Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-04-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Bo Peng wrote: The .lyx format is not really working. One can, e.g. not use 'real' text within math, which makes implementing e.g. \mbox impossible. There must be some good reasons to change .lyx format, and switch to unicode. But those reasons are invisible to normal users like me. All

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-04-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 09:13:17AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: > > The .lyx format is not really working. One can, e.g. not use > > 'real' text within math, which makes implementing e.g. \mbox > > impossible. > > There must be some good reasons to change .lyx format, and switch to > unicode. But those r

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-04-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > The .lyx format is not really working. One can, e.g. not use | > 'real' text within math, which makes implementing e.g. \mbox | > impossible. | | There must be some good reasons to change .lyx format, and switch to | unicode. But those reasons are invisib

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-04-01 Thread Bo Peng
> The .lyx format is not really working. One can, e.g. not use > 'real' text within math, which makes implementing e.g. \mbox > impossible. There must be some good reasons to change .lyx format, and switch to unicode. But those reasons are invisible to normal users like me. All I can see is that I

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-04-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 06:49:41AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: > > Think *unicode* and forget about this one for now. > > If you ask me what are the most important features I have in mind. I > would say: NO more new features. If .lyx format is working, why XML? > If current foreign language support is f

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bo> If current foreign language support is fine, why unicode? The problem is that it is not fine, it is a hack. JMarc

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-31 Thread Bo Peng
ode or scripting language support. Just my two cents. Bo

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-31 Thread Georg Baum
Charles de Miramon wrote: > I'm not a developper but I'm wondering if you are not underestimating the > complexity of going Unicode. I don't think so. > Changing the internal format to Unicode is > maybe not that hard but having a fully Unicode editor is *very* complex. And the latter is not t

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-31 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 12:34 +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > > > > Think *unicode* and forget about this one for now. > > > > I'm not a developper but I'm wondering if you are not underestimating the > complexity of going Unicode. Changing the internal format to

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-31 Thread Charles de Miramon
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Think *unicode* and forget about this one for now. > I'm not a developper but I'm wondering if you are not underestimating the complexity of going Unicode. Changing the internal format to Unicode is maybe not that hard but having a fully Unicode editor is *very* co

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > If we are going for this it will be a major new feature (IMHO) and | > should then wait for 1.7. | | And it needs cleanup of classes like buffer. Anyway, the real | implementation is *easy* so this feature is not that far away from us. This feature has a

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-30 Thread Bo Peng
> If you want to wrap c++ to interface with python, I suggest boost::python. > It's easy once you get over the learning curve, and we're already using > boost. That is true, but I only know SWIG. :-) While SWIG can wrap all the classes automatically, boost::python need to write things manually (an

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-30 Thread Neal Becker
Bo Peng wrote: >> If we are going for this it will be a major new feature (IMHO) and >> should then wait for 1.7. > > And it needs cleanup of classes like buffer. Anyway, the real > implementation is *easy* so this feature is not that far away from us. > > Bo If you want to wrap c++ to interfac

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-30 Thread Bo Peng
> If we are going for this it will be a major new feature (IMHO) and > should then wait for 1.7. And it needs cleanup of classes like buffer. Anyway, the real implementation is *easy* so this feature is not that far away from us. Bo

Re: Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Dear list, | | I just read a bit about 'LyX Wanted Features list' and saw | | Scripting language: Support a scripting language to control various | parts of LyX, this requires deciding on an official scripting | language. The

Scripting language of lyx

2006-03-30 Thread Bo Peng
Dear list, I just read a bit about 'LyX Wanted Features list' and saw Scripting language: Support a scripting language to control various parts of LyX, this requires deciding on an official scripting language. The idea is for non-core parts of LyX to be moved to the scripting languag

The development of a scripting language

2002-07-10 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid
I was wondering, is there a way that it could be possible to generate box scripts. What I mean by this is, say there was a small feature that I wanted to add, and it consisted of some latex code with arguments passed to it. A good example would be this acronym feature. The box script could l

Re: Scripting Language Shootout

2001-06-02 Thread Baruch Even
* John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010603 01:26]: > > I would suggest the simplest solution to this decision is to see what > gets implemented ... since there aren't that many developers I don't > really see a problem in choosing a particular language, since there is > unlikely to be more than one

Re: Scripting Language Shootout

2001-06-02 Thread John Levon
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Baruch Even wrote: > There was a suggestion to do a shootout between scripting languages. It > was mostly done already, though not in the context of an embedded > editor. > > Check this site for comparisons: http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ > > This is by no means complet

Scripting Language Shootout

2001-06-02 Thread Baruch Even
There was a suggestion to do a shootout between scripting languages. It was mostly done already, though not in the context of an embedded editor. Check this site for comparisons: http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ This is by no means complete or correct, the author says that many of the progr

LyX Scripting Language (was Re: Belated summary of LyX feedback from CALU)

1999-08-15 Thread John Weiss
embedded script as soon as the file is read. My little analogy should demonstrate why "scripting language != Macro Virus" in the Unix world. Only a blithering idiot would intentionally design a program to auto-execute anything whatsoever. I'd like to think that we on the LyX Team ar

a couple of scripting language concerns

1998-12-21 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
d to live without: 1) recordability: There should be some ability to record a sequence of actions, save them in the scripting language, and make them activatable. For example, a user would likely want to take the sequence of actions which produce a 3x3 matrix with braces around it, and the cu

scripting language thoughts...

1998-12-18 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
Hi, It's Friday, so I'll throw my tuppence-worth in here. Candidates I would consider: 1. Perl. But only because it's free and people know it. It's a great text-processing language, but it's not really a control language, which I imagine is the priority. 2. Javascript. It's pretty s

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-14 Thread Andre' Poenitz
> > However, we need to be careful about that new EU parentheses tax . . . > > :) If I read the tax manual correctly, smilies count as 'half of a pair of paranthesis' if imported from outside the EU. But if used in vegetarian text, the tax is halved. Anyway, I'd rather have something easy to r

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-14 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
lars lamented, > *Mate Wierdl writes: > | Ah, I read the thread. My question was what was the objection to > | Scheme here on *this* list. > I have none. > Asger things it has complicated syntax for beginners. The fact that I was able to sit down and start using it in an afternoon sugges

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
*Mate Wierdl writes: | Ah, I read the thread. My question was what was the objection to | Scheme here on *this* list. I have none. Asger things it has complicated syntax for beginners. Lgb

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
*Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: | I am not against the principle of using something like python. The | only thing that annoys me is that, according to what I read, next | version will require: | | - python | | - something like t1lib to do Type1 fonts rendering, plus a bunch of | TeX type1

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 07:19:04PM -0500, Cedric Puddy wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Mate Wierdl wrote: > http://icemcfd.com/tcl/comparison.html > > > > Looks very interesting. The GNU people seem to have made up their mind(s). > > What was the objection against scheme here? > > > > --- >

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Cedric Puddy
On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Mate Wierdl wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 10:13:59AM -0500, Cedric Puddy wrote: > > > There was a (massive) discussion (featuring > > John Ousterhout "the tcl guy" and Richard Stallman > > [who seems to be responsible for the GNU architecure!], > > and lots of other very

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Jacek M. Holeczek
Hi, My 5 cents. What about a C/C++ interpreter as a scripting engine ? Have a look at CINT : http://root.cern.ch/root/Cint.html Jacek.

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
y first programming words in basic, as a child; oh sweet memories!!! And to be consistent with our new official scripting language, we should switch the source code to fortran, to make happy my grandfather. Alejandro

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 10:13:59AM -0500, Cedric Puddy wrote: > There was a (massive) discussion (featuring > John Ousterhout "the tcl guy" and Richard Stallman > [who seems to be responsible for the GNU architecure!], > and lots of other very knowledgable people) about > Tcl VS. other scripting

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Amir Karger
On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 03:00:12PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > Hi! > > It seems that the best for us would be to bundle a scripting > language. > > In order to avoid having to implement our own language from > scratch, it might make sense to start with somethi

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Abílio de Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> I prefer Python, since its gracefull, simple, really neat and José> it does what I expect to :-(). José> FYI, all the users of sgmltools ( the GPL tools that provide José> the support for docbook document process

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Cedric Puddy
ouisa Street, Kitchener, Ontario, N2H 5M3, 519-884-0701 \ Cedric Puddy, IS Director[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key Available at: http://www.thinkers.org/cedric On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > It seems that

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread José Abílio de Oliveira Matos
Hi, I have strong feelings against to introduce another scripting language, one more language to learn and master if you want to do something. I think that we should stick to one of the major league script languages {Perl,Python,Tcl}. I prefer Python, since its gracefull

Re: Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> Yabasic. A basic variant that's GPL. Asger> http://www.online.de/home/ihm/basic.htm Asger> I don't know how much work there is in adapting it. It Asger> features some things we don't need, such as graphics and Asger>

Candiate scripting language bases

1998-12-11 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
Hi! It seems that the best for us would be to bundle a scripting language. In order to avoid having to implement our own language from scratch, it might make sense to start with something and hack that to suit our needs. I've done a bit of searching and so far found one candidate language

Scripting language...

1998-12-09 Thread David S de Lis
Hi all, I have followed this thread with interest despite my busy, busy agenda :( Although I really like Perl5, maybe precisely for the powerful different constructions it allows to solve the same problem (it's easier to fit the way the programmer/user think about that problem) I can see a probl