Well I need to correct myself again. ‘@‘ does mean command, but you don’t want to use that. Use control-space to set a mark. The first definition shouldn’t be there.
> On Sep 2, 2019, at 08:47, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > “^\@“ means control-space. In other words \@ is a code for the space > character. > FOR SOME REASON, IT IS DEFINED TWICE. > You have to press control-x twice to select the text from the mark. > Once again, I can confirm that it does work. > Yank and select is a functionality from the emacs text editor where you can > use something called the kill ring. It basically gives you the ability to > cut multiple text to a clip board and recall specific items at will. >> On Sep 2, 2019, at 05:35, Leo <leobado1...@gmail.com >> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> These are the keystrokes as they have been defined in the dict file: >> >> control plus Y, yank and select. >> >> control plus backslash plus command, set mark. >> >> control plus w, delete the mark. >> >> control plus x, select the mark. >> >> control plus space, set mark >> >> >> >> Apparently, there are two keystrokes that perform the same action, and >> I don't know why; however, only the first one works for me when selecting a >> portion of the text. >> >> In my mac, pressing control plus space does not perform anything unless >> after this combination, I press control plus w, and what it does is to >> delete all the text above the mark. >> >> In addition, I don't know what yank and select means nor do I know what it >> performs. >> >> Finally, this is how I succeeded in placing a mark and selecting all the >> text from that point to the current position of the voice over cursor. >> >> First, go to the specific point in the text where you can place the mark, >> and press control plus command plus backslash. (voice over does not announce >> anything) >> >> Second, go through the text until the second point, and press control plus >> x plus x. (voice over announces the selection and start reading the selected >> text) >> >> >> >> As a final comment, this only works for me in pages or textedit, but it >> doesn't work in web pages; however, >> >> something is something and I find it particularly useful, so I would like to >> thank Anne for the feedback. >> >> >> >> Best, >> Leo. >> On 9/1/2019 11:25 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> Well, I have to correct myself. >>> Anne was correct in that the keystroke in the DefaultKeyBinding.dict file >>> to place a mark is control-space. I have just tried it and I can confirm >>> that it still works. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2019, at 23:37, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> First, you need to create a folder in your Library folder called >>>> KeyBindings if you don’t already have one. >>>> >>>> Second, the key stroke to set a mark is actually control-@ as defined in >>>> the dict file. Note however that you can change it to whatever you would >>>> prefer. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I also want to note that the keystroke vo-enter that Jonathan mentioned is >>>> correct. However it seems to be dead in the current version of Mojave. >>>> It is working in Catalina developer beta 6 however. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 2:06:34 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote: >>>> Hello Anne, >>>> >>>> First of all, Thank you very much for your help, this seems to be a >>>> wonderful solution; however, for some reason that I still cannot >>>> understand, it didn't work for me. I followed your instructions and pasted >>>> the resulting folder inside the library folder of my user, but still, the >>>> keystrokes don't respond, and I have even tried this in combination with >>>> the function key with no luck. Besides, I've been doing some research on >>>> Google, but I can't find anything that could lead me to respond why the >>>> keystrokes are not responding. >>>> >>>> I'm on Mojave latest update. Would anyone know why this happens? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Leo. >>>> On 9/1/2019 6:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>> Hello Leo, >>>>> >>>>> You can select text between two markers in any text document on the Mac >>>>> if you do the following: >>>>> Click on this link to download Keybindings.zip >>>>> <http://cecimac.net/KeyBindings.zip <http://cecimac.net/KeyBindings.zip>> >>>>> >>>>> In your Downloads folder, open the Keybindings.zip with Cmd-o. >>>>> Paste the resulting folder into your user library folder. >>>>> You should now be able to mark the start of your selection with >>>>> Ctrl-Space, navigate to the place you wish to end your selection and >>>>> press Ctrl-x-x. The text in between wil be selected. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Sep 2019, at 12:03, Leo <leoba...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> well if you red the question that started this thread, you'll notice >>>>>> that basically your question and my question are the same. Though I >>>>>> wanted to copy text from a web page, you want to copy from a text >>>>>> editor; in addition, as far as we've been told, there is no way to place >>>>>> two marks in a text and automatically select the text between them. >>>>>> Since this is the basic concept behind the function that we are looking >>>>>> for, this probably cannot be done on Mac, neither on a text editor nor >>>>>> on a web page. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Leo. >>>>>> On 8/31/2019 11:51 PM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Leo, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the clarification. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What should I do if I need to select long passages after placing a >>>>>>> selection beginning mark. On the windows front, I tend to keep reading >>>>>>> until a spot where I need to end selection. Is there a way to place >>>>>>> sweet spots and make a text selection between them? I will be grateful >>>>>>> for an answer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>> Hem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <javascript:> On Behalf Of Leo >>>>>>> Sent: 31 August 2019 16:06 >>>>>>> To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Copying text from a web site >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, I'm not Jonathan, but the answer to your question is yes, it works. >>>>>>> Just make sure after pressing vo-return, not to stop pressing vo, then >>>>>>> you can errow to select as much as you want. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Leo. >>>>>>> On 8/30/2019 10:55 PM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote: >>>>>>> Dear Jonathan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does this selection technique work in text environment such as Pages? >>>>>>> Kindly let me know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <javascript:> On Behalf Of Jonathan >>>>>>> Cohn >>>>>>> Sent: 31 August 2019 06:46 >>>>>>> To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Copying text from a web site >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can sorta do this if the text is in a block, but if there is >>>>>>> graphics or tables or even perhaps font changes I find the below method >>>>>>> does not work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Go to starting text and interact until it says interacting with text. >>>>>>> 2. Press VO-return. VO says start selecting. >>>>>>> 3. Move to where you want to end the selection while moving VO will >>>>>>> make a dragging type of sound. and press vo-return again. VO should >>>>>>> say stop selecting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now perform what ever actions you need on the selection. The good thing >>>>>>> about this, is if you somehow break the selection, the sound will stop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan Cohn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Leo <leoba...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> I wonder whether what I want to do on my mac can be done or not. >>>>>>> Working in windows with jaws, I can copy text from a web page following >>>>>>> these steps: >>>>>>> First, I define a marker, which would be the initial point, and then I >>>>>>> go through the text body just until the point where I want to drag the >>>>>>> selection, and >>>>>>> I press a keystroke which performs the action described as select the >>>>>>> text between mark place and current position of the cursor." >>>>>>> Can this be done somehow with voice over? >>>>>>> If someone had information about it, it would be great! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Leo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather >>>>>>> than posting on the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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