comments on 1.0.2

1999-06-01 Thread Anonymous
Not having tried LyX in at least three years, I just downloaded and compiled version 1.0.2. Personally, I'm firmly committed to regular LaTeX, but I was looking for something that might tempt my wife and 13-year-old daughter away from MS word, and hence minimize the rebooting requirements for the

Why I've been quiet the last two weeks...

1999-06-01 Thread Allan Rae
Hi, You've probably noticed my absence from the list (then again maybe not) I'm still around although trying very hard to finish my PhD and more importantly get my back fixed up. I stuffed one of the disks in my lower back two weeks ago and haven't been very mobile since. Which leads me to re

Re: New..., New from template...

1999-06-01 Thread Allan Rae
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Andrej Vodopivec (158-2353) wrote: > Hi, > > I find the the operation of the file menu very strange. If I start lyx from > ~/text/lyx I expect New... to list the contents of the current directory in the > file menu but it shows the contents of my login dir. If I start with N

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen
> We should be very restrictive on what we call a bug at this point, the > '\n' that Jean-Marc added is obvious, changing _any_ part of the > protocol is not. Well, I consider the change a bug-fix. The protocol is after all broken, and should be fixed. Also, it is a safe change. The two main ex

Re: Building 1.1 on OS/2

1999-06-01 Thread Shigeru Miyata
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjnes) wrote: > So are you able to compile LyX 1.1. now? Yes, and I now realize that path handling routines must be overhauled. And it is indeed a good opportunity. Regards, SMiyata

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen
> bla bla safe change bla bla... how many times have we said that made > the fix and then we discovers bugs because of it? Many times. Also, many times, good things have come. We make mistakes from time to time. But that should not stop us from making changes, IMO. If we are too afraid to cha

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Asger Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Also, it is a safe change. The two main existing LyX-server applications are | unaffected, and we have the perspective of getting many more LyX server | applications with a Perl module. bla bla safe change bla bla... how many times have we s

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Asger Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [line length Asger...] | I understand that 1.0.3 is important because 1.0.2 is bugged. So release 1.0.3 | now as it is, and we'll have more time to consider the lyx-server-stuff for | 1.0.4 when we have the patch. 1.0.4 will require a long de

Re: did anyone keep my mailmerge code?

1999-06-01 Thread Richard E. Hawkins
Asger added, > You can check the mailing list archive. i couldn't find it there, but i seem to have a flaky connection there (and many other places, due to a sporadic naimserver). It should be an include named "mmtar.981102.tgz.ue", with the date of sending included. But i got no hits :( T

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 1 Jun 1999, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | > I must say that I am very reluctant to all/any changes to the | > lyxserver code in LyX 1.0.x. | | Unless it is considered a bug fix, right? We should be very restrictive on what we call a bu

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On 1 Jun 1999, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I must say that I am very reluctant to all/any changes to the > lyxserver code in LyX 1.0.x. Unless it is considered a bug fix, right? > I'd much rather see a totally new and thought through lyxserver in > 1.1.x.^^

Re: [comp.text.tex] ANNOUNCE: REVTeX 4 public beta release

1999-06-01 Thread Amir Karger
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:47:52AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > At last for some... > > Perhaps someone should begin finishing up a revtex4.layout? > Takers? Finally! I will work on this when I get back (see below), if Marc Mengel or someone else doesn't beat me to it. The good news

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Too few people have used the server, so any fresh discussion about it is | > useful. Be free to improve it, while that doesn't imply a radical change | > of protocol for LyX 1.0.x. | > | > Alejandro | > | | Ok, I'll give it a try! | cheers, |

Re: VNC X Server and LyX on a WinNT

1999-06-01 Thread Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan
> "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kayvan> I just packaged it in RPM. You can grab the updated RPM and Kayvan> SRPM files from my ftp server: Kayvan> ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx Jean-Marc> Kayvan, Jean-Marc> What verison of rpm did you use for this rpm? Ve

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
> > Ok, I just volunteered to change the server code... but I do not know > > what is best to do now. I suppose changing the protocol now would break > > Barracuda... I can't find mentions to lyx in the barracuda 1.0.3 src > > though... is it in a development version? > > It's in a patch apparen

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Stefano Ghirlanda wrote: > Ok, I just volunteered to change the server code... but I do not know > what is best to do now. I suppose changing the protocol now would break > Barracuda... I can't find mentions to lyx in the barracuda 1.0.3 src > though... is it in a development

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
> On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Stefano Ghirlanda wrote: > > > thanks, I have looked into these. However, it *seems* to me, from a > > cursory inspection in the code, that neither program every reads from > > .lyxpipe.out, they only write requests to the input pipe... changing > > the protocol will not aff

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Stefano Ghirlanda wrote: > thanks, I have looked into these. However, it *seems* to me, from a > cursory inspection in the code, that neither program every reads from > .lyxpipe.out, they only write requests to the input pipe... changing > the protocol will not affect these tw

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
Hi everyone, > Don't put too much credit to the documentation :-) > I know it might have bugs, because I rewrote most of it when I cleaned up the > LyX server, and before I did that, the documentation for sure had lots of bugs. > ;-) > > But, if gBib and the tclBib tool does not rely on the pi

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen
> What I gathered upon first reading of the Lyx Server chapter in the > customization docs was indeed that a message was always issued to notify > clients. From that document: > > > "The answer from LyX will arrive in the output pipe a

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> What do you think? Lars> I think no. Let's work on making a really good lyxserver in 1.1. Lars> instead of muddling on with the limited server in 1.0. It just means rem

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | What do you think? I think no. Let's work on making a really good lyxserver in 1.1. instead of muddling on with the limited server in 1.0. Lgb

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Stephan Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Using a socket is a very elegant solution, but you have to | create a robust and reliable security scheme too. LyX tends | to modify files :) and there is a real security hole if the | running LyX-Server is open to the whole world to assist in | modifyin

Re: lyx2latex??

1999-06-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael J Van Der Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Hi.. I'm not on the list so you'll need to reply to me. How Michael> hard would it be to whack together a Unix-like command to Michael> convert a LyX file to a LaTeX file non-interactively? I'm Michael> working in a

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
Hi again, > Asger> You could do a hack: Send a command to LyX that has no ill > Asger> side-effects, but returns something (like where the cursor is), > Asger> and if you get the result immediately, you know that the > Asger> previous command succeeded. Actually, this trick could spare > Asger>

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
Hi again, > > This would be perfectly ok for me. BTW, since you speak of backward > > compatibility, I assume that people have written other lyx clients (apart > > from servermonitor.c in the lyx sources). I would like very much to see > > the code of some of them so I can improve my code, e.g. w

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Otherwise, I could simply conform to what the lyxserver does now, >> i.e. not writing anything in the out pipe if a command that returns >> no data succeeds. In this case, I do not fully understand how to >> check wheter a comm

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen
> This would be perfectly ok for me. BTW, since you speak of backward > compatibility, I assume that people have written other lyx clients (apart > from servermonitor.c in the lyx sources). I would like very much to see > the code of some of them so I can improve my code, e.g. when it comes to > e

Re: VNC X Server and LyX on a WinNT

1999-06-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Kayvan" == Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kayvan> I just packaged it in RPM. You can grab the updated RPM and Kayvan> SRPM files from my ftp server: Kayvan> ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx Kayvan, What verison of rpm did you use for this rpm? Is this the libforms li

Re: lyxserver bug (maybe) and thoughts

1999-06-01 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
Hi, On Mon, 31 May 1999, Asger Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > Concerning the thought part below, I just reproduced it so that others > > can comment on it. Personnally, I agree that some message should be > > returned on success, but there may be some applications which rely on > > the fact that not

Re: VNC X Server and LyX on a WinNT

1999-06-01 Thread Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan
> "Christopher" == Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christopher> Have you got the xserver(s) and clients to behave properly? Yup. Christopher> Does the vncserver start up correctly and the viewer show Christopher> the xserver window? Yup. Christopher> In order to get VNC to

Re: VNC X Server and LyX on a WinNT

1999-06-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan wrote: > > "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jean-Marc> This one is what happens when xforms tries to display a > Jean-Marc> message on a glibc2.1 based system. Get the updated xforms > Jean-Marc> distribution for

Re: VNC X Server and LyX on a WinNT

1999-06-01 Thread Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan
> "Asger" == Asger Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I also tried LyX on Solaris 2.6 with the vnc client on NT: >> >> no core dump here but the following message with the VNC server: >> "In flvisual.c[217]: Can't find an appropriate visual" >> LyX does not start. Asger> I can r

Re: VNC X Server and LyX on a WinNT

1999-06-01 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen
> This same message greets me when I say "lyx -Mono" The Mono switch is not of any use here. The switch is -depth or -visual, AFAIR. Or, as I wrote, try the "vncserver -depth 16" trick. Greets, Asger