On Tuesday 31 October 2006 9:10 pm, Peter Kümmel wrote:
> >
> > That should be a nice stress test. :-)
>
> What about changing your DIV to something like 5, using double line space
> fontsize 12pt, BCOR 3cm
Don't tell anyone but I took advantage of my knowledge of the lyx file
format to c
José Matos wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 7:04 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
>> Thanks to both of you. I believe that you are an ideal candidate to profile
>> the opening of child documents. Since your thesis is finished it should be
>> bigger than mine, so you should see a nice slowdown ;-)
>
> If
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 7:03 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
> OK. I have meanwhile implemented a maximum lifetime, I'll send a patch
> soon.
Fair enough, thanks. :-)
> Georg
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José Abílio
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 7:04 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
> Thanks to both of you. I believe that you are an ideal candidate to profile
> the opening of child documents. Since your thesis is finished it should be
> bigger than mine, so you should see a nice slowdown ;-)
If all you care is size I wil
Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 17:01 schrieb José Matos:
> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 3:52 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> >
> > I was reading this:
> >
> > http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/qpixmapcache.html
> >
> > Maybe we can reuse that?
>
> I think that Georg is talking about disc space cache, not
Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 12:08 schrieb José Matos:
> On Monday 30 October 2006 8:47 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd like to have help with the cache management as outlined above and
> > > with profiling the slowness when opening all child docs
automatically.
> >
> > I'll try to h
Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 12:04 schrieb José Matos:
> On Monday 30 October 2006 7:56 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
> >
> > I don't think so, at least for things like index entries. The difficult
> > thing is not the change in the file format (in fact the syntax will be
the
> > same, only the sematics
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 3:52 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>
> I was reading this:
>
> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/qpixmapcache.html
>
> Maybe we can reuse that?
I think that Georg is talking about disc space cache, not in memory.
> Abdel.
--
José Abílio
José Matos wrote:
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 3:52 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I was reading this:
http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/qpixmapcache.html
Maybe we can reuse that?
I think that Georg is talking about disc space cache, not in memory.
Indeed, forget about it.
Abdel.
Georg Baum wrote:
The image cache works well now. The only thing that would be needed
before
it can be put in trunk are some lyxrc options for cache size, cache
file
lifetime and code that uses these options to cleanup the cache.
I would welcome a lyxrc only patch for now. Working on a docu
On Monday 30 October 2006 8:47 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to have help with the cache management as outlined above and
> > with profiling the slowness when opening all child docs automatically.
>
> I'll try to help with that.
FWIW I will do it as well. :-)
> Abdel.
--
José
On Monday 30 October 2006 7:56 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
>
> I don't think so, at least for things like index entries. The difficult
> thing is not the change in the file format (in fact the syntax will be the
> same, only the sematics are changed), but the proper conversion of
> non-escaped characters
On Monday 30 October 2006 1:04 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> Some of the bugs have trivial fixes. There are two enhancements
> >> that could be applied to 1.5 instead (save all files and show
> >> modified files in buffer list). A
Georg Baum wrote:
Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2006 12:22 schrieb José Matos:
problem that it causes all child documents to be loaded if you open the
master, and this can take some time. Either we need to speed up loading
of
a document (actually I don't know why it is so slow), or we need to
implem
Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2006 12:22 schrieb José Matos:
> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 8:30 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
> >
> > Several bugs in bugzilla with the fileformat keyword:
> >
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_de
>
>sc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_des
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Peter Kümmel wrote:
>> José Matos wrote:
>>> On Monday 30 October 2006 12:13 pm, Peter Kümmel wrote:
Did I get you right that then it is also dropped for 1.5.0?
>>> I was referring to 1.5. :-)
>>>
>>> If Jean-Marc and Abdel support you can commit it. As far as I
Peter Kümmel wrote:
José Matos wrote:
On Monday 30 October 2006 12:13 pm, Peter Kümmel wrote:
Did I get you right that then it is also dropped for 1.5.0?
I was referring to 1.5. :-)
If Jean-Marc and Abdel support you can commit it. As far as I remember the
patch is small and localized, r
Peter Kümmel wrote:
José Matos wrote:
On Monday 30 October 2006 12:13 pm, Peter Kümmel wrote:
Did I get you right that then it is also dropped for 1.5.0?
I was referring to 1.5. :-)
If Jean-Marc and Abdel support you can commit it. As far as I remember the
patch is small and localized, r
José Matos wrote:
> On Monday 30 October 2006 12:13 pm, Peter Kümmel wrote:
>> Did I get you right that then it is also dropped for 1.5.0?
>
> I was referring to 1.5. :-)
>
> If Jean-Marc and Abdel support you can commit it. As far as I remember the
> patch is small and localized, right?
Ye
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Some of the bugs have trivial fixes. There are two enhancements
>> that could be applied to 1.5 instead (save all files and show
>> modified files in buffer list). And some bugs could probably be
>> moved to later.
José> I welcome those
On Monday 30 October 2006 12:13 pm, Peter Kümmel wrote:
> Did I get you right that then it is also dropped for 1.5.0?
I was referring to 1.5. :-)
If Jean-Marc and Abdel support you can commit it. As far as I remember the
patch is small and localized, right?
> Peter
--
José Abílio
José Matos wrote:
>>> My proposal follows that coming from the meeting to enter a period of
>>> feature freeze, that is no more features are allowed at this point.
>> So, sorry Peter, I guess this is too late for the TabWidget :-(
>> But don't feel demotivated I reckon such simple and useful ad
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 10:26 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Here is what is on the table right now:
>
> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_de
>sc=&target_milestone=1.4.4&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file
>_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_fi
José Matos wrote:
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 8:34 am, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Nothing wrong per see. But I agree with Georg that "alpha stage" should
not necessarily mean "no more feature".
That is where I disagree. The release of an alpha release, at least at this
stage should mean no m
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 9:42 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> There is also the problem of the next 1.4 release. Some stuff needs to
> be fixed before 1.4.4, but depending on 1.5 timing, it is not clear
> yet whether it should be the last one. I think there will be time for
> a 1.4.5 that imp
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 8:34 am, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>
> Nothing wrong per see. But I agree with Georg that "alpha stage" should
> not necessarily mean "no more feature".
That is where I disagree. The release of an alpha release, at least at this
stage should mean no more features.
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 8:30 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
>
> No. IMO it was a mistake to skip the "let those who care keep it working in
> svn while others ignore it" phase. But now the baby is already thrown out
> and dead. I was willing to keep the qt3 frontend working as long as that
> would not re
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 1:16 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> José Matos wrote:
> > Hi fellow developers,
> >
> > So with this said I look forward to see Georg (who seems to always read
> > my mind when it comes to lyx2lyx), Abdel (to pay you a beverage for qt4
> > work) or
>
> Noted ;-)
Pl
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 10:43 am, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:07:13AM +0100, José Matos wrote:
> > Hi fellow developers,
>
> Hi José, hope you recovered from your tour de force ;-)
One week after the original message I have recovered. :-)
> > I am not trying to
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 8:25 am, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>
> > Mixing the two previous paragraphs, that means that we should release a
> > product as soon as possible when certain requirements are met, those
> > requirements are:
> > - to have a stable frontend;
> > - no (known)
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 6:46 am, Michael Gerz wrote:
> José Matos wrote:
> >1.5 Features:
> >- Unicode / new encodings.
> >- Multiple windows.
> >- Change tracking
> >- Sessions
> >
> >- What am I missing more?
>
> - Outlook?
> - Improved dialogs (some 1.4/qt3 dialogs are a PITA)?
OK, I added
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 12:25 am, John Levon wrote:
>
> Bitter? You ought to have seen the discussion about the fix I sent on
> IRC... eventually I just gave up. I used to fight my corner until
> everyone understood everyone else well enough when I was doing proper
> LyX development. Now I just
Am Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 11:14 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> > "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Georg> It is a real problem. Opening my thesis takes already 15
> Georg> seconds. Currently I can live with that because I don't need to
> Georg> to that so often.
>
>
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:42:36AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
>> One year for the 1.5 cycle would not be a scandal, and that puts us
>> in march 2007. I am not saying that we shall do that, but there is
>> no need to
On Friday 27 October 2006 10:32 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> You know that that Christmas release data is kind of a running gag...
That is the point. :-)
In the talk that I gave yesterday, I presented this idea, something like
this:
LyX fake FAQ
Q: When will feature xyz (replace xyz with ap
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:42:36AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> One year for the 1.5 cycle would not be a scandal, and that puts us in
> march 2007. I am not saying that we shall do that, but there is no
> need to try to get a xmas date (as was proposed elsewhere) if we feel
> we cannot do
> "Peter" == Peter Kümmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Peter> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> There is also the problem of the next 1.4 release. Some stuff needs
>> to be fixed before 1.4.4, but depending on 1.5 timing, it is not
>> clear yet whether it should be the last one. I think there will
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Georg> It is a real problem. Opening my thesis takes already 15
Georg> seconds. Currently I can live with that because I don't need to
Georg> to that so often.
This is something gprof could help us to understand, since the time is
probably
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> There is also the problem of the next 1.4 release. Some stuff needs to
> be fixed before 1.4.4, but depending on 1.5 timing, it is not clear
> yet whether it should be the last one. I think there will be time for
> a 1.4.5 that implements necessary lyx2lyx support.
I
Peter Kümmel wrote:
Wouldn't it help when you post a check-list for the 1.4.4 release?
Then we could pick out an item, and do always see what's still to do.
I think there can be 1.4 releases more often. There always remain things
to be fixed. For 1.4.4 I would suggest to solve the crash bugs
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> There is also the problem of the next 1.4 release. Some stuff needs to
> be fixed before 1.4.4, but depending on 1.5 timing, it is not clear
> yet whether it should be the last one. I think there will be time for
> a 1.4.5 that implements necessary lyx2lyx support.
Wo
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Georg> No. IMO it was a mistake to skip the "let those who care keep
Georg> it working in svn while others ignore it" phase. But now the
Georg> baby is already thrown out and dead.
Personnally, I would have welcome a resurrection of qt3, bu
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Michael Gerz wrote:
>> Jose,
>>
>> let me summarize Georg's patch list:
>>
>> - bugs in bugzilla with the fileformat keyword (can only be fixed in a
>> major release)
>> - esint (more or less finished)
>> - nomencl (finished)
>> - xymatrix (almost working implementatio
Michael Gerz wrote:
Jose,
let me summarize Georg's patch list:
- bugs in bugzilla with the fileformat keyword (can only be fixed in a
major release)
- esint (more or less finished)
- nomencl (finished)
- xymatrix (almost working implementation)
- image cache (works well; needs lyxrc options)
Jose,
let me summarize Georg's patch list:
- bugs in bugzilla with the fileformat keyword (can only be fixed in a
major release)
- esint (more or less finished)
- nomencl (finished)
- xymatrix (almost working implementation)
- image cache (works well; needs lyxrc options)
- navigation across c
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:59:07AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote:
> > I don't know what others think, but I would not add a mistake to another
> > mistake. I mean, it was a mistake the sudden drop of qt3, but now that
> > the decision was made it would be another mistake to revert it.
> > However, I would
Am Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 01:07 schrieb José Matos:
> Again following the previous reasoning, I propose the following, we
should
> revert the removal of qt3 from lyx 1.5, now that we have manage to keep
it
> until the feature freeze it would look like throwing the baby with the
water
I don't know what others think, but I would not add a mistake to another
mistake. I mean, it was a mistake the sudden drop of qt3, but now that
the decision was made it would be another mistake to revert it.
However, I would like to know what Bo thinks about it, as he is left
in the cold with his
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
José> Mixing the two previous paragraphs, that means that we should
José> release a product as soon as possible when certain requirements
José> are met, those requirements are: - to have a stable frontend; -
José> no (known) regressions are
José Matos wrote:
Hi fellow developers,
So with this said I look forward to see Georg (who seems to always read my
mind when it comes to lyx2lyx), Abdel (to pay you a beverage for qt4 work) or
Noted ;-)
As a release manager I am a firm believer in the principle of "releasing
earlier, re
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:07:13AM +0100, José Matos wrote:
> Hi fellow developers,
Hi José, hope you recovered from your tour de force ;-)
> I am not trying to remember or forget anyone in particular, it was
> interesting to meet Charles De Miramon (I hope I get the name right) last
> y
Thanks for the explanations, José. I think a rationale like this instead of
all the whine/cheese/omelett allegories would have helped a lot.
José Matos wrote:
> fill your name if I forgot, I apologise for that) we are waiting you in the
> next meeting.
It's a time problem, really.
> Practice:
>
José Matos wrote:
1.5 Features:
- Unicode / new encodings.
- Multiple windows.
- Change tracking
- Sessions
- What am I missing more?
- Outlook?
- Improved dialogs (some 1.4/qt3 dialogs are a PITA)?
How much time do the
respective owners expect to need to have the new features in such a s
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:07:13AM +0100, José Matos wrote:
> fuzzy when written. (For a bitter exchange see today's thread about RPM on
> Fedora Extras, I am a Fedora Maintainer that is why I follow this case, as an
> example of something that should never happen on LyX).
Bitter? You ought to
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