amir added,

> On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:13:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Huh? vi has insert mode! It's entered by commands like i,a,o,s,c, and their
> corresponding capitals. I'm not sure whether vi admits to replace mode being
> separate from insert mode, though.

Maybe things have changed, but we never used to admit that insert was a 
mode rather than i<extended text> being a command.  However, with vim 
allowing you to run all over robin hood's barn and use arrow keys and 
deletion in the middle of insertion, it's getting harder to call 
insertion a command rather than a mode . . .


> > But dvorak has mostly been debunked.  His studies were run by a 
> > relative of the person trying to sell the keyboards.

> Except that the debunking of dvorak has mostly been debunked.

> http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/dissent.html

I'll have to check this out.  And being Friday (I'm right about it this 
time, aren't I? :), we can expect a followup to the effect that, "those 
who debunked the debunkers, have been debunked" . . .

> And, btw, even if you don't believe that web page, I'll bet that many
> ergonomics folks would still agree with the statement that two hands are
> better than one.

I'll believe the generalization that two hands are better than one, 
yes.  And distanced fingers are better than close ones--with the 
control key where God meant it to be (to the left of the A on qwerty, 
and teh left of Q on awerty), control-F is much better than control-A.  
With the modern "control key in exile boards," it becomes necessary to 
use the other hand.  Even so, I had to see a physician after using 
emacs on such a keyboard for an extended period. [He told me he could 
authorize physical therapy, but would save me the trip.  The advice was 
to put rubber bands to hold my two smallest fingers, and stretch 
against the rubber bands.  Fortunately, soon thereafter, a small piece 
of plastic appeared on my desk, which looked a lot like what the 
mechanical toggle in a mac capslock key would, I'm sure.  I don't know 
for certain, as *I*'d never open up university equipment and remove 
such a piece :)  It must have fallen out . . . with the control key in 
the proper place, and the use of vi rather than emacs, the strain went 
away.]


> > I've also used vi on a number of occasions to edit lyx files (and emacs 
> > a couple of times, too--I still haven't figured out how to include line 
> > breaks in vi search/replace . . .)

> C-v C-m

> In general, you can use ^V to quote unquotables, like Esc. I think in Vim,
> the ^V'ing is a bit more user friendly, but IIRC, it works just fine in
> vanilla vi.


Ah, thanks.  I thought  that that wasn't allowed in regexps, and so 
hadn't tried . . .

hawk

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