There should be a way to translate through the API the function keys required in windows say and pass that through fusion to the Apple side. In other words, if a program sets up and requires custom keys in windows there should be a way to pass that through the hypervisor to the host. Does that make sense?
> On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > OK Scott, what am I missing here. You noted correctly that Apple has a very > robust API. But doesn't that only apply to Mac programs? If you're running > Linux or windows in a virtual machine, how is this API on the macside going > to help you? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 29, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com > <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Simon, remember that Apple has opened up the API for the touch bar so it >> should be accessible to all manor of programs. >> >> >>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> Good thoughts, >>> I could see the touch bar working with vm fusion but only because that is >>> the app in the OS window, what runs in the actuall VM will be a different >>> situation. >>> >>> >>> Simon f >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen >>> specs, Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it >>> >>> Hi Simon, >>> In all the flurry of stuff I read yesterday, I recall seeing some reference >>> to the fact that the Touch Bar will somehow, I don't remember how, be >>> supported with Boot Camp. What I find really interesting is virtual >>> machines. How on earth is that going to work? >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> Thanks for sending this out, >>> >>> It’s very interesting. >>> >>> I just had a thought though. >>> >>> For people such as myself who have bootcamp setup with windows 10 in my >>> case, >>> >>> How will the touch bar handle bootcamp running windows environments? >>> >>> I wonder if apple are going to produce drivers for windows bootcamp >>> installations? >>> I’m going to have to check on that before I buy a new device. >>> >>> >>> SF >>> >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 9:39 AM >>> To: mac4thebl...@freelists.org <mailto:mac4thebl...@freelists.org>; >>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, >>> Control Strip, and how third party apps can use it >>> >>> I thought some might be interested in this article with more details on the >>> new Touch Bar. >>> Mary >>> New MacBook Pro Touch Bar details: UI interactions, screen specs, Control >>> Strip, and how third party apps can use it >>> 9to5Mac / Benjamin Mayo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/> >>> The flagship feature of the new MacBook Pro is the Touch Bar, an OLED >>> display strip that replaces the physical row of function keys. This adds a >>> dynamic zone to top of the keyboard where apps can display custom buttons, >>> sliders, switches and scrubbers to enhance the MacBook experience while >>> adding a new way to interact with Mac applications beyond text input and >>> mouse pointers. >>> >>> How does the Touch Bar interface work? What is the resolution of the Touch >>> Bar? What is the Control Strip? What can third-party developers do with the >>> Touch Bar? Read on for all the answers and more … >>> >>> First things first, the Touch Bar is exclusive to the higher-end 13-inch >>> and 15-inch MacBook Pro models. If you want the Touch Bar, you must have a >>> new MacBook Pro. >>> >>> And right now, those models are on one-month backorder so this requires a >>> bit of imagination. Assuming you unwrap a MacBook Pro for the first time, >>> how exactly does the Touch Bar interface work in practice? >>> >>> General Interface and Control Strip >>> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/touch_bar_2x/> >>> The Touch Bar offers quick access to functions provided by applications and >>> by the system. The main interface is split into three distinct sections: >>> the area for app controls, the Control Strip and a system button. The >>> system button is controlled by macOS Sierra and displays a Cancel, Done or >>> virtual ‘esc’ key where necessary. It may be the death of the physical esc >>> key but the operating system guarantees that a virtual button will always >>> be available. >>> >>> In the middle is the ‘app region’ which is controlled by the currently >>> active app (the one whose name is displayed on the menu bar). If you are on >>> the desktop, this is just going to be a blank space. When you click into an >>> app or select a file, it will light up with contextual buttons and actions. >>> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/screen-shot-2016-10-28-at-15-58-04/> >>> What about the media keys and brightness controls? These are contained >>> within the Control Strip. This is another element controlled by the system >>> and it is a persistent tray on the right hand side with buttons to access >>> sliders for brightness and volume, mute and Siri. This tray is expandable >>> (or collapsible) so you can dedicate more screen real estate of the Touch >>> Bar to app content if you want to. If you hold down the function key, the >>> Touch Bar transforms into a virtual set of normal function keys. This >>> behavior is configurable in the preferences. >>> >>> Touch Bar Tech Specs >>> >>> The Touch Bar is a 10-point multitouch touch screen located above the >>> keyboard, replacing the function keys on existing Mac keyboards. It’s also >>> the same approximate physical size as the row of keys it replaces, a skinny >>> height rectangle spanning the full width of the keyboard. In technical >>> terms, the display is 2170×60 pixels. Details on what drives the Touch Bar >>> are not entirely clear but Apple says it has a custom T1 chip to power the >>> Touch ID and Apple Pay features (it seems like the T1 is actually a mini >>> Apple Watch SoC >>> <https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/791875680678080513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>.) >>> >>> The Touch Bar is a @2x Retina display, which makes an effective screen >>> resolution of 1085 x 30 points for content display. Essentially, there is >>> no meaningful concept of a Y-axis when interacting with display — controls >>> always take up the full height. The display also supports a P3 wide color >>> space, just like the primary MacBook Pro display and the new iPhone 7. This >>> means apps can make buttons appear on the Touch Bar with strikingly vibrant >>> and saturated colors. >>> >>> Developer API >>> >>> The Touch Bar is supported by a comprehensive API for third-party >>> developers to add rich controls and interface elements for their apps, in >>> the same way Apple has done for its own stock apps like Safari and Mail. >>> Typically, initial iterations of third-party developer integration from >>> Apple are limited and simplified, and then slowly expand in capability with >>> future versions. The Touch Bar API is not that, its first version features >>> a very detailed, customizable and intricate set of APIs. >>> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/macbook-touch-buttons/> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/screen-shot-2016-10-28-at-15-35-25/> >>> Developers have full control over what buttons and views they want to show >>> and how the buttons are displayed. Apple includes a handful of template >>> controls for consistency between apps but the API enables developers to >>> create truly-unique controls for their individual needs as well. The main >>> constraint is that the Touch Bar is very skinny and UI can only be shown in >>> a single horizontal row (side scrolling is possible). >>> >>> Developers can display pretty much whatever they want whilst their app is >>> in the foreground; this includes swapping out views and buttons depending >>> on the current window of their app (a compose window necessitates different >>> Touch Bar accessory views than the inbox window). However, the Touch Bar >>> does not allow persistent widgets, status items or similar features like >>> always-visible news tickers. These constraints are unlikely to be lifted >>> either; Apple is imposing the restriction so that the UI under the user’s >>> finger isn’t constantly changing due to spurious notifications or text >>> messages. >>> >>> Apple wants the bar to display peaceful relatively-static UI based on the >>> current task. Major changes to the Bar should only happen when the >>> application state drastically changes, such as opening a new tab or >>> beginning a new modal activity. To repeat: once an app’s window is not >>> active, it loses its control to influence what is shown on the Bar. The >>> system Control Strip sits to the right in a collapsed state by default, but >>> can be disabled entirely in System Preferences if desired. >>> >>> The API also allows developers to make more controls than they might want >>> to show at any one time, enabling users to customise their toolbar layouts >>> with options and commands that are most interesting and relevant to them. >>> >>> Touch Bar Controls >>> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/macbook-touch-buttons/> >>> Apple allows apps to make custom views to display unique content but it >>> provides a rich set of base elements too. Here’s a look at the Apple stock >>> controls, to give an idea about what kind of interactions are possible. >>> There are buttons, toggles, multi-option collapsible pickers, segmented >>> controls and sliders. >>> >>> There is also the concept of popovers which temporarily swap out the >>> toolbar with a modal view. For instance, the emoji picker is a character >>> viewer modal view — a scrolling list of emoji symbols. Apple also has a >>> color picker modal to select colors from a rainbow spectrum strip. >>> >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-details-ui-interactions-screen-specs-control-strip-and-how-third-party-apps-can-use-it/jslg3ok/> >>> Combining all of these elements together creates the rich interactions. >>> Marc Edwards produced a nice image >>> <https://twitter.com/marcedwards/status/791863873318117376> showing a >>> plethora of Touch Bar states for apps that Apple showed in the keynote >>> itself, showing how all the controls come together to customize the >>> experience for every app. Microsoft also showed some good examples >>> <https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/microsoft-announces-office-support-for-new-macbook-pro-heres-how-word-powerpoint-and-excel-look-on-the-touch-bar/> >>> of using the Touch Bar with the Office suite, where the buttons naturally >>> gel with Office iconography and tools. >>> >>> Design Guidelines >>> >>> Although Apple cannot enforce Mac apps outside of the App Store to comply >>> with any guidelines, it is providing documentation to encourage good >>> practice and consistent experiences. The design documentation is >>> comprehensive and can be read in full here if you are interested. In >>> summary, the Touch Bar should feel as responsive as an iPhone to the touch >>> and blend in with the rest of the keyboard as much as possible. The OLED >>> display provides incredibly high contrast to make the black backgrounds of >>> the bar mirror the black physical keys. >>> >>> The display supports wide color but Apple is generally discouraging the use >>> of bright colors and imagery apart from where it is essential … although >>> Apple isn’t exactly leading by example here with the Siri button. >>> >>> I wish Apple would stop insisting the Siri icon on the Mac has to be >>> full-colour when all the icons around it are monochrome glyphs. >>> pic.twitter.com/SXraaXM4B1 <https://t.co/SXraaXM4B1> >>> — Benjamin Mayo (@bzamayo) October 28, 2016 >>> <https://twitter.com/bzamayo/status/791966271713660931> >>> Another interesting point is that the Touch Bar should not be the only >>> place to be able to perform a feature of an app. In fact, developers don’t >>> get to know if the Touch Bar is present or in use at all. What this means >>> is that the Mac app toolbars and controls visible on the primary display >>> will not change in the presence of the toolbar. >>> >>> The reason behind this decision is the simple fact that the Touch Bar is >>> not available on most Macs or external keyboards so it can’t be a mandatory >>> part of the experience. Apple is positioning the Touch Bar as an additive >>> improvement, a bit like 3D Touch Peek & Pop on the iPhone. >>> >>> In the same way, Apple is discouraging duplication of functionality where >>> possible; they don’t want developers to show things just for the sake of >>> it. The guidelines also say to avoid showing ‘well-known’ keyboard >>> shortcuts like cut/copy/paste as it’s assumed everyone will still want to >>> do basic shortcuts like that ‘the old way’ using Cmd+X, Cmd+C, and Cmd+V. >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> In summary, Apple has introduced a very powerful Touch Bar in its first >>> iteration with comprehensive developer integration for the >>> currently-focused app. >>> >>> The Touch Bar is really interesting but time will tell if it becomes an >>> essential part of the Mac, so much that you would miss it if it wasn’t >>> there. Customers will start getting their hands on the MacBook Pro with >>> Touch Bar in the next couple of weeks, as the products are already >>> backordered around the world. What do you think of Apple’s latest interface >>> innovation? Let us know your impressions of the Touch Bar in the comments >>> below. >>> >>> Guides >>> >>> MacBook >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/guides/macbook/> >>> View THe Guide <https://9to5mac.com/guides/macbook/> >>> MacBook Pro >>> >>> <https://9to5mac.com/guides/macbook-pro/> >>> Apple's high-performance laptop line was introduced in 2006 and was the >>> first laptop of Apple's lineup to have an Intel chip. 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