Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-21 Thread Darren Freeman
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 14:39 +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > José> On Saturday 19 May 2007 2:45:29 pm Michael Gerz wrote: > > >> I prefer "Outline". > > > > José> +1 (IMHO) > > > > +1 > > +1 As the initiator of the thread, do I get veto power or something? :)

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-21 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > José> On Saturday 19 May 2007 2:45:29 pm Michael Gerz wrote: > >> I prefer "Outline". > > José>   +1 (IMHO) > > +1 +1 Jürgen

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> On Saturday 19 May 2007 2:45:29 pm Michael Gerz wrote: >> I prefer "Outline". José> +1 (IMHO) +1 JMarc

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-21 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 19 May 2007 2:45:29 pm Michael Gerz wrote: > I prefer "Outline". +1 (IMHO) > Michael -- José Abílio

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-19 Thread Michael Gerz
Helge Hafting schrieb: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: You see this as natural from the programmer POV, but I am not sure it is so clear from the user point of view. What about renaming the entry as "Outline" or "Show outline"? Good idea. The current name might make the user think it is for mo

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Gerz
Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: Ahh... semantics! For me, "Document" is about the settings and action of a document. The simple fact that a user doesn't go naturally to Document" shows IMO. Oh, well. Now we are back to the discussion why LyX doesn't have a "Format" menu :-) Michael

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You mean like the paragraph settings dialog or any other dialog LyX has? Abdelrazak> Not all dialogs but dock widgets that have vocation to Abdelrazak> stay visible all the time are certainly special.

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You mean like the paragraph settings dialog or any other dialog >> LyX has? Abdelrazak> Not all dialogs but dock widgets that have vocation to Abdelrazak> stay visible all the time are certainly special. An the Abdelrazak> To

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> And my point is that if toolbars are there, then so should Abdelrazak> be the TOC dock widget. Because that's also a GUI thing. You mean like the paragraph settings dialog or any other dialog

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Helge Hafting
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: You see this as natural from the programmer POV, but I am not sure it is so clear from the user point of view. What about renaming the entry as "Outline" or "Show outline"? Good idea. The current name might make the user think it is for modifying TOC entries. He

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> And my point is that if toolbars are there, then so should Abdelrazak> be the TOC dock widget. Because that's also a GUI thing. You mean like the paragraph settings dialog or any other dialog LyX has? Abdelrazak> And

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Bernhard" == Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tollbars are a part of the gui, not a view attached to the document. A purely display thing. Bernhard> That's not 100% true IMO. Some toolbar buttons reflect the Bernhard> document state and you can modify

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-15 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bernhard Roider wrote: The simple fact that a user doesn't go naturally to Document" shows IMO. +1 I remember that i really often searched the toc in the view menu until i finally got used to open it where it is now. ditto. Btw: When closing a document the toc also closes even if there

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bernhard" == Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Tollbars are a part of the gui, not a view attached to the >> document. A purely display thing. Bernhard> That's not 100% true IMO. Some toolbar buttons reflect the Bernhard> document state and you can modify the document with th

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Bernhard Roider
The simple fact that a user doesn't go naturally to Document" shows IMO. +1 I remember that i really often searched the toc in the view menu until i finally got used to open it where it is now. Btw: When closing a document the toc also closes even if there is another document opend. But it

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Bernhard Roider
Tollbars are a part of the gui, not a view attached to the document. A purely display thing. That's not 100% true IMO. Some toolbar buttons reflect the document state and you can modify the document with them. Have a look at the various toggle buttons. Bernhard

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:44:46PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> How would I do this if my document didn't have a TOC insert? > >> Shouldn't there be a View->TOC menu item? > > Abdelrazak> It is in "Document->Table Of

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is not only a view thing, since it can be used as an outline mode. Therefore I think I prefer it as it is. Abdelrazak> It is "View" as in "Dialog View", the same as "Toolbars". Abdelrazak> If "TOC"

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It is not only a view thing, since it can be used as an outline >> mode. Therefore I think I prefer it as it is. Abdelrazak> It is "View" as in "Dialog View", the same as "Toolbars". Abdelrazak> If "TOC" doesn't belong to "Vi

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: How would I do this if my document didn't have a TOC insert? Shouldn't there be a View->TOC menu item? Abdelrazak> It is in "Document->Table Of Contents" but I agree that it Abdelrazak> should be in the V

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> How would I do this if my document didn't have a TOC insert? >> Shouldn't there be a View->TOC menu item? Abdelrazak> It is in "Document->Table Of Contents" but I agree that it Abdelrazak> should be in the View menu instead. A

Re: TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Darren Freeman wrote: Hi all, I just saw the fancy new feature where I click on the TOC insert and it brings up a table of contents on the left side of the main window. Very snazzy! How would I do this if my document didn't have a TOC insert? Shouldn't there be a View->TOC menu item? It is in

TOC without a TOC

2007-05-14 Thread Darren Freeman
Hi all, I just saw the fancy new feature where I click on the TOC insert and it brings up a table of contents on the left side of the main window. Very snazzy! How would I do this if my document didn't have a TOC insert? Shouldn't there be a View->TOC menu item? Does this still make sense withou