2009/4/2 Paul A. Rubin
> Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>
>> More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then
>> information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed
>> to
>> your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish.
>>
>>
> Not necessarily. I'm sub
Rich Shepard wrote:
More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then
information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to
your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish.
Not necessarily. I'm subscribed to a few forums via RSS. Posts are
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
I did the proposed edits to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. Please view
and comment.
Looks good, thanks.
Christian
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote:
With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort,
whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he
deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period.
Yup. Alping (formerly pine), mutt, and elm all do
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> >
> > > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
> > > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter i
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current
> one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant
> stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts
> when it's no
the list is
described on the lyx website, or so I hope. Or figure things out and
become a forum-based expert yourself.
There's a LyX forum in "LaTeX community" but it's not as active as this
discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something
for this
On 2009-03-31, Christian Ridderström wrote:
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> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
>> I agree that a side-bar link saying "Mailing Lists / Forum" can rais
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 06:14:54 am Manveru wrote:
> 2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris :
> > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> >> > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
> >> > ML-threads as SOL
searcher in my Faculty uses the internet in order to look
for information, no matter his age, he uses it in the same way of a 15 years
old boy, *** because they started using it at the same moment. And I guess we
can't call him a "neostrada child".
Arguments that claims forum is not
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
I agree that a side-bar link saying "Mailing Lists / Forum" can raise
expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists.
IMO, this page should contain a section
I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter off-lis
2009/3/30 Paul A. Rubin :
[...]
> One advantage that I think a forum might have over the current list/group
> structure is that on most forums (at least the forums I visit), I can scroll
> down a thread and see all the message text in one gulp. With a long thread,
> such as this one, I need to acc
2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris :
> On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
>>
>> > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
>> > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
>> > drawba
Alternately, if you prefer a forum-like web-based interface to the
users' list, check us out on our `Nabble page
<http://www.nabble.com/LyX---Users-f28347.html>`_ [nabble.com].
so this seems possible (it did not work for me, endless loading and no
content shown).
> There'
Nikos Alexandris writes:
> Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
> the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
> place as it should be.
Smart mail readers do not use the subject only to see threads.
JMarc
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
>
> > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
> > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
> > drawback.
>
> When I ask a question and
On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
> ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
> drawback.
When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure one out, I
reply one mor
Just my view upon this:
I find mailing lists (ML) very convenient and I don't follow forums in
general except of the "ubuntuforums.org". But MLs have several
drawbacks.
One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current
one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to pos
FWIW ...
I subscribe to both lists and forums, although I prefer to view lists as
newsgroups where that's an option (such as this list, which I access via
the GMANE group). A forum that supplies RSS feeds is not too different
in many respects from a newsgroup.
One advantage that I think a f
Piero Faustini wrote:
>
> How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20
> forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)?
Fairness doesn't enter into it. Either you have data, or you don't.
> It's not me who says lists are
> difficoult, it's people. I never used lists befo
2009/3/30 Piero Faustini
> >
>
> Hello once again.
>
> I can't reply to all.
> [...]
Of course about children, I was pointing out that forums are VERY simple.
> And
> it's exactly what I was trying to explain: the list concept is VERY old
> (whatever this means). Yes, also e-mail is old, and alm
; in my mailbox).
> A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we
> use a normal forum site?
> There's a LyX forum in "LaTeX community" but it's not as active as this
> discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users
>
Hello once again.
I can't reply to all.
I can read with my eyes not even one of you agreed with any of my arguments
(not speaking of the thesis). I only want to point out that many counter-
arguments where correct but quite off-topic, many where correct but weak, the
most strong ones were bas
Rich Shepard wrote:
> Usenet used to be OK. Now, unfortunately, it's jammed with spam and
> folks
> with attitudes. Mail lists tend to be more polite and helpful.
Amen to that.
And the LyX list is extraordinarily polite, helpful, relevant, and
knowledgable.
I have used several lists related to L
Rich Shepard wrote:
Books for adults (well, most adults who don't read comic books,
anyway) don't have all the enhancements of a GUI; neither do newspapers.
Which, I'm sad to say, may explain why newspapers all around the US are
shutting their doors. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the several
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote:
It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used
lists before knowing LyX.
Other people used mailing lists before web forums had been in use.
First there was ARPANET (text based), then BitNet (text based), then
Usenet (text bas
; in my mailbox).
> A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we
> use a normal forum site?
> There's a LyX forum in "LaTeX community" but it's not as active as this
> discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:34:14PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> [...] Seriously though, why is a "forum" different from a list?
The problem seems to be that he uses a web interface to read a mails.
Of course, with such a background, a well-organized forum _is_ an
advantage. Like using a b
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +, Piero Faustini wrote:
> Uwe Stöhr writes:
> > Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the
> > emails as described here:
> > http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at
> > various websites.
>
> How many people use m
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote:
Seriously though, why is a "forum" different from a list?
/Christian,
Two differences, as far as I know:
1.) Fora are hosted on a web site and mail lists are hosted on a server
that needs no more than a mailing list manager (MLM). The for
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
(I started supporting LyX with its mailing list btw. and I cannot think
right now that anything else might be easier. And I'm 29, so not too old
not to know the possibilities of forums ;-) )
I'm 35, so I don't see the advantages with forums... or lists fo
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Piero Faustini wrote:
else. What I lack most of LyX (and LaTeX)? Web-based environments,
web-based bibliographies, web-based computing.. ok, we can't have
EVERYTHING, but the various Google-Whatever are the best creatures of
the net and this is the future, we all know it.
Piero Faustini schrieb:
How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20
forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)?
Well take a company of your choice - the workers there will use mailing lists. Every working group I
know has its own mail group. So whenever you send a
Stefano Franchi writes:
> Like Uwe, I am not quite sure I understand what's so difficult about lists.
That
> is, unless you are used to reading mail in a browser and never used a mail
> client.
Of course I use a webclient (M$Hotmail, the worst ever, but who cares?) and
everything ends up a m
2009/3/29 Piero Faustini
> [...]
> Integrate doesn't mean computer-pro. Sometimes it's opposite to pro.
> Children use forums. They always had, because they are very, VERY simple.
> Lists
> are not that simple, comparing to forums (unless you care about cookies,
> which
> 99% of people don't). Ev
Stefano Franchi schrieb:
The issue though, is that the great support Lyx provides is (mostly) in the
hands of a relatively small group of people who very generously share their
time and expertise---Uwe himself being perhaps the most active member of this
group. What they prefer is the law of l
On Sunday 29 March 2009 11:56:18 Piero Faustini wrote:
> Uwe Stöhr writes:
> > Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails
> > as
>
> described here:
> > http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
> > The whole list is archived at various websites.
>
> How many people use mailing
Uwe Stöhr writes:
> Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as
described here:
> http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
> The whole list is archived at various websites.
>
How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20
forumers? Say 1 t
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Piero Faustini wrote:
I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum.
I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users
(I use GMANE for writing/browsing but I still receive daily updates in my
mailbox).
You can disable the daily
Piero Faustini schrieb:
I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum.
I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users
Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as
described here:
http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
The
... why don't we use
a normal forum site?
There's a LyX forum in "LaTeX community" but it's not as active as this
discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something
for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn'
Ray Reeves schrieb:
Since they moved the forum I can no longer login or change my profile.
Do you have enough influence to have them delete the account under this
email address entirely, so I can re-register
What are you talking about? We don't have a forum and you don't need to log in to rea
roland schmitz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i was looking for a lyx forum, but i haven't found one. I'm a member of a
> few other mailing list too, but often i can't help, but my mailbox is
> growing biger and biger.
> A solution for me could be "subscribe to the ma
Hi,
i was looking for a lyx forum, but i haven't found one. I'm a member of a
few other mailing list too, but often i can't help, but my mailbox is growing
biger and biger.
A solution for me could be "subscribe to the mailing list", "post a
question", "get
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