Re: new mail sound on the mac

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I haven’t looked in iTunes on the Mac yet as I couldn’t remember seeing anything in there regarding ringtones or alert tones. It is the sound effect on the mail app on the Mac that I wanted to change Sent from Petrus's iPhone > On 3/09/2019, at 17:15, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Can you find i

RE: A Strange Speaker Sound Scenario with Mark's Apple Watch, Series 4, with LTE

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Mark, Had a similar situation with my series 2 watch after swimming in a pool. But mine lasted 3 days before correcting itself. I ended up not getting it replaced and sticking with the original. Weird I know, but hey what do you do. As for more of a concern, Why did the apple genius bar

RE: new mail sound on the mac

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Can you find it under itunes on your notebook? Or is it on your phones mail app you wish to change the tone? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 5:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mail sound on the mac I g

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Gents, I just ran that speed test on a wired machine and got a Ping of 22milli seconds, Download:192.57 Megabits Upload: 171.32 megabits So as showing wired is faster than a wifi test But alsoalso the wifi router and type of connection makes a big difference also. From: macvisionaries@googleg

Re: new mail sound on the mac

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I got it through the iTunes store. Sent from Petrus's iPhone > On 3/09/2019, at 15:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Petrus, > > If the tone is on your phone, > Where did you get it from or is it a default tone on the phone? > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Petrus

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Yes, I was a bit unsure on that one too. > On 3/09/2019, at 3:40 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Simon and Tim, and Petrus, > I’m still not sure what the units are for this speed test. Since they only > give the numbers, but no mention of whether they are megabits or megabytes. > > Dave Carlson >

A Strange Speaker Sound Scenario with Mark's Apple Watch, Series 4, with LTE

2019-09-02 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All, As the following makes absolutely no sense to me or any of the Apple Techs with whom I discussed this matter, I will simply list what happened earlier today: 1. With Apple Watch powered off, ran tiny stream of water over device to clean. At the same time, a visiting friend, with an ide

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Dave, I used chrome and in the line prior to the speed record is a line that tells you what the upload / download on that same line is an mb/ ps So it is there. My ping speed is what I’d expect a snail to have when running backwards on ice. 26 milli seconds. From: macvisionaries@googlegroup

RE: Speed test website

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Well that’s a shock to the system, I go back on what I said to you Dave and Petrus, Tim I’m guessing it’s a problem with nz’s fibre seeing my download is 72.000 And upload is 86.32 And after checking a couple of times to be sure, That is Mega bits. I pay for speeds that should be 10 times fas

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
>From one of his last emails, I think it is dyslexia No he hit the wrong key on the keyboard but really has a speed similar to yourself From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 3:10 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Speed Test

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey Petrus, Don’t sit on the fibre box, They don’t like it when we sit or stand on them. You wanna buy half a fritz box? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 1:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double-Tapping

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Simon and Tim, and Petrus, I’m still not sure what the units are for this speed test. Since they only give the numbers, but no mention of whether they are megabits or megabytes. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is import

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus and Tim, That is why WiFi speed testing is not a recommendation but using wired can be a difference if you have that ability. Petrus Any chance you have a wired adapter for your notebook. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 12:12 PM To: macvisionari

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Oh and there is a speed test app for the iPhone which I find fery useable -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 12:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail? i f

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, I'm assuming that is bytes rather than bits? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 12:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail? i finally got it to work

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Tim, Hell that’s a big difference. Now if we divide that by 8 we get a number closer to that of what dave is getting. I’m still dreaming of that speed in megabytes though, That would be so fast when downloading. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:50

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, Could you flick me the url to this speed site, I’ll check it from here and see if I get the same result, Possibly as Tim said it’s a site restricted to us in NZ. Cheers, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:28 AM To

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I know your not dumb, Although confused I’ll take your word for it, Although you do live in Auckland which is built on how many volcanoes again? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sub

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Yeah, just what does Tim have that we don’t? 100T? F/O? Maybe I need to complain to my cable provider to see what they can offer. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list

RE: new mail sound on the mac

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, If the tone is on your phone, Where did you get it from or is it a default tone on the phone? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mail sound on the mac Thank

RE: sending mail to group

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I'm definitely getting it here. -Original Message- From: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:11 AM To: Email Groups Subject: sending mail to group Hi, Testing mail. This is my 4th time trying to send mail to Mac Visionaries. -- The following informatio

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Dave, That sounds very much like megabytes to me. The download speed is the one that really matters unless your uploading a lot of data to other sites. But that would be similar to what I’m getting here in NZ, But yes much slower than Tim is getting in Canada From: macvisionaries@googlegro

Re: New Mac User

2019-09-02 Thread d.prater via MacVisionaries
I've used a Mac for a good 7 or more years. Int time, I've used Windows, the Mac, and several forms of Linux. The Mac, nor VoiceOver, is perfect, but for me, especially for reading Mail, writing documents, or even dabbling in code, the Mac is great for beginners, and advan

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Yes, well I am in the dining room at the other end of the house and it is in the middle of the day. I could try it again in the middle of the night sitting right on top of the fibre box. But it’s good enough for me. > On 3/09/2019, at 12:12 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Jealous. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropr

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Excellent ping time, and if you're on fibre like Simon mentioned, that's not particularly quick, but really not that bad for most uses. Where you are in your house, where you are in relation to the WiFi transmitter and other devices that could be interfering with the signal are all factors

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
i finally got it to work and this is what I got. Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 84.66, Your upload speed is 17.73, and your ping time took 5 milliseconds. Thank you for using Ookla Speedtest -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Simon, Oops, sorry. Should have used proper abbreviations. Yeah, 268 Mbps this evening. Bytes would be better, of course. This is on a WiFi connection. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 20

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, If this is on a Mac, don't worry about where to type anything, just type the word "start". Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 2019, at 17:28, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Well that didn’t work ei

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Well that didn’t work either, I opened the site, pressed VO I for the item chooser and couldn’t find anywhere to type start. It said something about 19 items. I am definitely opening the link you sent. > On 3/09/2019, at 11:04 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > How ab

Re: sending mail to group

2019-09-02 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
OK Thanks, For a while my mail was returned as if I was not a member. It seems to be fixed now. > On Sep 2, 2019, at 7:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Got it. Also got the one a few minutes ago regarding Mail sounds. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Tea

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Ha ha, I didn’t think you liked the Touch Bar? And I don’t think I’m dum, just a little dazed and confused. I might need a coffee as I can’t work out why I can’t find the start button on the speed test. I’ll go try Tims Item chooser idea in a minute. > On 3/09/2019, at 10:45 AM, Simon A Fogart

Re: new mail sound on the mac

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks Robert, I still think it sounds too hard. I don’t even know how to copy the sound from my iPhone so I can paste it? I am ready for a few more coffees this morning. > On 3/09/2019, at 11:06 AM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Dear Petrus, > I am sorry for scaring you. > It

Re: sending mail to group

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Got it. Also got the one a few minutes ago regarding Mail sounds. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 2019, at 17:11, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, Testing mail. This is my 4th

sending mail to group

2019-09-02 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Testing mail. This is my 4th time trying to send mail to Mac Visionaries. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, pleas

new mail sound on the mac

2019-09-02 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
Dear Petrus, I am sorry for scaring you. It seems that you can change the mail sounds easily. Its only the empty trash and move to trash sounds that makes you jump through hoops. Again, I am sorry for the confusion. So try this, I just did it . I pasted in a new .aiff file and it worked. I also t

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, How about using the Item Chooser instead. Once you've opened the linked page, press VO-i to bring up the Item Chooser, type the word "start", then press return. That should land you on the Start button. The only reasons I can think why it's not working for you is if that site is not avai

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Simon, here’s what I copied: Your speed test has completed. Your download speed is 48.63, Your upload speed is 3.08, and your ping time took 13 milliseconds. Thank you for using Ookla Speedtest. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following inf

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Dave, 3 Mb as you reported is quite slow, Possibly you did get it mistaken Or Tim confused bytes for bits vise versa. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 10:45 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Speed Test Results - Wa

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey Petrus, I’ll flick you my address off list and you can send it to me, Shipping within nz is cheaper than giving it to someone else. And don’t tell your wife, Sdhe already has a notebook if I remember. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 Sep

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Simon, I’m not sure if I reported the appendix correctly. I’ll have to go back and do an actual copy and paste. Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I haven’t got the correct cables to do that and I can’t even work out how to start the speed test anyway regardless of weather I’m on a cable or wifi. > On 3/09/2019, at 10:33 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Petrus, > > If possible try the speed test using a wired connection rather than a

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Tim, For Petrus and I We’re both on fibre connections mine is meant to be download of up to 1 Gb but that’s top speed,I’m lucky if I get half that on a good day. Petrus I’m not sure of his speeds but would be getting upwards of similar to mine, The difference simply due to location and a pl

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, If possible try the speed test using a wired connection rather than a wifi connection It can be different. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:52 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Speed Test Results

RE: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi dave, Tim gave his speed in megabytes and you have given yours in mega bits, So there does seem like a big differences but if you work out your speed in megabytes it will be higher From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 6:23 AM To: '

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi Tim, Maybe I don’t deserve a Mac as I’m obviously too dum to use one. I opened the link and VO right but could not find a button or anything that would clearly ask me to start the speed test. Either on the Mac or the iPhone. How many times did you have to VO right until you found the start bu

RE: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Tim, Really your getting megabytes downloads? Hell I’m meant to have gigabit speed but very rarely see anything higher than 60MB down. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 1:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, It kind of depends on a number of factors. If doing this on an iOS device, it may display slower results. On a Mac, it depends on whether your ISP is a cable provider or ADSL or something more like fibre. I suggest you run it two or three times to see if the results differ. Later... T

Re: Sound effects in the mail app

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I’m hoping it will become simpler again when the new OS comes out soon I’ll go check out that podcast as well. Thanks, Petrus > On 3/09/2019, at 8:09 AM, KliphnShari Miller wrote: > > It use to be as simple as just pasting the sounds in the root of the Mac, and > they would show up, they sinc

Re: Sound effects in the mail app

2019-09-02 Thread KliphnShari Miller
It use to be as simple as just pasting the sounds in the root of the Mac, and they would show up, they since changed that. And like you it’s not that serious, will just leave well enough alone. Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and i

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all, Maybe I should explain myself. I think I got lost after I opened the link as I was still in bed on a Sunday morning and I was using the iPhone. I will try it again on the Mac today. Petrus > On 3/09/2019, at 6:23 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Bill, > I ran it also. My upload is only 3

Re: Sound effects in the mail app

2019-09-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi Anders, It’s okay, I decided not to change the sounds on my Mac in the mail app, aside from the ones that are already available. I was hoping it would be easy to install the sounds on my Mac that I purchased through the iTunes Store on my iPhone so I could use them. It doesn’t look like it is

Re: Blindly work with Xcode

2019-09-02 Thread Tibor Niesner
I use to Xcode 11 beta 7. Tibor Niesner > 2. 9. 2019 v 20:31, Barry Hadder : > > Tibor, > > What version of Xcode are you using? You can get the Xcode beta with a free > account. You might want to consider using SwiftUI instead of interface > builder. The only problem being is that it is st

Re: Blindly work with Xcode

2019-09-02 Thread Tibor Niesner
Hello, No, I don't know how to do it. Is it possible to do something like that in a classic Swift? Please tell me privately the procedure. Thank you very much. Tibor Niesner > 2. 9. 2019 v 20:31, Barry Hadder : > > Tibor, > > What version of Xcode are you using? You can get the Xcode beta wi

Re: Blindly work with Xcode

2019-09-02 Thread Barry Hadder
Tibor, What version of Xcode are you using? You can get the Xcode beta with a free account. You might want to consider using SwiftUI instead of interface builder. The only problem being is that it is still very young. Let’s take one thing at a time. In interface builder, you can imbed a v

Re: Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Bill, I ran it also. My upload is only 3 Mbps and download 43 Mbps. Pretty pathetic, compared to Tim. But we don’t pay for any upgrades on our cable, so that may be typical. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important

Log in user questions

2019-09-02 Thread Marie
I am using a loner at the moment but know it would be advantageous to be signed in to my Apple user, so a couple of questions. Will the settings I have already made here transfer to the new user login or, are they tied to the User? If I make the switch to my Apple ID, is it as easy to reset to fa

Speed Test Results - Was: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries
OK, I ran the speed test and the results appear to be significantly slower than what I am supposedly paying for from my ISP. Is this a normal characteristic or am I being overcharged for service? - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse ge

Re: Sound effects in the mail app

2019-09-02 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi Petrus! Where are you lost? Maybe if we can help you out things can be easily done. /A > 2 sep. 2019 kl. 04:54 skrev Petrus Tuerlings : > > Hi Robert, > I was with you as far as “try adding your new email sound” and then I was > totally lost. Sorry, but I’ll think I’ll leave it as it is. > Th

Re: Copying text from a web site

2019-09-02 Thread Barry Hadder
Well I need to correct myself again. ‘@‘ does mean command, but you don’t want to use that. Use control-space to set a mark. The first definition shouldn’t be there. > On Sep 2, 2019, at 08:47, Barry Hadder wrote: > > Hi, > “^\@“ means control-space. In other words \@ is a code for the spac

Re: Copying text from a web site

2019-09-02 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi, “^\@“ means control-space. In other words \@ is a code for the space character. FOR SOME REASON, IT IS DEFINED TWICE. You have to press control-x twice to select the text from the mark. Once again, I can confirm that it does work. Yank and select is a functionality from the emacs text editor w

Re: Double-Tapping to Send Mail?

2019-09-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hmmm. I just tried it for fun. VO-space on the link I provided. In the HTML/Web area, VO-right to find the "Start Speed Test" button and VO-space on it, VO should announce "Download Test has started". It will announce another time when the download test is about 50% done then the same for th

Re: Copying text from a web site

2019-09-02 Thread Leo
These are the keystrokes as they have been defined in the dict file: control plus Y, yank and select. control plus backslash plus command, set mark. control plus w, delete the mark. control plus x, select the mark. control plus space, set mark Apparently, there are two keystrokes that perfo