2009/3/30 Piero Faustini <pierofaust...@hotmail.com>
> >
>
> Hello once again.
>
> I can't reply to all.
> [...]
Of course about children, I was pointing out that forums are VERY simple.
> And
> it's exactly what I was trying to explain: the list concept is VERY old
> (whatever this means). Yes, also e-mail is old, and almost every single
> human
> being uses it, but my 19-years old sister last week told me she doesn't
> care
> about e-mail since he has her favourite Web 2.0 communication basis: I find
> it
> terrible, but it is 2009 REALITY. (and BTW, speaking of
> intelligence/culture, I
> think my sister stays in the upper 5% of her age).
>
Somehow you replied yourself. I do not think in that case LyX is for your
sister, I think much more relevant tool for her is docs.google.com. It is
web based text editor able to produce HTML and PDF - quite nice.
> [...]At least, the smallest pieces of great wisdom are to
> be found in the mechanized habits of the million. To live in the mountain
> is
> not to live. The community should spread to as many people as possible,
> choosing the most popular, the easiest. Being aware of the gap with the
> younger
> and trying to understand him is the only way not to grow too old too soon.
> Saying that neostrada children destroyed everything worth of the internet
> is
> perhaps being completely blind in front of the great revolutions the
> internet
> (or whatever its name will be) shows us, and is building thanks to THAT
> uncultured young boy. This revolution just started, and I can't say where
> it
> will go.
>
I do not know hot to express it precisely. I expect from others as I expect
from myself to be prepared to take the knowledge from others - teachers,
coworkers... Today I often feel that large number of people treats knowledge
as a necessary evil. You mentioned evolution of Web 2.0 culture and its
habits, but have you ever think about difference between level of its users
and its creators? Guys coding CMS, Wiki and other stuff still uses
maillists, even if there old. New tools are use to documenting (LyX has
Wiki) and buqtracking (LyX has bugzilla). Lists are easy to use for all
those geeks, becase they're faster, easier to read. I am sure that busy
proffesionals do not have time to read forums and they feel anger when they
have to spent time clicking all these slowly loading pages full of
advertisements.
> I miss that times before commercialized Internet.
>
> [...]
> I can't use mailing lists but I believe they are really smart. The last
> time I
> installed Thunderbird I think it was beta, but I was already sure I would
> have
> never and never save a single mail in my PCs: the future was the WEB and
> now
> it's the present, and I stay with the present, if I can't with the future.
> Full
> stop.
I have to write that: I think you choose your way of computing. You are very
good client for google products. But you are trying to convince couple
hunderd people that your way is the best. This does not work this way. You
can argue with us even with arguments as given below or all mentioned
ealier. Probably most of us will agree with you in many places. But this
will not lanuch a revolution causing LyX users moving to forums.
>
> I only can tell you that you should keep your eyes open: faster, wider
> communication is THE need of the present. I just gave voice to the majority
> of
> non-computer-geeks, non-technical/scientific academics which deserve a
> little
> more interest from the LaTeX community and most of all from LyX.
> [...]
I have eyes open widely. But I don't think I am looking in the same
direction as you. I am working on technologies which gives people like you
access to the internet wirelessly and I know what are future possibilities.
What is not going to change is the importance of e-mail in the business
world. Only amount of data sent through is changing. Btw. I remember the
time where sending 1MB attachment was an attack to recipient inbox. Today 10
MB is standard. And 7GB inbox too.
>
>
> Thanks to Manveru and to all for the replies.
> Regards.
>
> Piero
>
>
Thanks to you too. I think we can stop arguing at this point as nobody else
can convince anyone to change their mind. And I think LyX community will
left in current state for nexct couple of years... maybe some add
instruction to GMANE on the pages LyX mailists pages :-)
Regards!
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Manveru
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