Uwe Stöhr <uwesto...@...> writes: > Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: > http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists > The whole list is archived at various websites. >
How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20 forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)? It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used lists before knowing LyX. > I don't see an advantage. At forums I always have to log in before I can post and I have to open the > webpage to reply. That means I every time have to enable cookies in my browser, then enter my user > name and password and then write afterwards I have to delete my browser history and disable cookies. > With a mailing list I only have to subscribe once and get the emails whenever I want to. I can also > store important mails at my PC, forward messages, compose messages out of several other ones, CC and > BCC people, .... All this is not possible with a forum. It's 10 years since last time I disabled cookies. I'm a Windows (95% of time) "integrate" internet user as millions more. I use cookies in my Xandros OS too. Integrate doesn't mean computer-pro. Sometimes it's opposite to pro. Children use forums. They always had, because they are very, VERY simple. Lists are not that simple, comparing to forums (unless you care about cookies, which 99% of people don't). Everything has its thumb up and down. I believe you that with lists you can do many things which a forum can't. But that's not the point. Lists are difficoult to use comparing to their advantages, so they are for PRO users, almost always have been, and in future I guess they will be ONLY for pro. Their worst difficoulty is to LEARN how it works (I spent some days puzzling and puzzling and sending messages to wrong addresses till I went to GMANE and used its forum-like interface) > I think that LyX is one of the best documented projects and our user support is outstanding. When > you have a problem with LyX you'll usually get a solution within a day or two. So I'm interested why > you think LyX lacks information. 100% agree with you. I didn't want to say LyX lacks information. LyX information is GREAT and of 1st quality and fast and reliable and sincere. Just that if you can't have access to this information, it's value is ZERO, no matter why you didn't have access. Let's say my name is Joe Average and I'm one of those 1000 potential LyX users who weekly crash in site. I use Windows and used MS Access at basic level once. I know something about html. I'm smart so I use OOo Writer with styles. I use the internet everyday. FULL STOP. I found Lyx.org just because I read something, in a forum ;) of students. I try to use it and I get it working but that very day I get stuck trying to use some pics. Guide says I have to learn how to install it properly, and the basics of LaTeX. That's fair. Then I have to tweak something in the preamble. Ok. I have to change completely my Word-formatted mind. HARD, BUT I CAN. I just need some help, and LaTeX forums are not for LyXers and they're always with all that \$%. Then, they say me that I have to learn how to use a list (something I heard of at the beginning of the internet). I try once, twice. I give up lists. I give up LyX. Hope will be better for next 999 users but I don't believe it. Against common Scientific-pro based opinions, I think LyX strategy should be "GO TO THE PEOPLE", to students, to humanists, to people who are not computer- pros which are millions. They still have to learn something aboute code etc. but the LyX community should ban everything which could stay between them and LyX and of course between them and LyX information (and is not strictly needed). Lists are just one of these little annoying things. I didn't say we have to use Facebook or a social site or something like that. Just a simple, plain forum. In a modern forum you can use a lot of features, but you need cookies, of course ;) . If the entire discussion moved there, everything would be better for new users. Well this is my idea. thanks for your opinion Piero
