I gave up reading all the messages...
--
Lgb
Hey all,
after a month or so in Las Vegas (working unfortunately) and some time
in Upper Peninsula Michigan I'm finally back in NZ. Consequently I'll
be upgrading bugzilla 2.16 final over the next two days, let me know of
any faults that appear.
Cheers
Koz
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 04:03:56PM -0400, hawk wrote:
> amir added,
>
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:13:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Huh? vi has insert mode! It's entered by commands like i,a,o,s,c, and their
> > corresponding capitals. I'm not sure whether vi admits to replace mod
amir added,
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:13:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Huh? vi has insert mode! It's entered by commands like i,a,o,s,c, and their
> corresponding capitals. I'm not sure whether vi admits to replace mode being
> separate from insert mode, though.
Maybe things have ch
Allan added,
> I finally decided to take a look at your picture. I see the typical
> troublemaker VI user trying to establish some level of prowess by
> resorting to physical violence to attract a mate¹. This is also supported
> by the fact that the vi team has always beaten the emacs team in
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, John Levon wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, John Levon wrote:
>
> > same here !
> >
> > I literally have great trouble programming without vi. I find it very
> > painful. But writing a report in LyX is no real problem.
> >
> > But at the same time abiword actually has vi bind
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:13:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> the vi pervert Andre audiated
>
> >The problem is that there are quite a few things missing from the
> >LyX kernel to make such a thing viable. I don't think it is possible
> >at all to simulate vi's modes by fiddling with
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > C-x C-s Two keystrokes(3 keys) one hand (adjacent keys)
>
>
> > S-: w Enter Three keystrokes (4 keys) two hands (all over the place)
>
> You misspelled
>
> "S-z S-z Two keystrokes (2 keys) (no finger breaking when using right shi
dekel denoted,
> The users are already used to the M-m bindings.
> So it makes more sense to change the math menu shortcut to M-a
> (or remove the menu).
> If we are going to change the math bindings, then it must be to something
> better.
Yes. Gratuitous change (a la a certain major softwar
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:35:13PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dekel> The least used commands can be moved into a submenu, (which
> Dekel> will add one key to their bindings).
>
> Do we need to do that, since we have the math p
the vile heretic Allan added,
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, hawk wrote:
> > Lars leered,
> > > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > | > Other options is to use:
> > > | > C-c C-m or C-c m
> > > | Too long.
> > > Say that to thousends of emacs users.
> > vile heretics, all :)
> C-c C-
>But I have a strange feeling this discussion has gone on before somewhere
>... ;)
--
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, John Levon wrote:
> same here !
>
> I literally have great trouble programming without vi. I find it very
> painful. But writing a report in LyX is no real problem.
>
> But at the same time abiword actually has vi bindings. But I don't think
> there's much point in having t
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Amir Karger wrote:
> > If vi is so popular why isn't there a vi binding for LyX?
>
> Because LyX is a totally different application. Programming often requires
> lots of small changes to text. Writing a paper does require small changes,
> but also more straight typing of par
Happy Friday! We haven't had a holy war in a long time.
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 12:04:07PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, hawk wrote:
>
> > vile heretics, all :)
>
> C-c C-m Two keystrokes(4 keys)
> C-c m again two keystrokes (3 keys)
>
> How often would you do t
> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dekel> The least used commands can be moved into a submenu, (which
Dekel> will add one key to their bindings).
Do we need to do that, since we have the math panel? This would be IMO
counter-productive.
Dekel> Another solution to the math
Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:22:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > dekel deklared,
| >
| > > Why not put more items in the math menu ?
| > > E.g.
| > > Menu "math"
| > >...
| > >Item "Delim ()|(" "math-delim ( )"
| >
| > > We can then use the
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:22:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> dekel deklared,
>
> > Why not put more items in the math menu ?
> > E.g.
> > Menu "math"
> >...
> >Item "Delim ()|(" "math-delim ( )"
>
> > We can then use the old key bindings.
>
>
> There's *way* too many math bindi
> "Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jules> I wrote quite a long email about math mode HMI back in March.
Jules> I don't think anyone replied ;-)
I happen to have kept it (I can tell you it was sent "25 weeks, 2
days, 14 hours, 47 minutes, 49 seconds ago", as far as Gnus reme
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:22:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> dekel deklared,
>
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:48:37PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> > > Other options is to use:
>
> > > C-c C-m or C-c m
>
> > > We cannot expect to solve al binding by just one indirecton.
>
> >
> "dochawk" == dochawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
dochawk> There's *way* too many math bindings for that :)
Sure. However, I am not sure that the entries in the current math menu
are really useful as they are. Therefore I have a different
suggestion: why not remove the math menu altogether
> "hawk" == hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
hawk> hawk, who still needs to file bug reports on mkdir and rmdir, as
hawk> any commands that important should only be two letters . . .
Use MSDOS.
JMarc
> C-x C-s Two keystrokes(3 keys) one hand (adjacent keys)
> S-: w Enter Three keystrokes (4 keys) two hands (all over the place)
You misspelled
"S-z S-z Two keystrokes (2 keys) (no finger breaking when using right shift)"
quite a bit...
> I agree with all but the order of
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, hawk wrote:
> Lars leered,
>
> > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > | > Other options is to use:
>
> > | > C-c C-m or C-c m
>
> > | Too long.
>
> > Say that to thousends of emacs users.
>
> vile heretics, all :)
C-c C-m Two keystrokes(4 keys)
C-
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:42:53PM -0400, hawk wrote:
>
> > Say that to thousends of emacs users.
>
> vile heretics, all :)
I think it's no accident that the first two letters of VILE are "vi" :-)
Seriously, I use both... So that makes me the worst type of vile
heretic.
> It's my fingers. Mo
Lars leered,
> Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | > Other options is to use:
> | > C-c C-m or C-c m
> | Too long.
> Say that to thousends of emacs users.
vile heretics, all :)
more seriously, the insanely long keystrokes are a major reason that I
tend to vi rather than emacs.
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > Other options is to use:
| >
| > C-c C-m or C-c m
|
| Too long.
Say that to thousends of emacs users.
It is only in your mind.
Lgb
dekel deklared,
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:48:37PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> > Other options is to use:
> > C-c C-m or C-c m
> > We cannot expect to solve al binding by just one indirecton.
> Why not put more items in the math menu ?
> E.g.
> Menu "math"
>...
>Item "Delim
> Other options is to use:
>
> C-c C-m or C-c m
Too long.
Andre'
--
Andre' Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:48:37PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj&resh;nnes wrote:
>
> Other options is to use:
>
> C-c C-m or C-c m
>
> We cannot expect to solve al binding by just one indirecton.
>
Why not put more items in the math menu ?
E.g.
Menu "math"
...
Item "Delim ()|(" "math-delim (
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> | Lars does not | want to have M-m bindings which are not real
Lars> menu bindings. I'd be | surprised if people like it %-]
Lars> What is the problem with changing it to "C-m {"?
I don't know yet. Someone has to review all t
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| Lars> | Lars does not | want to have M-m bindings which are not real
| Lars> menu bindings. I'd be | surprised if people like it %-]
|
| Lars> What is the problem with changing
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > "hawk" == hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| hawk> 2) I had a builid on a fresh install of debian that supposedly
| hawk> had never had a lyx before. nonetheless, without using --prefix,
| hawk> it didn't land in /usr/local, but somewhe
jmarc jmentioned,
> > "hawk" == hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hawk> 2) I had a builid on a fresh install of debian that supposedly
> hawk> had never had a lyx before. nonetheless, without using --prefix,
> hawk> it didn't land in /usr/local, but somewhere weird like
> hawk> /usr/x11/bi
> "hawk" == hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
hawk> 2) I had a builid on a fresh install of debian that supposedly
hawk> had never had a lyx before. nonetheless, without using --prefix,
hawk> it didn't land in /usr/local, but somewhere weird like
hawk> /usr/x11/bin
Obvious question: do you h
On 8 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | 3) In the preferences dialog, when I click on "show banner" (I presume
> | this disables the sticky splash screen? I hate splash screens; under
> | fvwm they take over that region of screen until the program is re
hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| 1) the current cvs download seems to omit the documentation.
The documentation is in separate module.
| 2) I had a builid on a fresh install of debian that supposedly had
| never had a lyx before. nonetheless, without using --prefix, it didn't
| land in /us
Once more I think I'm back; let's see if the machines let me stay this
time :)
In a rare event, I've successfully cvs'd the source and installed with
no help, lost machines, or other demonic intervention.
Thins have certainly changed a bit since I unsubscribed for Chris
On 07-May-99 Allan Rae wrote:
>
> We did nothing in your absence. Now you're up-to-date :P
>
:)
>
> If you stamp your feet and get huffy Mate will probably subscribe you and
> then tell you how you should have done it ;-)
>
So PLEASE Mate could you see to it that I could get into the lyx-
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> Hi Guys!
Welcome back Juergen!
> Finally I'm back to work (* big sight *)! So I would like to resume
> what you did in my absence and also to re-subscribe to the mailing lists.
We did nothing in your absence. Now you're up-to
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Hi Guys!
|
| Finally I'm back to work (* big sight *)!
Hrmmph! That took you a while :-)
| So I would like to resume
| what you did in my absence and also to re-subscribe to the mailing lists.
| I followed the advices from the lyx-ho
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 04:01:37PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> Hi Guys!
>
> Finally I'm back to work (* big sight *)! So I would like to resume
> what you did in my absence and also to re-subscribe to the mailing lists.
> I followed the advices from the lyx-home-page a
Hi Guys!
Finally I'm back to work (* big sight *)! So I would like to resume
what you did in my absence and also to re-subscribe to the mailing lists.
I followed the advices from the lyx-home-page and wrote an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but it seems that does not work as
I do not get any
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