Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
*Garst R Reese writes: | Well, a friend of mine smuggled an asian apple-2e clone into | Indonesia by declaring to customs as a "Pineapple processor." I | don't like the "processor" terminology with either word or | document, but I have not come up with an alternative either. -- "Document Prep

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-28 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I was a bit disappointed, at the time the message about SciWord was > sent to the list, to see that you did not show more interest for > it. So I just stored it, waiting for the right moment :) At that time I was rather busy with things I left t

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-27 Thread Garst R. Reese
John Weiss wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 09:43:35AM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > > the term "document processor" makes me think of "food proces

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-27 Thread John Weiss
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 09:43:35AM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > the term "document processor" makes me think of "food processor", for > some strange reas

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> Basically to fix several missfunctions in mathed, but some Alejandro> things could be considered as new features (and introduce Alejandro> new bugs). I'll write a repo soon. I was a bit disappointed, at the time

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Garst R. Reese
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > Alejandro> So interesting that I'm thinking on violating the 1.0 > > Alejandro> frozen in order to have a more decent mathed for LyX > > Alejandro> 1.0. That's your fault!! ;) > > > > I'm sorry about that

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Alejandro> So interesting that I'm thinking on violating the 1.0 > Alejandro> frozen in order to have a more decent mathed for LyX > Alejandro> 1.0. That's your fault!! ;) > > I'm sorry about that :) What do you have in mind? Basically to fix

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Here is a message we got some times ago describing features we >> could 'steal' from SciWord. There are interesting things there. Alejandro> So interesting t

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Here is a message we got some times ago describing features we could > 'steal' from SciWord. There are interesting things there. So interesting that I'm thinking on violating the 1.0 frozen in order to have a more decent mathed for LyX 1.0. Th

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread David S de Lis
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > > the term "document processor" makes me think

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > the term "document processor" makes me think of "food processor", for > some strange reason, although I haven

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: >> I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as >> good as LyX. It's similar in many aspects, since it's built on top >> of LaTeX. It impo

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as > good as LyX. It's similar in many aspects, since it's built > on top of LaTeX. It imports LaTeX to a (very) limited degree. [...] > There are a few areas where they are ahea

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jochen Kuepper
On Die, 26 Jan 1999 Larry S. Marso wrote: >Could an owner of Scientific Word post exported LaTeX of whatever templates >accompany the "large range of document styles built in"? What do you mean - you do want latex code produced by SciWord for empty docs, using different layouts ? >It might provi

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Disclaimer: since I am painfully doing multitasking between the mailing list and my real work, don't take what I write this week as something I really think :) Larry> On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 11:08:26AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Larry>

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Andre' Poenitz
> > Could an owner of Scientific Word post exported LaTeX of whatever templates > accompany the "large range of document styles built in"? I am a bit confused on 'Scientific Word' and 'Scientific Workplace'. Anyway... At least the latter has a nice interface to Maple an a wide range of predef

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Larry S. Marso
Could an owner of Scientific Word post exported LaTeX of whatever templates accompany the "large range of document styles built in"? It might provide an interesting kick start to the Manhattan Project, the effort to develop templates and additional latexconfig's for LyX. Best regards -- Larry S

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 11:08:26AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > The problem is not in the functionality, but in the spirit. Most > people I know use Word as a glorified MacWrite. They don't structure > their documents because word makes it easy to just manage words and > make them look

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jochen Kuepper
On Die, 26 Jan 1999 Amir Karger wrote: >On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: >> > Sorry to write it: Scientific Word/Workplace. >> > But actually most Word users might not know that Windoze program as well. >> >> I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Amir Karger
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > Sorry to write it: Scientific Word/Workplace. > > But actually most Word users might not know that Windoze program as well. > > I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as > good as LyX. It's simila

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> Sorry to write it: Scientific Word/Workplace. > But actually most Word users might not know that Windoze program as well. I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as good as LyX. It's similar in many aspects, since it's built on top of LaTeX. It imports LaTeX to a (very) l

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Garst R. Reese
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Larry> It's also been explained here, recently, that Word is *fully* > Larry> capable of so-called "document processing", but that it's > Larry> bogged down bloatware with lots of "two finger typist" s

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Garst R. Reese
"Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" wrote: > > > It's also been explained here, recently, that Word is *fully* capable of > > so-called "document processing", but that it's bogged down bloatware > > with lots of "two finger typist" support -- so that it's LyX-like features > > are rarely used, and even if

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Larry> It's also been explained here, recently, that Word is *fully* Larry> capable of so-called "document processing", but that it's Larry> bogged down bloatware with lots of "two finger typist" support Larry> -- so that it's LyX-like fe

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> It's also been explained here, recently, that Word is *fully* capable of > so-called "document processing", but that it's bogged down bloatware > with lots of "two finger typist" support -- so that it's LyX-like features > are rarely used, and even if used, slowed down by all the overhead. > >

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jochen Kuepper
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 Garst R. Reese wrote: >Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> >> > "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Larry> I'd certainly never advocate saying "document processor", >> Larry> "structure based approach" and "predefined rule sets", in the >> Larry> first p

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-25 Thread Larry S. Marso
It's also been explained here, recently, that Word is *fully* capable of so-called "document processing", but that it's bogged down bloatware with lots of "two finger typist" support -- so that it's LyX-like features are rarely used, and even if used, slowed down by all the overhead. This belies

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-25 Thread Garst R. Reese
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Larry> I'd certainly never advocate saying "document processor", > Larry> "structure based approach" and "predefined rule sets", in the > Larry> first paragraph. Even if these are pet phrases of some

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Here they are: Directory Martin> http://www.netby.net/Oest/Europa-Alle/vermeer/ Martin> Files Martin> LyX-PR_1.txt The oldest. More or less superseded IMHO Martin> LyX-PR_2.txt My latest from earlier this week LyX-PR_3.txt A M

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Larry> I'd certainly never advocate saying "document processor", Larry> "structure based approach" and "predefined rule sets", in the Larry> first paragraph. Even if these are pet phrases of some LyX Larry> developers, they really say no

Re: latexconf? (Was Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc)

1999-01-23 Thread Roland Krause
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Liisa Vermeer wrote: Snip --->8 > Yeah, the are good at copying. I believe that the whole original idea of > paragraph styles, style sheets, etc. was pinched straight from LaTeX. > (well, > where did Lamport get it from originally? Wasn't there a software called > 'Scribe'

Re: latexconf? (Was Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc)

1999-01-23 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 08:28:22AM -0500, Larry S. Marso wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 02:59:12PM -0800, Liisa Vermeer wrote: > > > > It is the idea for a little program that can be called "latexconf", > > whose > > only function it would be to interactively compose a file redefining > > many

Re: latexconf? (Was Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc)

1999-01-23 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 02:59:12PM -0800, Liisa Vermeer wrote: > > I have actually an idea worth thinking about ... > It is the idea for a little program that can be called "latexconf", > whose > only function it would be to interactively compose a file redefining > many of the environments us

latexconf? (Was Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc)

1999-01-23 Thread Liisa Vermeer
Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > > - Which one do you prefer? (why?) > > I prefer the last one, because it explains the WYSIWYM principle the best. That makes two out of two. And I'm the third (but didn't want to bias you all). Question is now: Does anybody have a problem with 3, or consider

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-23 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> - Which one do you prefer? (why?) I prefer the last one, because it explains the WYSIWYM principle the best. I understand Larry's point that cut/paste can be dangerous, but I think the text is coherent. > - Which "point editings" (i.e. no large reorganizations, but e.g. paragraph > switches

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:01:05PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > LyX-PR_1.txt The oldest. More or less superseded IMHO > LyX-PR_2.txt My latest from earlier this week > LyX-PR_3.txt A thorough reworking, following up on (and taking large > chunks of) Larry Marso's counterproposal.

RE: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-22 Thread Roland Krause
Martin, this third version is excellent !!! Roland On 22-Jan-99 Martin Vermeer wrote: > Here they are: Directory > > http://www.netby.net/Oest/Europa-Alle/vermeer/ > > Files > > LyX-PR_1.txt The oldest. More or less superseded IMHO > LyX-PR_2.txt My latest from earlier this week > LyX-PR_3.t