able to augment the broken segments. > O

RE: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it Hi Simon, In all the flurry of stuff I read yesterday, I recall seeing some reference to the

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
gt;> >>>>> I wouldn’t be at all surprised that the touchpad will take the place of >>>>> the keyboard and there will be a software keyboard such as that on iOS >>>>> devices. Thus the iOSification will be complete. >>>>> >>>

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com> >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> ----- Original Message - >>> From: Brandt Steenkamp <mailto:brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com <mailto:macvisionaries@

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Chris, >>>>> >>>>> The power button on the new touch bar is also a touch sensor such as on >>>>> the iPhone now, >>>>> >>>>> So it will read your finger prin

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Brandt Steenkamp To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:39 PM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro;

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
;> From: Brandt Steenkamp <mailto:brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups. >> com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voic

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
isionaries@googlegroups. com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:27 PM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Hmm, did I hear correctly or not, the touch bar is dynamic. In other words, it will do everything tha

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Hmm, did I hear correctly or not, the touch bar is dynamic. In other words, it will do everything that you just mentioned, with function keys, you have to remember, Like you did in the old days on a switchboard. The world is becoming a digital place. Computer manufacturers is only realizing thi

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
randt Steenkamp To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:13 PM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Hi there, The surface book, is supposed to be a laptop. The problem with i

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
acvisionaries@googlegroups. com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups. >> com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:02 AM >> Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over >> and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 >> >&g

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You wrote: Function keys gone being a bad thing? Answer me this, when was the last time you used function keys besides for Voiceover and the terminal? OK, let's see: a.. App chooser list b.. Window chooser list c.. What's in the Voiceover cursor, and where's it located on the screen d.

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
; Plus the new machines have a larger touch pad, will be interesting to see >>>> how that goes for us. >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@g

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Apple engineers are definitely not stupid. Question, why are apple computers steadily moving toward an iOS look and feel? The Touch bar is possibly evidence for my argument. We no longer have to press function keys.

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
6 11:02 AM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Okay, that is pushing things a bit far. Firstly, sited people still need and want physical keyboards. Why do you reckon they sell Bluetooth keyboards

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
day, October 29, 2016 9:48 AM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 I wouldn’t be at all surprised that the touchpad will take the place of the keyboard and there will be a software keyboard such as that

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
(704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:09 AM Subject: RE: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it Hi Mary,

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
er 2016 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 No worries Ray. I didn't even see it, as he's also on my block list. --- Christopher Gilland JA

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
06 AM Subject: RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Chris, The power button on the new touch bar is also a touch sensor such as on the iPhone now, So it will read your finger print as well as turn

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Randy Stegall
see >>> how that goes for us. >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >>> Gilland >>> Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 5:18 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googleg

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
visionaries@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >> Gilland >> Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 5:18 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisio

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Mary Otten
ies@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 9:39 AM > To: mac4thebl...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, > Contr

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-29 Thread Randy Stegall
; From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 5:18 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over > and the new Ma

RE: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it I thought some might be interested in this article with more details on the new Touch Bar. Mary New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 No worries Ray. I didn't even see it, as he's also on my block list. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com<mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com> Phone

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 5:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 What do you

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 I believe it was I who guessed at the touch ID tripple press. From the look of their answer to you, Scot, seems like what they actually went for was pressing the command key plus the tripple press of

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
essibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 And who had the touch ID triple press, you’re the winner. See the comments from Apple accessibility sent to me just 2 minutes ago. This sounds better and better and I have to compliment Apple in such a q

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread E.T.
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:45 AM *Subject:* Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Now now now. I ask you, ET. Was that really necessary. Yes, maybe

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:45 AM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 Now now now. I ask you, ET. Was that really necessary. Yes, maybe Chris should have known from descriptions of the new Mac book pro

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread E.T.
s sounds better and better and I have to compliment Apple in such a quick turn around on this question. Begin forwarded message: *From: *Apple Accessibility mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>> *Subject: **Re: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126* *Date:

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Ray Foret jr
mcast.net> >>*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>*Sent:* Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:00 AM >>*Subject:* Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: >>Voice over and the new MacB

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:42 AM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Ray Foret jr
t; From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:00 AM >> Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over >> a

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread E.T.
omcast.net> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:00 AM *Subject:* Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 I believe

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ssage - From: Ray Foret jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:00 AM Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 I believe it was I who guessed at the touch ID tripple press.

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Ray Foret jr
>> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Apple Accessibility > <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>> >> Subject: Re: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 >> Date: October 28, 2016 at 3:42:30 PM EDT >> To: scott.grana...@gmail.com <m

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Granados
s ago. >> >> This sounds better and better and I have to compliment Apple in such a quick >> turn around on this question. >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Apple Accessibility >> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.c

Re: Nice discount on the cheapest new MacBook Pro

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I'm not sure what happened there, maybe I cut part of the link off, didn't think so. Anyway, if you're interested, you know that Amazon has this discount on this new MacBook Pro. No idea how long it will last. But it certainly looks like a better price than what Apple is

Re: Nice discount on the cheapest new MacBook Pro

2016-10-28 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Says page not found > On Oct 28, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > For somebody who has an older MacBook Air and is thinking about perhaps > getting one of the new MacBook Pros but doesn't like the price, here's some > good news. Amazon has the one without the Touch Bar for a nice discoun

Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I like the sound of all that. > On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:38, Mary Otten wrote: > > I thought some might be interested in this article with more details on the > new Touch Bar. > Mary > New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control > Strip, and how

Nice discount on the cheapest new MacBook Pro

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
For somebody who has an older MacBook Air and is thinking about perhaps getting one of the new MacBook Pros but doesn't like the price, here's some good news. Amazon has the one without the Touch Bar for a nice discount. I copied this line out of an article, and I hope the fact that it is a link

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
>> From: Apple Accessibility > <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>> >> Subject: Re: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 >> Date: October 28, 2016 at 3:42:30 PM EDT >> To: scott.grana...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com> >> >

New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
I thought some might be interested in this article with more details on the new Touch Bar. Mary New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it 9to5Mac / Benjamin Mayo The flagship feature of the new MacBook Pro is the

From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Granados
om: Apple Accessibility > Subject: Re: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126 > Date: October 28, 2016 at 3:42:30 PM EDT > To: scott.grana...@gmail.com > > Hello, > > Thank you for your email. Touch Bar works with VoiceOver, Zoom and Switch > Control. For VoiceOve

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