Re: This year's meeting

2004-04-27 Thread Asger Kunuk Ottar Alstrup
I probably have to miss this year's meeting, now that Elias is in the picture. He will be older next year, and I've never been to Poland, so that sounds more realistic for me. Regards, Asger

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:13:07AM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote: > >> I believe the complete unicode transition will be a very big step, and can only >> be done if a good number of developers really want it. I am new with lyx > | We ALL really want it :

Re: This year's meeting

2004-04-27 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 04:48:13PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes spake thusly: > But if everybody else is all for Chemnitz, then I am all for Chemnitz > too ;) Depends on cheap flights/land travel too. In that sense I suppose Chemnitz is easier. > Concerning the disponibilities, it would be some

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:13:07AM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote: > I believe the complete unicode transition will be a very big step, and can only > be done if a good number of developers really want it. I am new with lyx We ALL really want it :) > development and I didn't produce anything r

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Andreas Klostermann
John Levon movementarian.org> writes: > It's not quite a simple a job as you suggest. Yet it's probably not > /too/ difficult either. Well, it was just a question. It's not neccessary to do anything about it. A simple locale to UTF8 conversion for sake of calling pango is all it needs, if at all.

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 07:16:25PM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote: > The big benefit of UTF 8 is that you can use it for everything. No need to > switch or determine a special encoding. Another big benefit is that it keeps The encoding of LyX files is a small part of the problem. We also need t

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Andreas Klostermann
Angus Leeming lyx.org> writes: > > But does Pango require the use of Unicode? LyX isn't there yet. > I did some stuff using gtk and pango, and never worried about that. Neither in the editor, nor in a glade file or wherever. The only thing is that I needed to make my xml files utf8 encoded sin

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:44, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Ok, I think that I have a solution for that also, make the pipe > > template return a file like object to be read. > > > > What does it means $IN and $OUT in the next function? > > Read the blurb at the top of pipes.py ;-) Actually I h

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Andre Poenitz wrote: >> I'd buy you a beer, if only you touched the stuff ;-) > I suppose you should give him a choice of beer or cucumber juice... Nah! That'd be pandering to bad habits... -- Angus

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 02:04:41PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > I'd buy you a beer, if only you touched the stuff ;-) I suppose you should give him a choice of beer or cucumber juice... Andre'

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:13:12AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > Georg Baum wrote: > >> for arg in $@ > > > > This needs to be: > > > > for arg in "@" > > That's "$@" ? Yes. > > > as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same > > wrong result even if the input was correc

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Angus Leeming wrote: > The moral of the story is that this works: > > CONFIGURE="../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC} > --enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix > --with-included-gettext" > > echo ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}" > cd ${BUILDDIR} > ${CONFIGURE} "--with-fr

Re: LyX Developer Conference 2005 -- maybe in Poland??

2004-04-27 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Kuba Ober wrote: > This is all highly unofficial and can be considered hearsay: > > It'd be doable in PoznaÅ, Poland. What'd ya think? > > Cheers, Kuba Ober Cheers indeed! Super methinks. Alfredo

Re: GTK Port still alive?

2004-04-27 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Andreas Klostermann wrote: > This is an xforms problem isn't it? But it works with the xforms frontend. I suspect that it has something to do with the tabs resizing method (and the font request), but this might be completely wrong. Regards, Jürgen > greetings, > Andreas

Re: GTK Port still alive?

2004-04-27 Thread Andreas Klostermann
Juergen Spitzmueller t-online.de> writes: > Redraw screen > BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) id: 0 [snip] > #9 0x40c6ed31 in _XF86BigfontQueryFont () >from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > #10 0x40c6e45a in XLoadQueryFont () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > #11 0x40a6ed03 in fl_t

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Georg Baum
Andreas Klostermann wrote: > So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts? Not at all, and I am a bit surprised that you understood it like that. I just wanted to make you aware of the old arguments and was too lazy to repeat them. IIRC Huang Ying wanted to change to pango too, so the

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Andreas Klostermann wrote: > So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts? [...snip...] > Sorry to be a bit harsh. I think Georg was providing you with information that might be useful to you. I didn't read his letter as being rude, so don't think you need feel irritated by it... Hu

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos wrote: > You are killing me, first you take great pains to make sure that > we use secure temporary files and then you use pipes. Until > python 2.3 that module also used mktemp I would jump from > a cliff if I had one near... ;-) > > Ok, I think that I have a solution f

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 03:27:39PM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote: > So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts? > Obviously the GTK version cannot proccess non-English characters. This is a You're making an assumption that the only way to fix the GTK frontend bug is to use Pango

Re: This year's meeting

2004-04-27 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:48, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: [...] Me too, even the schedule is almost the same. :-) -- José Abílio LyX and docbook, a perfect match. :-)

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Andreas Klostermann
Georg Baum post.rwth-aachen.de> writes: > > Andreas Klostermann wrote: > > > So it looks as if the invocation of XftTextExtents32() fails for some > > reason. In GTK that's also not the way you should do font metrics... > > Actually you should use Pango, since this is the GTK font magician. > >

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:04, Angus Leeming wrote: > Jose' Matos wrote: > >> What happens for users of Python < 2.0? They continue to use > >> mktemp? > > > > I am afraid so. > > > > For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for > > those users. Finally I got the one attach

Re: LyX Developer Conference 2005 -- maybe in Poland??

2004-04-27 Thread Kuba Ober
This is all highly unofficial and can be considered hearsay: It'd be doable in PoznaÅ, Poland. What'd ya think? Cheers, Kuba Ober

Re: LyX Developer Conference 2005 -- maybe in Poland??

2004-04-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Kuba" == Kuba Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kuba> On Thursday 22 April 2004 10:09 am, you wrote: >> You mean that you propose to organize the next decelopers' meeting >> in Poland? Nice of you ;) Kuba> With my schedule being up in the air for the next month, we're Kuba> not even talkin

Re: This year's meeting

2004-04-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 09:35:34PM +0200, Andre Poenitz spake Martin> thusly: >> Is anybody out there planning anything specific? Martin> What about Helsinki (more precisely Espoo)? That would be a very nice idea indeed. I am a

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Georg Baum
Andreas Klostermann wrote: > So it looks as if the invocation of XftTextExtents32() fails for some > reason. In GTK that's also not the way you should do font metrics... > Actually you should use Pango, since this is the GTK font magician. There has been a discussion about using pango. See http:/

LyX Developer Conference 2005 -- maybe in Poland??

2004-04-27 Thread Kuba Ober
On Thursday 22 April 2004 10:09 am, you wrote: > > "Kuba" == Kuba Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Kuba> But -- never say never. You never know :) > > Kuba> Well, next summer I'll be (likely) in Poland, so maybe if you > Kuba> feel like going there the beer is even better! > > You mean that

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos wrote: >> What happens for users of Python < 2.0? They continue to use >> mktemp? > > I am afraid so. > > For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for > those users. Finally I got the one attached. ;-) Jose, you've just fallen into the trap of doing my work fo

Re: Fix previewing using dvips->gs->pnmcrop

2004-04-27 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 26 April 2004 15:16, Angus Leeming wrote: > > What happens for users of Python < 2.0? They continue to use mktemp? I am afraid so. For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for those users. Finally I got the one attached. So I will use our TempFile for python <

Re: The Umlaut Crash (XFT Gurus out there?)

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Andreas Klostermann wrote: > What I've been doing yesterday was trying to fix Lyx when pressing > German special characters... Kind of annoys me as a native German > writer ;) > > To make it short, I think the problem stems from the Xft font > metrics... Whenever I press "ü" for example, I get a s

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Alfredo Braunstein wrote: > bash dont do variable substitution inside '', but it does inside "". Sure. That's true of all sh-shells. csh too for that matter. > I don't know if this applies here though. Gee I barely know what are > we talkning about. ;-) Shells are easy, except when they aren't.

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Georg Baum wrote: > From the bash manpage, section "Special Parameters": > > @ Expands to the positional parameters, starting from one. > When the expansion occurs within double quotes, each parameter > expands to a separate > word. That is, "$@" is equivalent to "$1" "$2" ... When there ar

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Angus Leeming wrote: > The moral of the story is that this works: > > CONFIGURE="../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC} > --enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix --with-included-gettext" > > echo ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}" > cd ${BUILDDIR} > ${CONFIGURE} "--with-fron

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Georg Baum
Angus Leeming wrote: > Georg Baum wrote: >>> for arg in $@ >> >> This needs to be: >> >> for arg in "@" > > That's "$@" ? Of course, sorry for the confusion. >> as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same >> wrong result even if the input was correct. > > Explanation

A layout engine (for xforms)

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Attached is a generic layout engine for rectangular boxes that I think should be used by the xforms frontend to lay out the main LyX window. I think that this is the necessary first step to enabling the xforms frontend to display multiple, dynamically-visible toolbars The code in Layout.[Ch] draws

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
The moral of the story is that this works: CONFIGURE="../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC} --enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix --with-included-gettext" echo ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}" cd ${BUILDDIR} ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}" But putting the '-

Re: 'Old' lyx-devel archive is dead?

2004-04-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> It seems like the older mail archives have died: Old lyx-devl Angus> archive: Angus> http://www.via.ecp.fr/lyx/archive/ Not Found The requested URL Angus> /lyx/archive/ was not found on this server. I have sent a message to them a

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Georg Baum wrote: >> for arg in $@ > > This needs to be: > > for arg in "@" That's "$@" ? > as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same > wrong result even if the input was correct. Explanation please. -- Angus

Re: Problems with a wrapper for configure

2004-04-27 Thread Georg Baum
Angus Leeming wrote: > From the mailer. Attached is the test code I've used. 'conftest.sh' > invokes a dummy 'configure' that just prints out the args: > > $ sh conftest.sh > ./configure --with-frontend='xforms qt gtk' > arg is "--with-frontend='xforms" > arg is "qt" > arg is "gtk'" I get the sa